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[ASL8] Grand Finals - Flash vs Snow - Page 15

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Kommander
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines4950 Posts
September 01 2019 09:56 GMT
#281
On September 01 2019 18:54 letian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2019 18:51 asel wrote:
How was this win even possible?

First Flash scouts a hidden nexus and understands that it is 3 base carriers. Prepares for the timing push just before the carrier and interceptor count becomes high. He did it many times against other tosses.


Tastosis kinda missed how Flash didn't panic when he scouted the hidden base. I don't know if they were just doing it for hype's sake, but Flash didn't panic at all and responded perfectly. He even scanned 3 base carriers to confirm. Once he did, that was pretty much GG for Snow.
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4353 Posts
September 01 2019 09:56 GMT
#282
Well Snow talks a little bit more and seems funnier….the ASL girl seems entertained.
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3019 Posts
September 01 2019 09:56 GMT
#283
Oof, tough. Snow made a lot of mistakes. But a really small one that cost him a lot was not killing the eggs on his ramp when he had time to do so earlier in the game. I think that cost him a bunch of Dragoons as he was trying to retreat.

It's a minor detail, but when you set up a game so that the *only* option for your opponent is a push, it's the kind of detail you'd expect such a smart player like Snow to have taken care of.

Snow would have won if he'd just managed to kill the first push even after losing his entire main. Terran was about to drop down to 1 base because of the low resource counts at the expansions. Snow's going to regret this one for a long time.
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
September 01 2019 09:57 GMT
#284
On September 01 2019 18:56 letian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2019 18:54 Alejandrisha wrote:
On September 01 2019 18:53 johanes wrote:
On September 01 2019 18:52 KobraKay wrote:
On September 01 2019 18:50 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Poll: Recommend Flash vs Snow Game 3?

Yes (38)
 
81%

No (8)
 
17%

If you have time (1)
 
2%

47 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Flash vs Snow Game 3?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time



"No" ? Come on….that was fun. It was helpful as well. Too late to face P with eco lead and carriers? Kill him right away while Carriers are still making.


Maybe Rain is not so bad? o.O

the problem is, every terran knows this, but Flash can actually make it work

flash made rain look like a 1600 player

Don't forget that Rain played worse than Snow today.

oh i won't. i just recently watched rain vs flash again just to remind myself how to not play vs terran
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KamMoye
Profile Joined December 2010
United States721 Posts
September 01 2019 09:58 GMT
#285
Flash quitting is good for the scene if he's literally ~90% to win any series
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4179 Posts
September 01 2019 09:58 GMT
#286
On September 01 2019 18:56 darktreb wrote:
Oof, tough. Snow made a lot of mistakes. But a really small one that cost him a lot was not killing the eggs on his ramp when he had time to do so earlier in the game. I think that cost him a bunch of Dragoons as he was trying to retreat.

It's a minor detail, but when you set up a game so that the *only* option for your opponent is a push, it's the kind of detail you'd expect such a smart player like Snow to have taken care of.

Snow would have won if he'd just managed to kill the first push even after losing his entire main. Terran was about to drop down to 1 base because of the low resource counts at the expansions. Snow's going to regret this one for a long time.


Actually not killing the eggs might have been a good move because it's so hard to move tanks up a ramp.
VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4408 Posts
September 01 2019 09:58 GMT
#287
On September 01 2019 18:54 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:
If you are Rain, you watch this and say "see i told you so"
If you are Last, you watch this and say "how the fuck???"

Hehe yeah
All other Terrans are realizing how much they could potentially improve their game.
You can watch Last, he's streaming himself watching the finals, he's mostly like 'ahhh...' 'ohhhh....' hehe, all of them are. Bisu's the same. Flash is on another level and that's 100% clear to everyone. When he's not playing anymore, the next 'strongest' players will always wonder how strong they really are compared to current Flash.
Every fan of Starcraft is a fan of Lim Yo Hwan by association
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
September 01 2019 09:58 GMT
#288
On September 01 2019 18:58 KamMoye wrote:
Flash quitting is good for the scene if he's literally ~90% to win any series

yeah but when flash is gone who cares who wins if they don't have to go against this monster man machine god jesus?
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letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
September 01 2019 09:59 GMT
#289
On September 01 2019 18:56 darktreb wrote:
Oof, tough. Snow made a lot of mistakes. But a really small one that cost him a lot was not killing the eggs on his ramp when he had time to do so earlier in the game. I think that cost him a bunch of Dragoons as he was trying to retreat.

It's a minor detail, but when you set up a game so that the *only* option for your opponent is a push, it's the kind of detail you'd expect such a smart player like Snow to have taken care of.

Snow would have won if he'd just managed to kill the first push even after losing his entire main. Terran was about to drop down to 1 base because of the low resource counts at the expansions. Snow's going to regret this one for a long time.

This. But it would barely matter, he lost like 4-5 there but you know, it's easy to speculate.
Highgamer
Profile Joined October 2015
1470 Posts
September 01 2019 09:59 GMT
#290
This series at least, Snow just doesn't look like he is thinking next steps in the lategame... You should know that Terran will move out like this against carriers, so no plan to stall the attack except a few goons?
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
September 01 2019 10:00 GMT
#291
heyyyyyyyy we;re gonna do all of our ads and giveaways now lol wassap
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Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
September 01 2019 10:00 GMT
#292
On September 01 2019 18:59 Highgamer wrote:
This series at least, Snow just doesn't look like he is thinking next steps in the lategame... You should know that Terran will move out like this against carriers, so no plan to stall the attack except a few goons?

yeah. very uninspiring lategame from snow :/
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LV_426
Profile Joined December 2009
Poland436 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-01 10:01:29
September 01 2019 10:01 GMT
#293
after that start, he did everything he could to lose this game :<
making 3 stargates without ground army, i guess he fells so much worse than Flash, that he has to gamble like that
Highgamer
Profile Joined October 2015
1470 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-01 10:02:38
September 01 2019 10:01 GMT
#294
"We have to fill more time, pull that Sharp-guy from the progamers' seats and give him a mic."

edit: Larva: "If he gets to talk, I want to talk too, cue me up next."
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
September 01 2019 10:01 GMT
#295
sharp trying not to look at her dress
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tanngard
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway1325 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-01 10:02:22
September 01 2019 10:02 GMT
#296
As a longtime Snow fan, this is painful to watch.

But Snow is #1 in my heart always
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4353 Posts
September 01 2019 10:02 GMT
#297
Well they prepared, they invited pros to have mid series interviews and all that….but it seems Flash does not want people to go home very late.
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
Wonk
Profile Joined March 2017
546 Posts
September 01 2019 10:02 GMT
#298
On September 01 2019 18:56 darktreb wrote:
Oof, tough. Snow made a lot of mistakes. But a really small one that cost him a lot was not killing the eggs on his ramp when he had time to do so earlier in the game. I think that cost him a bunch of Dragoons as he was trying to retreat.

It's a minor detail, but when you set up a game so that the *only* option for your opponent is a push, it's the kind of detail you'd expect such a smart player like Snow to have taken care of.

Snow would have won if he'd just managed to kill the first push even after losing his entire main. Terran was about to drop down to 1 base because of the low resource counts at the expansions. Snow's going to regret this one for a long time.


Whether or though those eggs being left up hurt flash's push or snow's retreat is difficult to call until it happens. If he'd killed them and the tanks had rolled up into his base and he'd lost anyway people would be saying he shouldn't have killed them
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51637 Posts
September 01 2019 10:02 GMT
#299
kevin and mr chae in the background :3
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Kommander
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines4950 Posts
September 01 2019 10:03 GMT
#300
Larva looking like the Korean Conor McGregor lol
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