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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50602 Posts
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BLinD-RawR
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On July 30 2019 15:47 BLinD-RawR wrote: Did it via mobile, may have some mistakes. Yeah, banner says Ro24, for example. That said, these should be last officials played by Soulkey before military service, right? | ||
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Nematocyst
United States164 Posts
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BulgarianToss
Bulgaria490 Posts
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SCC-Faust
United States3736 Posts
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TaardadAiel
Bulgaria750 Posts
On July 30 2019 17:13 SCC-Faust wrote: Sacsri coming out first. This is assuming soulkey defeats Flash, I suppose? | ||
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Ej_
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Szinkler
Hungary394 Posts
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Jackal03
Brazil7469 Posts
gogogo Flash, time to take another ASL. With effort in service, it's your time again | ||
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VioleTAK
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AttackZerg
United States7465 Posts
Really sad that we are going to lose another player to the military. I hope Soulkey has a safe tour of duty. Sucks he can't finish the tournament, even if he wins today. Excited to see Flash again. (Hi all you craft loving hues of man) | ||
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VioleTAK
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KamMoye
United States721 Posts
Omg VioleTAK sighting. Horang2 is one of my favorite players. I believe. But he disappoints a lot. Especially vZ. We'll see. | ||
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GreasedUpDeafGuy
United States398 Posts
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VioleTAK
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AttackZerg
United States7465 Posts
I like the burrow play, but he wasn't looking even if he lost that battle. | ||
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nojok
France15845 Posts
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GTR
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Ziggy
South Korea2105 Posts
On July 30 2019 19:33 GTR wrote: chocolate and pocari sweat sounds like a dangerous mix the breakfast of gods | ||
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Sorusaba
294 Posts
Sorry if this is mentioned somewhere very obvious and I totally missed it | ||
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rednusa
651 Posts
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Jackal03
Brazil7469 Posts
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Sorusaba
294 Posts
At one point SK even took his hand off the keyboard to scratch his cheek | ||
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Jackal03
Brazil7469 Posts
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Dante08
Singapore4139 Posts
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Jackal03
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Dante08
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Jackal03
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Jackal03
Brazil7469 Posts
awesome game | ||
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Zariel
Australia1285 Posts
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Greg_J
China4409 Posts
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Wonk
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AttackZerg
United States7465 Posts
Infact I think I hate it. | ||
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Greg_J
China4409 Posts
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Jackal03
Brazil7469 Posts
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KarlHungus1908
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Jackal03
Brazil7469 Posts
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Dante08
Singapore4139 Posts
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TornadoSteve
1104 Posts
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AttackZerg
United States7465 Posts
Nobody is following the rules of versus mech..... grrrrrr day9- do a podcast on mech please. Everyone forgot. | ||
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nojok
France15845 Posts
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AttackZerg
United States7465 Posts
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Jackal03
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IRseriousCat-
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KobraKay
Portugal4233 Posts
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Dante08
Singapore4139 Posts
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FitHovercraft1
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Dante08
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Zariel
Australia1285 Posts
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Bonyth
Poland593 Posts
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Starecat
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Wonk
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Starecat
940 Posts
On July 30 2019 20:41 FitHovercraft1 wrote: Wasn't floating-buildings-over-stuff-so-it-can't-be-clicked banned by KESPA? Same with putting observers on top of missle turrets Never, the Turret-observer is a unfair glitch floating over to make impossible to single target is just BW being well an old game, the units still can die but you will need to A-Move. | ||
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Ziggy
South Korea2105 Posts
On July 30 2019 20:41 FitHovercraft1 wrote: Wasn't floating-buildings-over-stuff-so-it-can't-be-clicked banned by KESPA? Same with putting observers on top of missle turrets nope also KeSPA ain't really part of sc anymore | ||
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ggsimida
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26225 Posts
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Jackal03
Brazil7469 Posts
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ggsimida
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Greg_J
China4409 Posts
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Dante08
Singapore4139 Posts
On July 30 2019 20:52 Wombat_NI wrote: Flash is pretty good at this game, were SK and Sacsri just playing badly against this style of mech he’s doing these days or what? It's just Flash, Sascri and Soulkey actually played really well I feel. | ||
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Jackal03
Brazil7469 Posts
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Bonyth
Poland593 Posts
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Dante08
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ggsimida
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Wonk
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Terrorbladder
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26225 Posts
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Ziggy
South Korea2105 Posts
On July 30 2019 21:22 Wombat_NI wrote: Is Horang actually a LoL player that learned BW or a BW player who plays a lot of LoL? the latter | ||
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FlopTurnReaver
Switzerland1980 Posts
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Jackal03
Brazil7469 Posts
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Terrorbladder
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AttackZerg
United States7465 Posts
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TornadoSteve
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Terrorbladder
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Jackal03
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Jackal03
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Wonk
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IRseriousCat-
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Jackal03
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VioleTAK
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Wonk
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RowdierBob
Australia13295 Posts
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VioleTAK
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itsdaniel
Austria334 Posts
On July 30 2019 22:01 VioleTAK wrote: Flash seems disappointed in his stream as well... is he living next to the studio? hes quick to get home... | ||
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Dante08
Singapore4139 Posts
On July 30 2019 21:58 VioleTAK wrote: Was really hoping for Flash and Rain on opposite sides... Flash Rain won't be as good as some people think. Rain's PvT is a lot weaker than most people give him credit for and he lost to Last and Sharp who are way behind Flash is TvP. Flash vs Snow would be a much better matchup. | ||
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Frudgey
Canada3367 Posts
Either way looking forward to watching some Flash games. Sounds like he was in good form this time. | ||
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Terrorbladder
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TornadoSteve
1104 Posts
Flash vs Rain Thats a solid final 4 imo | ||
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lepape
Canada557 Posts
TvT finals would be a disapointment though, no player comes even close against Flash in that matchup. | ||
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FlopTurnReaver
Switzerland1980 Posts
On July 30 2019 22:00 RowdierBob wrote: That Flash mech build vs Zerg is brutal. Not sure how you beat it but those muta openings are not a good idea it seems. I'd still like to see a Zerg going for early Hydras vs this (apart from ZeLot's failed rush). | ||
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nikolaus8844
111 Posts
 .. which would really be better suited for Horang2. Jeeeeeeez.. is it really that hard to build a control group of +1 sairs and keep them together so you don't lose air-control and thus get wrecked pretty much in exactly the same way  At least SK got spanked rather well, that made up for some of the mundane nature of the games today. | ||
BisuDagger
Bisutopia19300 Posts
On July 30 2019 23:39 lepape wrote: Snow vs Flash in ASL5 quarterfinals was one of the best series I've seen, let's hope we'll get a Snow vs Flash finals. TvT finals would be a disapointment though, no player comes even close against Flash in that matchup. That'd be a great finals because I feel like ASL5 deserved to go to him. Rain is a god of PvP, but I don't think he was good enough at that time to beat Flash. Remember that was the first time in like 11 years that Flash lost a boX to a protoss player. Snow played a perfect series versus him in ASL5, but I'm not sure lighting will strike twice. | ||
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Ideas
United States8148 Posts
I don't get why soulkey went for triple sunken instead of hydras for his defense against vultures vs flash. I guess it's more gas heavy... but hydras are so much better vs vulture drops and he gets a 3rd gas for free. He still played well but just got too far behind from that drop. It seems like queens before hive vs mech is a lot more popular in the pro scene right now, but I think I've only seen it fail in this ASL haha. This Ro8 is going to be sick! Can't wait for Action vs Light finals!  But seriously a snow/action and flash/rain semis with snow vs flash finals would make this an amazing ASL. Honestly any combination of these 8 moving forward would be fantastic. | ||
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BlackJack
United States10574 Posts
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QOGQOG
834 Posts
On July 30 2019 22:41 Dante08 wrote: Flash Rain won't be as good as some people think. Rain's PvT is a lot weaker than most people give him credit for and he lost to Last and Sharp who are way behind Flash is TvP. Flash vs Snow would be a much better matchup. Absolutely agree, I'm really hoping that we get Snow/Flash rematch for the final. I feel like people (including Tastosis) are forgetting that Rain's not nearly as good at matches that aren't PvP. | ||
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outscar
2832 Posts
On July 30 2019 21:15 ggsimida wrote: thats the LoL player that somehow won the wild card seed wtf JD was playing LoL lately and we saw what happened: 0-6 out from KSL, out on ro24 from ASL. FlaSh showed his god performance 100% today, loved how he killed early game eco of zergs with such little vulture runbies. Aaaand he gets free win. vs. Light plus lower bracket seems easier for him so free ticket for finals. | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On July 30 2019 23:39 lepape wrote: Snow vs Flash in ASL5 quarterfinals was one of the best series I've seen, let's hope we'll get a Snow vs Flash finals. TvT finals would be a disapointment though, no player comes even close against Flash in that matchup. Flash is not granted to beat Last, actually. Action vs Flash could be good, too, but I would love to see Snow beat Flash 3-2 in the finals. | ||
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FakeFin
Germany392 Posts
On July 31 2019 08:07 Xain0n wrote: Flash is not granted to beat Last, actually. Action vs Flash could be good, too, but I would love to see Snow beat Flash 3-2 in the finals. Finals will be bo7 though, so the chances of Snow beating Flash will be very low | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On July 31 2019 08:19 FakeFin wrote: Finals will be bo7 though, so the chances of Snow beating Flash will be very low Did they change the format? It was bo5 in ASL and bo7 in KSL. | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13295 Posts
On July 31 2019 00:01 FlopTurnReaver wrote: I'd still like to see a Zerg going for early Hydras vs this (apart from ZeLot's failed rush). The early vulture harass seems key. If Flash does any sort of meaningful damage he gets a huge mid and late game advantage he doesn’t let go of. I agree in that I wonder if hydra is a better opening to deal with the harass and then maybe move to muta once the zergs eco is stronger. | ||
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FakeFin
Germany392 Posts
On July 31 2019 08:40 Xain0n wrote: Did they change the format? It was bo5 in ASL and bo7 in KSL. Yes, ASL finals are now also bo7, semifinals are still bo5 | ||
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ShowTheLights
Korea (South)1705 Posts
On July 30 2019 22:41 Dante08 wrote: Flash Rain won't be as good as some people think. Rain's PvT is a lot weaker than most people give him credit for and he lost to Last and Sharp who are way behind Flash is TvP. Flash vs Snow would be a much better matchup. Wtf? You are wrong on so many levels Rain consistantly beats Flash (yes, on ladder + sponsored matches but they haven't met off line) Rain has owned Last's number except for the last time where Rain got EXTREMELY unlucky and LOST 2-3 He owned Sharp pretty easily in his KSL Championship run Rain vs. Flash will be fucking incredible and Rain has a GREAT shot at beating him, Flash even admits this Literally the only thing Rain needs to do to fix his TvP is to put his fucking templars in some shuttles and hes set | ||
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QOGQOG
834 Posts
On August 01 2019 06:02 ShowTheLights wrote: Wtf? You are wrong on so many levels Rain consistantly beats Flash (yes, on ladder + sponsored matches but they haven't met off line) Rain has owned Last's number except for the last time where Rain got EXTREMELY unlucky and LOST 2-3 He owned Sharp pretty easily in his KSL Championship run Rain vs. Flash will be fucking incredible and Rain has a GREAT shot at beating him, Flash even admits this Literally the only thing Rain needs to do to fix his TvP is to put his fucking templars in some shuttles and hes set From what I can decipher on sponbang, Rain has a 5:31 or ~14% win rate against Flash this year, so I'm not sure what you're talking about. Snow more than double his win rate at 11:25/30.5%. Both of them probably have better odds against Flash in a prepared offline tournament than those stats suggest, but Rain's going to have to prepare insanely well to have a "GREAT shot" at beating Flash. | ||
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KamMoye
United States721 Posts
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Nematocyst
United States164 Posts
His last three VODs might be worth a look. | ||
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TaardadAiel
Bulgaria750 Posts
On August 01 2019 14:37 QOGQOG wrote: From what I can decipher on sponbang, Rain has a 5:31 or ~14% win rate against Flash this year, so I'm not sure what you're talking about. Snow more than double his win rate at 11:25/30.5%. Both of them probably have better odds against Flash in a prepared offline tournament than those stats suggest, but Rain's going to have to prepare insanely well to have a "GREAT shot" at beating Flash. I completely agree with this and the stats are correct. Month by month, the Protoss players with the most consistent chance of beating Flash have been Best and Snow, especially considering sample sizes. More recently so possibly more relevant to this particular tournament, Snow has a 2-2 record against him since June, but that's too small a sample size to compare to the 20 games (13-7) Flash has played versus Best or the 33 (24-9) versus Stork in that same timeframe. Rain has lost 7 of the 9 games between the two, not too reassuring but a rather small sample size as well. All of those are on the ASL8 maps. Granted, online stats do not readily translate into probability of winning in an offline best-of series, but still, I'd consider Snow and Best far more dangerous than Rain. | ||
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TornadoSteve
1104 Posts
Not only Best (snow doesnt look affected much) is under performing to say the least, but Flash's game step up to another level. edit: Rain's game also step up in offline matchs, but i do agree that his chances of beating Flash are lower than snow. | ||
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TaardadAiel
Bulgaria750 Posts
Must be really frustrating to root for the guy, he's so awesome on stream. Still, should he EVER reach the elimination phase of the ASL, I'd consider him the most dangerous opposition for any Terran alongside Snow. | ||
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