[ASL8] Ro16 Group C
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BLinD-RawR
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Dazed.
Canada3301 Posts
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QOGQOG
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hoping stork and snow That's the dream. I'm mostly hoping that Snow doesn't choke too hard. | ||
TaardadAiel
Bulgaria750 Posts
Probably gonna be Rain and either Stork or Snow, more likely Stork, I think. :/ | ||
Wonk
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TornadoSteve
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dredredre
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KamMoye
United States721 Posts
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ggsimida
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Qikz
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ex-SKT fighting! | ||
TornadoSteve
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HolydaKing
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Qikz
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GTR
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GTR
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On July 28 2019 19:11 Qikz wrote: Who's the middle guy in the korean cast? chae min-jun/chaester, former sc2 proleague caster at spotv games. really nice guy who would always try to speak english to you lmao edit: artosis is right - rain's fpv right now http://play.afreecatv.com/afstar/216033761 | ||
Incomplete..ReV
Norway598 Posts
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KamMoye
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BLinD-RawR
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ggsimida
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BLinD-RawR
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HolydaKing
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TornadoSteve
775 Posts
wtf | ||
KamMoye
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TornadoSteve
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BLinD-RawR
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BLinD-RawR
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Poll: Recommend Rain vs BeSt Game 2? If you have time (5) Yes (2) No (1) 8 total votes Your vote: Recommend Rain vs BeSt Game 2? don't bet against RainvP | ||
TornadoSteve
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BLinD-RawR
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Jackal03
Brazil7469 Posts
Best vs Stork game is one of the reasons that I think PvP is the worst mirror. | ||
sixfour
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BLinD-RawR
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Jackal03
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Jackal03
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TaardadAiel
Bulgaria750 Posts
poorly. | ||
Jackal03
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Jackal03
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES48984 Posts
Poll: Recommend Stork vs Snow Game 3? No (1) Yes (0) If you have time (0) 1 total votes Your vote: Recommend Stork vs Snow Game 3? | ||
KarlHungus1908
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Wonk
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Wonk
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Ziggy
South Korea2103 Posts
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TaardadAiel
Bulgaria750 Posts
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BLinD-RawR
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Jackal03
Brazil7469 Posts
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ggsimida
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Jackal03
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Ziggy
South Korea2103 Posts
On July 28 2019 21:48 Jackal03 wrote: Hope flash goes on second in group D so we can have a Rain v Flash the seeding for the ro8 hasnt been confirmed yet, theyve done a few different variants in the past iirc | ||
Wonk
546 Posts
Rush, larva, best, Sacsri/horang2 would all make good additions to the ro8 | ||
TaardadAiel
Bulgaria750 Posts
On July 28 2019 21:56 Wonk wrote: Glad that sk's spot isn't wasted regardless. Hope he advances so we get all the 3rd place players back for a shot Rush, larva, best, Sacsri/horang2 would all make good additions to the ro8 Would be a bit strange for the competition in his own group to have a shot at his place. | ||
Pangpootata
1838 Posts
On July 28 2019 22:02 TaardadAiel wrote: Would be a bit strange for the competition in his own group to have a shot at his place. Well, one of them would have advanced if he weren't there. | ||
Wonk
546 Posts
On July 28 2019 22:02 TaardadAiel wrote: Would be a bit strange for the competition in his own group to have a shot at his place. Why not? They have every right to play for his spot as the other 3rd placers | ||
Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
I hope Soulkey advances and successfully delays his military service; if he can't, then Best or Larva as replacements, for sure! | ||
outscar
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N.geNuity
United States5111 Posts
On July 28 2019 19:16 GTR wrote: chae min-jun/chaester, former sc2 proleague caster at spotv games. really nice guy who would always try to speak english to you lmao edit: artosis is right - rain's fpv right now http://play.afreecatv.com/afstar/216033761 the hell, what is this, a game for ants learned today that rain is some psychopath | ||
KamMoye
United States721 Posts
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outscar
2788 Posts
On July 29 2019 02:10 N.geNuity wrote: the hell, what is this, a game for ants learned today that rain is some psychopath I understand him though as player who played on a notebook '15 screen and 20-21 LCD all my life old good 1.16.1 BW. If they gave him 27' inch monitor everything will look hugeass thus his eyes are going to need so much pressure and long distance to move. IIRC correctly Bisu (who had best PvP record, doesn't that say something) used to play on smaller window too (ASL semis) and EffOrt preferred old graphics on ladder/training instead of new ones. | ||
KamMoye
United States721 Posts
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ShowTheLights
Korea (South)1654 Posts
This can't be stated enough So amazing to watch him play Now if only he would fucking put his templars in some Shuttles in PvZ and PvT, he'd be as dominant as Flash | ||
TornadoSteve
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Disregard
China10252 Posts
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ggsimida
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De4ngus
United States6533 Posts
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TornadoSteve
775 Posts
The attack was "failed" because Rain was busy with that scarab when he saw bunch of probes coming back to the main. | ||
De4ngus
United States6533 Posts
On July 29 2019 13:46 TornadoSteve wrote: It was in game 2, and they showed the replay after the commercial break. The attack was "failed" because Rain was busy with that scarab when he saw bunch of probes coming back to the main. Oh okay, I didn't realize they did a replay. That's what I get for watching the VODs and skipping the parts between games. 8] | ||
Turbovolver
Australia2282 Posts
On July 29 2019 01:33 outscar wrote: I fucking love those scarab RNGs, imagine how dull and one sided games would be if one scarab destroyed all mineral line. It's not RNG, scarabs simply fail if they take too long before they blow up. This is why pros will grab all their probes and run them away, despite the fact that it groups them up and creates those moments that look like they're all going to blow up. So long as the scarab takes too long to reach them, it will dud. There's still some "randomness" in whether the scarab gets stuck on buildings, etc, but that as well could be theoretically played around by someone with a good understanding for how they tend to move. Probably matters a lot which probe is targetted too, because I imagine a scarab can get stuck on the "back" probe while trying to reach a "middle" probe in the train. Artosis seems to have finally picked up on this after years of casting haha, he mentioned it in the casting for these games, whereas previously it's always been "oh my god oh my god will it will it... oh no, dud scarab!". | ||
outscar
2788 Posts
On July 29 2019 16:02 Turbovolver wrote: It's not RNG, scarabs simply fail if they take too long before they blow up. This is why pros will grab all their probes and run them away, despite the fact that it groups them up and creates those moments that look like they're all going to blow up. So long as the scarab takes too long to reach them, it will dud. There's still some "randomness" in whether the scarab gets stuck on buildings, etc, but that as well could be theoretically played around by someone with a good understanding for how they tend to move. Probably matters a lot which probe is targetted too, because I imagine a scarab can get stuck on the "back" probe while trying to reach a "middle" probe in the train. Artosis seems to have finally picked up on this after years of casting haha, he mentioned it in the casting for these games, whereas previously it's always been "oh my god oh my god will it will it... oh no, dud scarab!". True, Artosis isn't losing his shit as before. I remember my ears exploded by Tastosis on ASL1 finals when Shuttle was wrecking Sharp's main and natural. Also, BeSt is unlickiest player with glitches working against him. On ASL7 ro16 decider match vs. Mind, terran planted mines to his main, BeSt got obs but his goons glitched and triggered mines, he lost almost all probes thus got eliminated. This all series he was unlucky with his 2 gate center proxy because Rain glitched out contained goon perfectly. Then on his first game vs. SnOw his probes got stuck behind assimilator, what was that, 7-8 probes that were dancing? | ||
TornadoSteve
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KamMoye
United States721 Posts
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TornadoSteve
775 Posts
It seems that he just doesnt have what it takes to step up to the next (and last) level. He just cant. - Doesnt scout the bottom of the map with a probe in 2nd game against snow is non sense. BUT AT LEAST HE DID SCOUTED SNOW'S MAIN WITH 2 FULL SHUTTLES. my god, its frustrating to root for this guy. | ||
kidcrash
United States616 Posts
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QOGQOG
817 Posts
On July 30 2019 02:16 kidcrash wrote: Did you guys notice either artosis or tasteless saying that the next group is "soulkey's last televised pro match"? I knew he was going to the military but people were saying he could delay until end of asl. Is this information confirmed? How will they replace his spot if he advances? I think they said the 3rd place finishers from the ro16 will play for SK's spot (assuming he advances). | ||
BisuDagger
Bisutopia19027 Posts
On July 30 2019 01:35 TornadoSteve wrote: Honestly, its hard to find whats wrong with Best... He has no real weakness and he looks solid in all 3 match up. It seems that he just doesnt have what it takes to step up to the next (and last) level. He just cant. - Doesnt scout the bottom of the map with a probe in 2nd game against snow is non sense. BUT AT LEAST HE DID SCOUTED SNOW'S MAIN WITH 2 FULL SHUTTLES. my god, its frustrating to root for this guy. vs Rain: BeSt threw his advantage versus Rain by sacking his vessel outside the natural of Rain instead of staying at home and guarding his own natural. Tastelss rightfully states BeSt is in the lead -> then he needlessly loses his reaver and shuttle -> Rain jumps ahead in army supply. BeSt just needed defend while building workers and take his natural gas. vs Snow: It's actually odd that BeSt let the ninja expo work in Game 2. Between games it is not uncommon to quickly fast forward through the previous game rep just to see if you missed something. I'm not sure if these days ASL doesn't allow it or if there simply isn't enough time between games, but this is definitely something he should have done. | ||
KamMoye
United States721 Posts
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IntoTheWow
is awesome32244 Posts
On July 29 2019 22:20 outscar wrote: True, Artosis isn't losing his shit as before. I remember my ears exploded by Tastosis on ASL1 finals when Shuttle was wrecking Sharp's main and natural. Also, BeSt is unlickiest player with glitches working against him. On ASL7 ro16 decider match vs. Mind, terran planted mines to his main, BeSt got obs but his goons glitched and triggered mines, he lost almost all probes thus got eliminated. This all series he was unlucky with his 2 gate center proxy because Rain glitched out contained goon perfectly. Then on his first game vs. SnOw his probes got stuck behind assimilator, what was that, 7-8 probes that were dancing? Most of those glitches are not "luck". With the gas glitch Artosis even mentioned, that even though BeSt must have played hundreds of practice games on this map, he decided to change his robo position to one where it glitches. Notice how Protosses always make their walls the same way? It's because that way they are sure which units will fit, and how their probes will drill and connect with run-by zerglings, for example. The same happens with every other building position. BeSt didn't practice that, or decided to put his robot in another position in that game. vs Rain, it's mostly not luck. Rain positioned his probes to drill through his goon. If you overlap units like this, you will eventually get it out (you can try it yourself with goons and probes, but with other units as well, drill-through, stop and click the unit away). Rain could have actually glitched the goon out faster than he did. After glitching the first one out, Rain positioned I think 2? probes in the lower right position of the gate, so the goon would spawn outside of the pylon prision. vs Scarabs, yeah, there's some luck involved, but you will notice how reavers will glitch out less for certain players, cause they know what firing angles work better; or decide to take additional risks, like not landing reavers behind mineral lines, which tend to glitch out more. | ||
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