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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51449 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-27 11:57:49
April 25 2019 04:05 GMT
#1

Korea StarCraft League Season 3


Thursday, Apr 25 10:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)


(Wiki)2019 Korea StarCraft League Season 3


Casters & Hosts


Tasteless | Artosis | RAPiD


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(P)Mini              (Z)Action
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bovienchien
Profile Joined March 2014
Vietnam1152 Posts
April 25 2019 05:21 GMT
#2
My heart:
Mini 0 - 3 Action
ForGG 3 - 0 Soulkey

My head:
Mini 3 - 0 Action
ForGG 0 - 3 Soulkey

So sad but true. It's so easy to guess
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51449 Posts
April 25 2019 05:47 GMT
#3
On April 25 2019 14:21 bovienchien wrote:
My heart:
Mini 0 - 3 Action
ForGG 3 - 0 Soulkey

My head:
Mini 3 - 0 Action
ForGG 0 - 3 Soulkey

So sad but true. It's so easy to guess


nothing has been easy this season lol
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
amasposu
Profile Joined March 2019
18 Posts
April 25 2019 08:58 GMT
#4
I like Action, but Mini should be able to easily crush him.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27361 Posts
April 25 2019 09:03 GMT
#5
I feel suitably silly that I was sitting wondering what time 11am BST meant time wise for where I am.

That aside, hypeeee
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Wohmfg
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom1292 Posts
April 25 2019 09:30 GMT
#6
Eng stream link is broken, this is the URL: https://tl.net/video/streams/StarCraft
BW4Life!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51449 Posts
April 25 2019 10:01 GMT
#7
wow thats a pretty paltry crowd if I've ever seen one, ouch.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
razorsuKe
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2047 Posts
April 25 2019 10:13 GMT
#8
wow Action has a winning record against T and Z but a losing record against P
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razorsuKe
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2047 Posts
April 25 2019 10:16 GMT
#9
cancel?!? weak.
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amasposu
Profile Joined March 2019
18 Posts
April 25 2019 10:17 GMT
#10
Building a shield battery to block the cannon is interesting.
amasposu
Profile Joined March 2019
18 Posts
April 25 2019 10:18 GMT
#11
Still going up to 3 bases.
razorsuKe
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2047 Posts
April 25 2019 10:22 GMT
#12
oh WOW that building block is REALLY bad, I think he should kill off that gate =\
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razorsuKe
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2047 Posts
April 25 2019 10:23 GMT
#13
eeerrr wait wtf, probes aren't actually stuck, it's just 1 and he can use that to clump sairs
I swear I saw 2-3 before o_O
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51449 Posts
April 25 2019 10:27 GMT
#14
Poll: Recommend Action vs Mini Game 1?

Yes (8)
 
100%

No (0)
 
0%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

8 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Action vs Mini Game 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
razorsuKe
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2047 Posts
April 25 2019 10:28 GMT
#15
Mini getting reminded the hard way that hydras stronk.
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siegetank7
Profile Joined April 2019
23 Posts
April 25 2019 10:30 GMT
#16
nice first game from mini. good opening strategy just didn't play the midgame well. would it hurt to get the streams in the live events upper right section a little sooner, they seem to only appear 10-15 minutes after event has already started?
razorsuKe
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2047 Posts
April 25 2019 10:34 GMT
#17
On April 25 2019 19:30 siegetank7 wrote:
nice first game from mini. good opening strategy just didn't play the midgame well. would it hurt to get the streams in the live events upper right section a little sooner, they seem to only appear 10-15 minutes after event has already started?


The event was listed as live right on time, but you are right - the stream link doesn't appear until later.
Gotta check the thread OR, since it's KSL, the link is the easiest thing to remember ever:

twitch.tv/starcraft
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razorsuKe
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2047 Posts
April 25 2019 10:38 GMT
#18
wowwwww Mini was looking so bad in the beginning, how the hell did he get back into this position? O_O damnnnnn... good stuff!
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51449 Posts
April 25 2019 10:41 GMT
#19
Poll: Recommend Action vs Mini Game 2?

Yes (4)
 
80%

If you have time (1)
 
20%

No (0)
 
0%

5 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Action vs Mini Game 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51449 Posts
April 25 2019 10:41 GMT
#20
On April 25 2019 19:38 razorsuKe wrote:
wowwwww Mini was looking so bad in the beginning, how the hell did he get back into this position? O_O damnnnnn... good stuff!


then mini realized hes mini and well....
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
amasposu
Profile Joined March 2019
18 Posts
April 25 2019 10:42 GMT
#21
Trying to rush a low econ zerg like Action is not a good idea.
tanngard
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway1325 Posts
April 25 2019 10:45 GMT
#22
On April 25 2019 19:41 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2019 19:38 razorsuKe wrote:
wowwwww Mini was looking so bad in the beginning, how the hell did he get back into this position? O_O damnnnnn... good stuff!


then mini realized hes mini and well....

What is your point? No one have a higher winrate at pvz than Mini.
amasposu
Profile Joined March 2019
18 Posts
April 25 2019 10:53 GMT
#23
And Mini crushed Effort in ASL7.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51449 Posts
April 25 2019 10:53 GMT
#24
On April 25 2019 19:45 tanngard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2019 19:41 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On April 25 2019 19:38 razorsuKe wrote:
wowwwww Mini was looking so bad in the beginning, how the hell did he get back into this position? O_O damnnnnn... good stuff!


then mini realized hes mini and well....

What is your point? No one have a higher winrate at pvz than Mini.


but he still makes the same mistakes hes always made, over commits every attack.

hes not fixing his core issues, hes just improving his strengths.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
razorsuKe
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2047 Posts
April 25 2019 11:10 GMT
#25
damn, this game looked awesome for Mini and that gigantic push was completely unstoppable. But Action positioned everything perfectly and then the counter on the 3rd suddenly turned this into a crazy game O_O
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razorsuKe
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2047 Posts
April 25 2019 11:11 GMT
#26
ARE YOU KIDDING!?!? Losing the shuttle like that? That was so anti-climatic!!
Even if the game was over, I thought that last push would make things really interesting.
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51449 Posts
April 25 2019 11:11 GMT
#27
Poll: Recommend Action vs Mini Game 3?

Yes (10)
 
100%

No (0)
 
0%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

10 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Action vs Mini Game 3?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
amasposu
Profile Joined March 2019
18 Posts
April 25 2019 11:11 GMT
#28
Oh my god. Spend your resources on a new Nexus, not on scarabs.
oEkY
Profile Joined August 2016
Germany649 Posts
April 25 2019 11:12 GMT
#29
my liquibet losing-streak continues, hip hip hooray
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51449 Posts
April 25 2019 11:14 GMT
#30
On April 25 2019 20:12 oEkY wrote:
my liquibet losing-streak continues, hip hip hooray


considering I break my streak with ample, I've seemed to have started a streak of winning.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27361 Posts
April 25 2019 11:24 GMT
#31
I have closed a lot of holes in my Brood War knowledge over the years so I’m not totally out of the loop vs say a new viewer.

As long as you have a good observer and knowledgable casters, as a viewer I think it’s definitely better to not have the production bar.

I’m not a total BW noob by any means, watching a lot more of it these days. Are Protoss struggling in vZ these days as they seem to lose a lot when I do watch or check results?
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
April 25 2019 11:30 GMT
#32
On April 25 2019 20:24 Wombat_NI wrote:
I have closed a lot of holes in my Brood War knowledge over the years so I’m not totally out of the loop vs say a new viewer.

As long as you have a good observer and knowledgable casters, as a viewer I think it’s definitely better to not have the production bar.

I’m not a total BW noob by any means, watching a lot more of it these days. Are Protoss struggling in vZ these days as they seem to lose a lot when I do watch or check results?

1. A lot of zergs around

2. Bisu and Shuttle in the army :/
WriterReV hwaiting!
razorsuKe
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2047 Posts
April 25 2019 11:33 GMT
#33
wow this is actually my first time seeing forgg since the kespa days, he is looking built!
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M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4176 Posts
April 25 2019 11:34 GMT
#34
On April 25 2019 20:24 Wombat_NI wrote:
I have closed a lot of holes in my Brood War knowledge over the years so I’m not totally out of the loop vs say a new viewer.

As long as you have a good observer and knowledgable casters, as a viewer I think it’s definitely better to not have the production bar.

I’m not a total BW noob by any means, watching a lot more of it these days. Are Protoss struggling in vZ these days as they seem to lose a lot when I do watch or check results?

yeah protoss usually struggles vs zergs since forever. Not sure we can claim that the match is imbalanced because protoss have everything necessary to beat zerg, but somehow the first 10-12 minutes of the game the small mistakes that protoss can make often lead to a loss, while if the zerg makes the mistake he is just slightly behind, after that its 50/50 who will win, but the protoss cannot afford early mistakes, they are too costly vs zerg
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51449 Posts
April 25 2019 11:34 GMT
#35
On April 25 2019 20:33 razorsuKe wrote:
wow this is actually my first time seeing forgg since the kespa days, he is looking built!


its his "first" offline BW match in 3044 days, you're not the only one
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
amasposu
Profile Joined March 2019
18 Posts
April 25 2019 11:36 GMT
#36
On April 25 2019 20:24 Wombat_NI wrote:
I have closed a lot of holes in my Brood War knowledge over the years so I’m not totally out of the loop vs say a new viewer.

As long as you have a good observer and knowledgable casters, as a viewer I think it’s definitely better to not have the production bar.

I’m not a total BW noob by any means, watching a lot more of it these days. Are Protoss struggling in vZ these days as they seem to lose a lot when I do watch or check results?

Mini is quite strong in pvz. Mini defeated Effort and Calm in ASL7.

And considering that Effort defeated God in ASL6:

Action > Mini > Effort > God
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51449 Posts
April 25 2019 11:43 GMT
#37
Poll: Recommend ForGG vs Soulkey Game 1?

Yes (2)
 
50%

If you have time (2)
 
50%

No (0)
 
0%

4 total votes

Your vote: Recommend ForGG vs Soulkey Game 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27361 Posts
April 25 2019 11:44 GMT
#38
On April 25 2019 20:34 M2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2019 20:24 Wombat_NI wrote:
I have closed a lot of holes in my Brood War knowledge over the years so I’m not totally out of the loop vs say a new viewer.

As long as you have a good observer and knowledgable casters, as a viewer I think it’s definitely better to not have the production bar.

I’m not a total BW noob by any means, watching a lot more of it these days. Are Protoss struggling in vZ these days as they seem to lose a lot when I do watch or check results?

yeah protoss usually struggles vs zergs since forever. Not sure we can claim that the match is imbalanced because protoss have everything necessary to beat zerg, but somehow the first 10-12 minutes of the game the small mistakes that protoss can make often lead to a loss, while if the zerg makes the mistake he is just slightly behind, after that its 50/50 who will win, but the protoss cannot afford early mistakes, they are too costly vs zerg

Yeah. I was watching some dual FPVoDs of some PvZs, wish more people stuck those on YouTube, side by side FPV is a great way to watch the game.

It seems in BW players have bigger variances in their matchups as well, at least compared to SC2.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
razorsuKe
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2047 Posts
April 25 2019 11:45 GMT
#39
Even though Forgg lost, I'm feeling that determination in his eyes/demeanor. I mean, he's not going to win lol, but he looks like he will be deadly in the future when he gets back into shape.

Nothing scarier than a good player who feels completely comfortable on stage.
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27361 Posts
April 25 2019 11:49 GMT
#40
I hope he does get into tip top shape, something so manly about ForGG
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1156 Posts
April 25 2019 11:50 GMT
#41
On April 25 2019 20:45 razorsuKe wrote:
Even though Forgg lost, I'm feeling that determination in his eyes/demeanor. I mean, he's not going to win lol, but he looks like he will be deadly in the future when he gets back into shape.

Nothing scarier than a good player who feels completely comfortable on stage.


if he lose hes gonna have to face mini, tvp is his worst matchup. unfortunate he had to meet such heavyweights in his first tourney appearance since kespa
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51449 Posts
April 25 2019 11:59 GMT
#42
Poll: Recommend ForGG vs Soulkey Game 2?

No (2)
 
50%

Yes (1)
 
25%

If you have time (1)
 
25%

4 total votes

Your vote: Recommend ForGG vs Soulkey Game 2?

(Vote): No
(Vote): Yes
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
amasposu
Profile Joined March 2019
18 Posts
April 25 2019 12:14 GMT
#43
fastgg is getting rekted.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51449 Posts
April 25 2019 12:15 GMT
#44
Poll: Recommend ForGG vs Soulkey Game 3?

No (2)
 
50%

If you have time (1)
 
25%

Yes (1)
 
25%

4 total votes

Your vote: Recommend ForGG vs Soulkey Game 3?

(Vote): If you have time
(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27361 Posts
April 25 2019 12:17 GMT
#45
Ouch
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
oEkY
Profile Joined August 2016
Germany649 Posts
April 25 2019 12:19 GMT
#46
sadly SK made him look like an amateur :/
TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
April 25 2019 12:19 GMT
#47
We haven't had something as one-sided in a while.
WriterReV hwaiting!
repomaniak
Profile Joined January 2009
Poland324 Posts
April 25 2019 12:20 GMT
#48
KSL cheer art action


KSL Artosis if u love him why don't you write him a love letter


KSL cheer germany


KSL cheers kr


KSL Artosis bunker vs trillion hydras
Wonk
Profile Joined March 2017
546 Posts
April 25 2019 12:22 GMT
#49
Oough. That was a tough one. Unfortunate but not unsurprising considering forgg didn't really have to take anybody dominant to qualify. He's showing promise but he's not up to tournament standard just yet. I hope to see him again in the future!

Shame about the double 3:0, i thought mini definitely would have put up more of a fight vs. zerg. Action putting up a hellava fight there
Thinasy
Profile Joined March 2011
2856 Posts
April 25 2019 12:31 GMT
#50
Ye Soulkey smashed him, hopeful for tomorrow. Hoping for a miracle that Stork and Jaedong show up
Jaedong & Faker
jjmmtt
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia995 Posts
April 25 2019 14:04 GMT
#51
Mah boi Action keeps wrecking face.
bovienchien
Profile Joined March 2014
Vietnam1152 Posts
April 25 2019 14:38 GMT
#52
How to avoid a ZvZ matchup in the final for this season?
https://www.facebook.com/StarcraftRemasteredVN/
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19384 Posts
April 25 2019 15:45 GMT
#53
On April 25 2019 23:04 jjmmtt wrote:
Mah boi Action keeps wrecking face.

Yeah I really enjoy Action and think he has a ton of talent. Last time I hyped him up I got a lot of backlash and then he lost. So I had no choice but to pick Mini in the predictions. I would have thought the games were a lot closer then this too. Action played well, but more importantly Mini looked like he was really in his head today. He better clear it up fast if he wants to advance at all.
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Incomplete..ReV
Profile Joined August 2017
Norway663 Posts
April 25 2019 19:15 GMT
#54
Not the best games =/ Mini's opening in Game 1 was really cool, though!
It's ok. I still love you <3
KamMoye
Profile Joined December 2010
United States721 Posts
April 25 2019 21:47 GMT
#55
Action had been really solid for some time now.
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8176 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-25 22:23:11
April 25 2019 22:20 GMT
#56
All 3 games of action vs mini seemed like mini got himself into a great position but then fucked himself. Action played really solid though, I don't mean to take anything away from him. I love mini's style but it sucks to see him constantly lose games the same way by over-committing to attacks :\

Soulkey looking like he's trying to redeem himself after flunking out of the last ASL so early. I'd say he's the favorite in the tournament as long as he avoids other top zergs (which just seems like too much of a toss-up between all the top zergs right now). Really hoping we get to see another last vs soulkey Bo7 this season.
Free Palestine
Alpha-NP-
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1242 Posts
April 26 2019 00:10 GMT
#57
Some big upsets so far. I am sure every round will get more and more epic as usual.
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