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[ICCUP] Nation League 2 - Playoffs - Page 2

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[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6990 Posts
March 07 2017 17:47 GMT
#21
On March 07 2017 20:09 _Animus_ wrote:
Its a shame such good team like Europe goes inactive during semifinals when they have real chance of wining...

yes,playing semifinals and lossing by wo is a very shitty situation and we have to learn from this.ytong infected working,and all the rest same,except octzerg that fallsleep(and to be honest there is no blame on him,he did come for almost the entire season),last season we did ask russia to play matches before hand since 2 of our key players also work the day of the nw,russia ajusted to the rules and ddint agree,this time only non and I come for the semifinals ,maybe is time to be more flexible about this or change the rules cuz 1hour:20 mins later ytong and octzerg both come available to play,but we were already DQ. simple cuz the leader from russia funny[ru] wanted a free pass.he can come now saying yes but dewalt has to work the next day,but after we were dq dewalt was playing on fish for a long..and the next day dewalt was streaming.im not blaming Dewalt,wathever by the rules it is clear they are doing the good choice,but for the public for the show and for us is not a cool situation.
SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
March 07 2017 18:10 GMT
#22
When you're that far into a tournament, think there is no excuse to be more flexible for players.

Especially if all they needed was less than a day.
I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6990 Posts
March 07 2017 20:12 GMT
#23
On March 08 2017 03:10 SCC-Faust wrote:
When you're that far into a tournament, think there is no excuse to be more flexible for players.

Especially if all they needed was less than a day.

yeah maybe,we are talking about adults,for example ytong has a baby and in the quarter finals vs america he needed like 40 minutes waiting for his wife to take care of the baby,u know what im saying ?
iCCup.Face
Profile Joined February 2014
Italy447 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-07 23:05:08
March 07 2017 22:56 GMT
#24
During the semifinals we have had an irregularity into slot2: Djem5[RU] vs [HU]non, game3, Chain Reaction.
The captain of RUSSIA. fuNny[RU] obs cheat, msging to Djem5 the builds/moves of the opponent.

We already have a rule in such situations: http://iccup.com/en/starcraft/sc_nl_rules

7. Nation War Procedures
7.6
Observers are permitted in Nation League only if both players agree on their presence; an exception are official iCCup Observers or Streamers/Casters, who must be admitted into any match they choose to observe or stream. Complaints about non-official observers are not valid.


11. Abuses and Punishments
11.2
Any player found abusing in any way will be permanent banned from the Nation League, in addition, the Nation War which was abused in will be counted as a loss for his Nation.


Premising that:
- it wasn't a regular NW, but a playoffs match
- [HU]non accepted the observer in game
- Djem5[RU] did not abuse
- fuNny[RU] cheated

RUSSIA will be penalized with -15% from own prize pool.
Administration can't tolerate any kind of fraud, moreover by the Leader of a team and in a semifinal.

Note: would be mannered and appreciated if Djem5[RU] left and re-game after seen the msg received. The unofficial admission has been appreciated though.
People have the right to be stupid. Some people abuse that privilege.
iwl-fuNny
Profile Joined February 2012
Russian Federation74 Posts
March 07 2017 23:47 GMT
#25
Stole the account for a minute
noname_
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
466 Posts
March 07 2017 23:53 GMT
#26
Well considering he seen all the messages and didn`t even bother even to type /dnd tells much about the situation. In my eyes he`s just as guilty as the other. And this is just one game, it`s quite possible (seeing for what bos he has been opting for) it happened in the other 2 games too.
iwl-fuNny
Profile Joined February 2012
Russian Federation74 Posts
March 08 2017 00:09 GMT
#27
it was only 1 time , face can proof -_- i dnk for wht i did that , It was help that no one asked for. and was late , when mms already out )
Completely my fault, do not need to think about the rest of the team
Mango
Profile Joined July 2006
Belgium522 Posts
March 08 2017 12:39 GMT
#28
Cheating by the team leader in an official match. I think this is a very light punishment you are giving them. The only correct thing for Djem5 to do was to alert his opponent about this. He did nothing, not that innocent it seems.
kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2042 Posts
March 08 2017 13:02 GMT
#29
On March 08 2017 07:56 iCCup.Face wrote:
During the semifinals we have had an irregularity into slot2: Djem5[RU] vs [HU]non, game3, Chain Reaction.
The captain of RUSSIA. fuNny[RU] obs cheat, msging to Djem5 the builds/moves of the opponent.

We already have a rule in such situations: http://iccup.com/en/starcraft/sc_nl_rules

7. Nation War Procedures
7.6
Observers are permitted in Nation League only if both players agree on their presence; an exception are official iCCup Observers or Streamers/Casters, who must be admitted into any match they choose to observe or stream. Complaints about non-official observers are not valid.


11. Abuses and Punishments
11.2
Any player found abusing in any way will be permanent banned from the Nation League, in addition, the Nation War which was abused in will be counted as a loss for his Nation.


Premising that:
- it wasn't a regular NW, but a playoffs match
- [HU]non accepted the observer in game
- Djem5[RU] did not abuse
- fuNny[RU] cheated

RUSSIA will be penalized with -15% from own prize pool.
Administration can't tolerate any kind of fraud, moreover by the Leader of a team and in a semifinal.

Note: would be mannered and appreciated if Djem5[RU] left and re-game after seen the msg received. The unofficial admission has been appreciated though.


Is it 15% off the price pool or 15% more for other team? :D
https://www.twitch.tv/kogetbw
InDi
Profile Joined April 2010
Spain90 Posts
March 08 2017 13:04 GMT
#30
Foreign BW is now a really small community, if we start having trust issues on the leaders of national teams...

I think at least Funny should be banned from being TL for Russia and the match should be given to Non, making it 2-0 for EU with the possibility to win the 2v2 with the players who were available...

Am I missing something? only taking a 15% of a price that they accessed cheating seems like a really light punishment to me.

Just to state how this semifinals went: Russia didn't accept any rescheduling, which is quite BM at this stage even if "legal", then went on and cheated on the decisive game that could give EU a chance... they are still advancing to the finals without any major punishment :/
SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-08 15:31:00
March 08 2017 15:27 GMT
#31
On March 08 2017 05:12 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2017 03:10 SCC-Faust wrote:
When you're that far into a tournament, think there is no excuse to be more flexible for players.

Especially if all they needed was less than a day.

yeah maybe,we are talking about adults,for example ytong has a baby and in the quarter finals vs america he needed like 40 minutes waiting for his wife to take care of the baby,u know what im saying ?


Fuck, I meant not be more flexible*. I feel like the admins should have let the match be rescheduled.

Also I agree with the post above me.
I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
_Animus_
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria1064 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-13 00:14:26
March 12 2017 19:28 GMT
#32
And We are live Poland vs Russia Grand Finals, tune in at twitch.tv/iccupbwtv - cast by Herbmon

Teams Lineups so far:
Polland vs Russia

1v1
koget vs Djem5
trutaCz vs Dewalt
LancerX
2v2
trutaCz + Johnek vs Djem5 + Flisk
Ace
Bonyth vs Dewalt
Luv ya BroodWar!
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29904 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-12 20:49:20
March 12 2017 20:49 GMT
#33
Dewalt with 6k minerals at 25 min mark of the game?

The hell is this :O
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alexpnd
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1857 Posts
March 12 2017 21:53 GMT
#34
I'm pretty bitter about Russia team now, they cheat. :S Should be disqualified next NW.
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kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2042 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-12 22:46:23
March 12 2017 22:46 GMT
#35
GW Poland!

GG Russia.

Good job organizers.
https://www.twitch.tv/kogetbw
blackmanpl
Profile Blog Joined January 2017
68 Posts
March 12 2017 23:39 GMT
#36
During the semifinals we have had an irregularity into slot2: Djem5[RU] vs [HU]non, game3, Chain Reaction.
The captain of RUSSIA. fuNny[RU] obs cheat, msging to Djem5 the builds/moves of the opponent.


Nothing new if you seen them play. Just lucky they weren't sitting next to each other like they're used to and type instead of talking.

If he listened, and didn't react, that means they both cheated.
iCCup.Face
Profile Joined February 2014
Italy447 Posts
March 13 2017 08:29 GMT
#37
People have the right to be stupid. Some people abuse that privilege.
iCCup.BwTV
Profile Joined October 2015
8 Posts
March 13 2017 14:48 GMT
#38
Season 2 concluded.
Administration want to thank all the participants and followers.
EndingLife
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States1602 Posts
March 13 2017 15:09 GMT
#39
Sooo... Is Funny banned from future Nation League Tournaments?
iwl-fuNny
Profile Joined February 2012
Russian Federation74 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-13 17:20:19
March 13 2017 17:19 GMT
#40
No. But I am already resigning ;D

Thx for Season, gratc Polaland , u very strong petyhi
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