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Prof. Protoss
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Germany744 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-18 17:55:19
November 18 2012 17:53 GMT
#401
Infernal..nice! gogo WE!!

edit: btw I just came back from vacation. If western europe needs a substitute feel free to message me.
C+ 1on1 Zerg / Protoss
B- 2on2 Zerg

gogo gl hf
Don't mess the fess!
Mewka
Profile Joined February 2011
Poland1458 Posts
November 18 2012 18:18 GMT
#402
http://pl.twitch.tv/elegant_aov live ^^
Mewka, Mewka[AoV], Fox.Mewka, Mewman
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
November 18 2012 18:40 GMT
#403
damnnnnn michael is a bully :D
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
November 18 2012 19:41 GMT
#404
Working on the LP article, but I have no idea on the results so far. Anyone able to help?
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ne4aJIb
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Russian Federation3209 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-18 20:09:29
November 18 2012 19:56 GMT
#405
stream is back!

wtf with so many american flags on overlay

lol when i was writing where the stream is, it appeared, when i was writing why there are so many flags, they dissappeared. [image loading]
Bisu,Best,Stork,Jangbi and Flash, Fantasy, Leta, Light and Jaedong, Hydra, Zero, Soulkey assemble in ACE now!
Topdoller
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3860 Posts
November 18 2012 19:58 GMT
#406
Woot...
What software is he using to stream with?
ne4aJIb
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Russian Federation3209 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-18 21:00:11
November 18 2012 20:57 GMT
#407
lol 2v2 chat spoils the results...
and zz teams imba [image loading]
Bisu,Best,Stork,Jangbi and Flash, Fantasy, Leta, Light and Jaedong, Hydra, Zero, Soulkey assemble in ACE now!
Epoxide
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Magic Woods9326 Posts
November 18 2012 21:06 GMT
#408
On November 19 2012 04:41 KristofferAG wrote:
Working on the LP article, but I have no idea on the results so far. Anyone able to help?

Thanks man, ask ForeignBW he will be able to assist.
LiquipediaSouma: EU MM is just Russian Roulette. Literally.
sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-21 09:09:25
November 21 2012 09:06 GMT
#409
AP has a new player

jp v v v starmint

thanks

update

batang instead of
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Cryoc
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany912 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-21 14:06:03
November 21 2012 10:22 GMT
#410
Please add the following players to the Western Europe roster:
de TEH
dk Ihufa
v/v/v de ProfProtoss
http://www.twitch.tv/cryoc
Epoxide
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Magic Woods9326 Posts
November 21 2012 11:14 GMT
#411
On November 21 2012 19:22 Cryoc wrote:
Please add the following players to the Western Europe roster:
TEH
Ihufa
v/v/v ProfProtoss

Please post their nations so I can add them to lp
LiquipediaSouma: EU MM is just Russian Roulette. Literally.
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
November 21 2012 21:09 GMT
#412
Plz get dr.shrinker on your team so you can have a dr.shrinker/profprotoss 2v2 team. Thanks
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
Sum41
Profile Joined November 2011
Chile345 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-21 23:09:11
November 21 2012 23:08 GMT
#413
i love the drama in this thread :D

edit: i ask myself, when i will stop being a drone ._.
Hydralisk so fasts and dangerous :D
ForeignBW
Profile Joined October 2012
157 Posts
November 22 2012 01:02 GMT
#414
All roster requests have been updated. Please, if I have spelled your name wrong either here or in the R&S thread post here or PM me so that I may fix it. Thank you.
sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-22 05:41:15
November 22 2012 05:33 GMT
#415
jp v v v starmint

Cannot play at 11CET Saturday due to work.

However he is able to play on 11CET Sunday. If it makes it easier we will use him as our ACE, in-case an ace match is necessary, and match him to play the final 1v1 and ace match (if necessary) against a preselected opponents ace player. This means we will not have to reschedule an ACE match if it ever comes to one.

We have still not received our opponents lineup from last week. I suggest a better solution to our first weeks game, is to just post pone round 2 matches and allow us to play in a catchup week at the end of round 1.

Given that in most situations the team who followed the rules should have recieved w/o, we still gladly accept a full rematch. However we would like to be posted who on their team is playing on what maps (their lineup w' maps basically) before we post ours. I believe this is a fair solution to the current situation.

Thanks for the understanding.
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dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
November 22 2012 06:39 GMT
#416
On November 22 2012 14:33 sluggaslamoo wrote:
jp v v v starmint

Cannot play at 11CET Saturday due to work.

However he is able to play on 11CET Sunday. If it makes it easier we will use him as our ACE, in-case an ace match is necessary, and match him to play the final 1v1 and ace match (if necessary) against a preselected opponents ace player. This means we will not have to reschedule an ACE match if it ever comes to one.

We have still not received our opponents lineup from last week. I suggest a better solution to our first weeks game, is to just post pone round 2 matches and allow us to play in a catchup week at the end of round 1.

Given that in most situations the team who followed the rules should have recieved w/o, we still gladly accept a full rematch. However we would like to be posted who on their team is playing on what maps (their lineup w' maps basically) before we post ours. I believe this is a fair solution to the current situation.

Thanks for the understanding.

I'm wondering why BG still didn't comply yet :eon:
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
ForeignBW
Profile Joined October 2012
157 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-22 06:47:02
November 22 2012 06:39 GMT
#417
On November 22 2012 14:33 sluggaslamoo wrote:
jp v v v starmint

Cannot play at 11CET Saturday due to work.

However he is able to play on 11CET Sunday. If it makes it easier we will use him as our ACE, in-case an ace match is necessary, and match him to play the final 1v1 and ace match (if necessary) against a preselected opponents ace player. This means we will not have to reschedule an ACE match if it ever comes to one.

We have still not received our opponents lineup from last week. I suggest a better solution to our first weeks game, is to just post pone round 2 matches and allow us to play in a catchup week at the end of round 1.

Given that in most situations the team who followed the rules should have recieved w/o, we still gladly accept a full rematch. However we would like to be posted who on their team is playing on what maps (their lineup w' maps basically) before we post ours. I believe this is a fair solution to the current situation.

Thanks for the understanding.

These are the quite the demands. I ruled on this matter in a very fair way that doesn't give you an insane, almost cheating advantage. I won't do any of these. The StarMint request doesn't even make sense. That's actually rescheduling but you claim that it isn't. There are rules on postponement, just like there was a decision on the first week match. Regarding StarMint and the match vs EE, if you read my decision, you would realize that you have that option. No, you haven't received the opponents lineup from last week - because, again, if you read my decision, you'd know they have until Sunday, the same way your team does (which has not done so yet).
sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-23 04:28:44
November 23 2012 04:08 GMT
#418
On November 22 2012 15:39 ForeignBW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 14:33 sluggaslamoo wrote:
jp v v v starmint

Cannot play at 11CET Saturday due to work.

However he is able to play on 11CET Sunday. If it makes it easier we will use him as our ACE, in-case an ace match is necessary, and match him to play the final 1v1 and ace match (if necessary) against a preselected opponents ace player. This means we will not have to reschedule an ACE match if it ever comes to one.

We have still not received our opponents lineup from last week. I suggest a better solution to our first weeks game, is to just post pone round 2 matches and allow us to play in a catchup week at the end of round 1.

Given that in most situations the team who followed the rules should have recieved w/o, we still gladly accept a full rematch. However we would like to be posted who on their team is playing on what maps (their lineup w' maps basically) before we post ours. I believe this is a fair solution to the current situation.

Thanks for the understanding.

These are the quite the demands. I ruled on this matter in a very fair way that doesn't give you an insane, almost cheating advantage. I won't do any of these. The StarMint request doesn't even make sense. That's actually rescheduling but you claim that it isn't. There are rules on postponement, just like there was a decision on the first week match. Regarding StarMint and the match vs EE, if you read my decision, you would realize that you have that option. No, you haven't received the opponents lineup from last week - because, again, if you read my decision, you'd know they have until Sunday, the same way your team does (which has not done so yet).


I think you misunderstood.

Starmint cannot play on Saturdays. Therefore for each week we will use him as our ACE and play against the other teams ACE for the 1v1 and ACE match on Sunday. We don't need to know who the player is before hand, in fact this gives other teams an advantage because they know who they will be playing against. Instead of postponing every week, I am just saying that this is a weekly post-ponent for all of his games to be played at the same time but on Sunday instead, to make everyone's lives a lot easier.

Your previous post sounded like we had to wait for technics to post their lineup first (see next quote). So I was waiting. I will be sending you the lineup in 5 minutes from now.

Because you said

"Since AP is more right in this situation, the lineup will be altered in their favor"

The request I just made was having the lineup altered in our favour. Is it not? The way you phrased the explanation made it sound like their team would be sending the lineup first and then we send ours to match theirs with times. So I assumed I was merely doing the same thing, but everyone playing at the same time which makes organising a lot easier.

I think having individual times for every match is simply not going to work. What is a reasonable time? Any time organised by us is obviously going to be "unreasonable" for them unless its on the weekend. When we do get a "reasonable time", it will not be that reasonable for either of us. By the time we figure out game times, it will be christmas. I assumed that the lineup would be altered in our favor, so that's the proposition I made.

I believe my proposition was completely justified and there was no reason to escalate it. If you said "the times will be altered in their favour" I wouldn't have come up with this. What is cheating? What is fair? by the rules we should have been awarded the w/o but we weren't. Its already unfair, and having individual times at a reasonable time I don't think is fair either when we obviously know that no time is going to be reasonable.

I am not going to complain if we don't get it, it is simply a proposition, but considering the rules have been bent already, I don't see why this came to be such a huge issue.

The catchup week I think is a far superior alternative than organising times individually.
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ForeignBW
Profile Joined October 2012
157 Posts
November 23 2012 04:27 GMT
#419
On November 23 2012 13:08 sluggaslamoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 15:39 ForeignBW wrote:
On November 22 2012 14:33 sluggaslamoo wrote:
jp v v v starmint

Cannot play at 11CET Saturday due to work.

However he is able to play on 11CET Sunday. If it makes it easier we will use him as our ACE, in-case an ace match is necessary, and match him to play the final 1v1 and ace match (if necessary) against a preselected opponents ace player. This means we will not have to reschedule an ACE match if it ever comes to one.

We have still not received our opponents lineup from last week. I suggest a better solution to our first weeks game, is to just post pone round 2 matches and allow us to play in a catchup week at the end of round 1.

Given that in most situations the team who followed the rules should have recieved w/o, we still gladly accept a full rematch. However we would like to be posted who on their team is playing on what maps (their lineup w' maps basically) before we post ours. I believe this is a fair solution to the current situation.

Thanks for the understanding.

These are the quite the demands. I ruled on this matter in a very fair way that doesn't give you an insane, almost cheating advantage. I won't do any of these. The StarMint request doesn't even make sense. That's actually rescheduling but you claim that it isn't. There are rules on postponement, just like there was a decision on the first week match. Regarding StarMint and the match vs EE, if you read my decision, you would realize that you have that option. No, you haven't received the opponents lineup from last week - because, again, if you read my decision, you'd know they have until Sunday, the same way your team does (which has not done so yet).


I think you misunderstand, I didn't claim that it isn't rescheduling. (please direct me to where I said that)

Starmint cannot play on Saturdays. Therefore for each week we will use him as our ACE and play against the other teams ACE for the 1v1 and ACE match on Sunday. We don't need to know who the player is before hand, in fact this gives other teams an advantage because they know who they will be playing against. Instead of postponing every week, I am just saying that this is a weekly post-ponent for all of his games to be played at the same time but on Sunday instead, to make everyone's lives a lot easier.

Your previous post sounded like we had to wait for technics to post their lineup first (see next quote). So I was waiting. I will be sending you the lineup in 5 minutes from now.

Because you said

"Since AP is more right in this situation, the lineup will be altered in their favor"

The request I just made was having the lineup altered in our favour. Is it not?

I think having individual times for every match is simply not going to work. What is a reasonable time? Any time organised by us is obviously going to be "unreasonable" for them unless its on the weekend. When we do get a "reasonable time", it will not be that reasonable for either of us. By the time we figure out game times, it will be christmas. I assumed that the lineup would be altered in our favor, so that's the proposition I made.

I believe my proposition was completely justified and there was no reason to escalate it. If you said "the times will be altered in their favour" I wouldn't have come up with this. What is cheating? by the rules we should have been awarded the w/o but we weren't. I am not going to complain if we don't get it, it is simply a proposition, but considering the rules have been bent already, I don't see why this came to be such a huge issue.

The catchup week I think is a far superior alternative than organising times individually.

On November 22 2012 14:33 sluggaslamoo wrote:
This means we will not have to reschedule an ACE match if it ever comes to one.

Thanks for the understanding.


On November 18 2012 06:01 ForeignBW wrote:
Both teams must submit a lineup to me by this time next week. Since AP is more right in this situation, the lineup will be altered in their favor. What I mean by this is that EE will send me their 5 players, and based on the set player of AP's availability (I will enforce reasonable playing times), which I will know in advance, I will mediate the NW and have TechnicS send whichever player is available during those times. I know that this isn't as easy as just showing up to play one day, but it's very important for both teams to finish this nation war.


"I think having individual times for every match is simply not going to work." Your thoughts on that are just wrong. I've got quite a bit more experience than you on these matters. If you guys can't work with me over 5 weeks to play 6 best of 3's, then I don't know what to tell you.

"What is cheating?" "We have still not received our opponents lineup from last week."
I'd say that getting your opponents lineup is a cheating advantage.

I truly, truly feel that you didn't understand the decision that I posted. I'd suggest carefully reading it, as it won't change.
sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-23 04:43:02
November 23 2012 04:39 GMT
#420
Individual times may have worked for people with similar timezones, but I just think its going to be a huge hassle when we are on the opposite sides of the world.

Ill leave it up to you, but I doubt its gonna work because our morning is their night and visa-versa. Hardly anyone can play in the morning or during the day during weekdays because of work/uni.

Also what is the rule if neither team gets their games finished by the deadline you prescribed?

As for the Starmint issue, if we don't do it in the way I prescribed, then we will need to spread our 1v1 and ACE matches over two weeks every week, which is just silly. If we say that our entire team will be playing at 11CET Saturday, except for Starmint on 11CET Sunday, technically that's not really rescheduling, its just that that is our teams schedule for each week.

Why not just say that the other team will select who to vs against Starmint on Sunday and will also play the ACE match? We are not going against the rules at all, we are just saying that we will be postponing Starmints game to Sunday 11CET every week (in a way).

If they want to pit different players against Starmint, then they will both have to turn up on Sunday instead of Saturday, if they really really want to.
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