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StarCraft2
160 Posts
On November 24 2012 07:30 Epoxide wrote: According to the R&S thread it was scheduled to play on the 17th. Weird cause we had a long delay at 17th and afaik nothing was played. I left after maybe 1-2h of waiting. | ||
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hacklebeast
United States5090 Posts
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StarCraft2
160 Posts
On November 24 2012 07:55 hacklebeast wrote: you guys apparently played 3 sets last saturday, then the rest yesterday. At least that's how I understand it. Ok fair enough, I'll just wait for updated results on wiki. Thanks for replies | ||
Epoxide
Magic Woods9326 Posts
On November 24 2012 08:03 StarCraft2 wrote: Ok fair enough, I'll just wait for updated results on wiki. Thanks for replies I came in late on the cast so I missed the first 3 sets that's why the LP article isn't updated yet. | ||
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ForeignBW
157 Posts
DarKo (StarCraft2), Latin America contacted Ace about playing the games by Friday (when I told them they had to be played by), and he agreed. They were played at 19CET today. | ||
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sluggaslamoo
Australia4494 Posts
On November 24 2012 03:47 ForeignBW wrote: Neither of you get the rule. You don't contact each other, the rule clearly states that you contact me. I'm not granting this PP for this week because of the obvious reason. I've told you in this thread multiple times that Starmint cannot play on Saturday and can play on Sunday 11 CET, you even talked about it, well in advance. Otherwise I do not know what contact is. Do you need a PM next time? (although the rules didn't specifically ask for one iirc) Why are you so lenient to Eastern Europe who failed to check the inboxes/thread when they knew the times weren't set yet, or skype, and clearly broke the rules, but don't give us one PP even when I've done everything I can to tell you about the PP over a longer timeframe. Not only that, all the discussion was done in the thread as well both times. There is clearly some bias going on here. I'd love to know what would have happened if we did not turn up and EE did. At what point is it ok to be lenient, I'd like to know, because I believe we deserve some of that. | ||
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dRaW
Canada5744 Posts
example Team A vs Team B Team A uses PP (it's super effective!) Team B goes, yeah no worries we comply because we're nice guys... Time goes by, neither can play by Friday (various reasons, i.e 1 team has only so many active players or maybe they can actually only play on the weekend during the times available for PP matches) Who gets the win? If team B gets the WO for complying to the original PP match, what incentives do they have to play at all, why not just take the WO? | ||
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hacklebeast
United States5090 Posts
On November 24 2012 12:51 dRaW wrote: Question... If there's a PP match you claim we must play by Friday 19cet of the following week... When and where is the final deadline time? example Team A vs Team B Team A uses PP (it's super effective!) Team B goes, yeah no worries we comply because we're nice guys... Time goes by, neither can play by Friday (various reasons, i.e 1 team has only so many active players or maybe they can actually only play on the weekend during the times available for PP matches) Who gets the win? If team B gets the WO for complying to the original PP match, what incentives do they have to play at all, why not just take the WO? If team B just wants to win for winning's sake then Team B goes, yeah no worries we comply because we're nice guys... wouldn't have happened | ||
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hacklebeast
United States5090 Posts
On November 24 2012 12:18 sluggaslamoo wrote: I've told you in this thread multiple times that Starmint cannot play on Saturday and can play on Sunday 11 CET, you even talked about it, well in advance. Otherwise I do not know what contact is. Do you need a PM next time? (although the rules didn't specifically ask for one iirc) Why are you so lenient to Eastern Europe who failed to check the inboxes/thread when they knew the times weren't set yet, or skype, and clearly broke the rules, but don't give us one PP even when I've done everything I can to tell you about the PP over a longer timeframe. Not only that, all the discussion was done in the thread as well both times. There is clearly some bias going on here. I'd love to know what would have happened if we did not turn up and EE did. At what point is it ok to be lenient, I'd like to know, because I believe we deserve some of that. He already told you that your prior requests didn't count and explained why before the 24 hours were up. There is a 24 hour rule for a reason. If you don't understand/agree with the reasons for it, that's fine. But it doesn't mean that you get to ignore the rule. There is no bias heare. Your team is already getting special treatment, and you are whining because the organizers/other team leaders won't make your PP schedule for you. Coming in and saying "Yo, my super special player will only play on this not normal day at this not normal time. Figure it out fuckers." isn't going to fly. | ||
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ForeignBW
157 Posts
On November 24 2012 12:18 sluggaslamoo wrote: I've told you in this thread multiple times that Starmint cannot play on Saturday and can play on Sunday 11 CET, you even talked about it, well in advance. Otherwise I do not know what contact is. Do you need a PM next time? (although the rules didn't specifically ask for one iirc) Why are you so lenient to Eastern Europe who failed to check the inboxes/thread when they knew the times weren't set yet, or skype, and clearly broke the rules, but don't give us one PP even when I've done everything I can to tell you about the PP over a longer timeframe. Not only that, all the discussion was done in the thread as well both times. There is clearly some bias going on here. I'd love to know what would have happened if we did not turn up and EE did. At what point is it ok to be lenient, I'd like to know, because I believe we deserve some of that. We discussed StarMint several times on a public forum in the applicable thread. Yes, for postponements you specifically need to ask to postpone whether it's private or public. By specifically I mean weekly, listing the opponent and which set you'd like postponed. I'm not going to respond to your bias comments, I'll address that as a post of anger. | ||
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sluggaslamoo
Australia4494 Posts
On November 24 2012 13:44 hacklebeast wrote: He already told you that your prior requests didn't count and explained why before the 24 hours were up. There is a 24 hour rule for a reason. If you don't understand/agree with the reasons for it, that's fine. But it doesn't mean that you get to ignore the rule. There is no bias heare. Your team is already getting special treatment, and you are whining because the organizers/other team leaders won't make your PP schedule for you. Coming in and saying "Yo, my super special player will only play on this not normal day at this not normal time. Figure it out fuckers." isn't going to fly. ? this doesn't make sense. I contacted game that Starmint needs PP, what more is there to it? I am fine with the ACE match needing an extra PP, I don't care about that, Starmint still needs his PP which I notified well in advance. Can you specify why exactly we were not granted the PP? I am really confused. I did everything that I could. Notified Defi on skype (who was online), and in the thread (which game acknowledged), well before the 24 hours were up. This is not special treatment, this is a standard PP, of which we are allowed to do. | ||
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ForeignBW
157 Posts
On October 19 2012 08:21 ForeignBW wrote: 12) The use of an incorrect map will result in a draw for the set, both players will be banned from their next Nation War. (Rule #8 applies for rigged maps) First Disciplinary Actions: LocDog vs HanDy: Used FS as 2nd and 3rd map. MaD + PaSs versus babo and LoCcxitO: Used FS all 3 times. I was going to let the 2v2 slide because it seems the rules weren't understood, but the leader was involved from LA. Come on... All players mentioned cannot play in this week's nation war. Sorry for the short notice, I've been traveling and celebrating the holidays all week. I suggest that you guys read the rules for further notice. | ||
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ForeignBW
157 Posts
Important: Hacklebeast will be the ref of today's 19CET nation wars due to personal reasons for LRM)nOoNe and LRM)Game. | ||
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sluggaslamoo
Australia4494 Posts
Poland <> Asian Pacific Starmint will need to PP'd. Preferrably Sunday 11 CET on Set 1 Fighting Spirit for the December 1 game. Thanks | ||
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hacklebeast
United States5090 Posts
On November 24 2012 14:23 sluggaslamoo wrote: Can you specify why exactly we were not granted the PP? On November 23 2012 13:53 ForeignBW wrote: Discretion will be used if the games are not finished. It will be based on effort. If everything is taken care of reasonably by AP and EE just can't finish the games, AP will receive the W.Os because as I said, you guys are more right in this case. I implied that you should read the rules on postponement... which just meant that you'll have to postpone the ace match every week. The problem with that is an ACE match is hypothetical. None have even been played in the league yet. Because of that, you'd have to postpone one of your sets for StarMint. Why? In the rules, postponement has to be done 24 hours before a match. You can't postpone something that doesn't factually exist every match. And then the next time you brought it up it was within 24 hours. I don't think you understand the rule. It's not "ask for a PP" 24 hours before, it's "talk to both the organizer and the other team leader and have everyone shaking hands in agreement" 24 hours before. If you tried to talk to defi and couldn't reach him, that's a shame. But Defi has no responsibility to help you out with your PP, and you are essentially asking him for a favor to allow you to play the set at a different time. That being said, Defi (and the other leaders I have had any extended interaction with) is a pretty cool guy and will probably be able to work something out with you if you bring it up directly with him earlier. It's not a matter of formally submitting a request to the organizer so that he can make other teams conform to the PP. It's about asking the other team yourself if it is something that they would be ok with, and then informing the organizer about the already made agreement. | ||
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dRaW
Canada5744 Posts
Getting Yan to play Bakuryu was troublesome, they are 9 hours apart and it took the whole week to get it set up, so I can imagine some teams will have trouble setting up games with AP NOT ON THE WEEKEND (it's exam period coming up as well...) I don't think slugga is whining he's just misunderstanding the situation all these replies are saying the same thing anyway -_-; Also, I am disappointed in the teams playing the wrong maps it's not hard to follow and I would rather show our team strength and line-up rather than receiving WOs. Hopefully we can get things running so we have opponent's full rosters available for us to show the true power of NA. | ||
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KoS-Templar
United States76 Posts
Skype -KoS-Templar FIsh - KoS-Templar | ||
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nFteamAce
Hungary72 Posts
On November 24 2012 14:32 ForeignBW wrote: First Disciplinary Actions: LocDog vs HanDy: Used FS as 2nd and 3rd map. MaD + PaSs versus babo and LoCcxitO: Used FS all 3 times. I was going to let the 2v2 slide because it seems the rules weren't understood, but the leader was involved from LA. Come on... All players mentioned cannot play in this week's nation war. Sorry for the short notice, I've been traveling and celebrating the holidays all week. I suggest that you guys read the rules for further notice. Okay. These games were played on thursday, when we let to LA to finish the cw, and we didn't take walkover. I don't have time for this, waiting 1 hour for the another team to show up, so could anybody tell me the rule about walkovers? We waited LA for 1 hour before we started playing, then we played 3 games and scored 3-0. After we won those three games we got walkover for that NW, that's why we played the rest of the games. So i'd be really thankful if you could tell me the offical rule about the walkovers. How many sets needed to play to make the NW count, and how much time do we have to wait for the opponet team? thanks. Anyway just noticing, we postponed a game for tonight. thanks for the answers | ||
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Epoxide
Magic Woods9326 Posts
On November 24 2012 09:33 ForeignBW wrote: Epixode, please check the R&S thread for all of the current week 1 results and standings available. DarKo (StarCraft2), Latin America contacted Ace about playing the games by Friday (when I told them they had to be played by), and he agreed. They were played at 19CET today. Wasn't updated when I checked  It's done now. | ||
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Boundz(DarKo)
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