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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/wNzJ1.png) Here we are! The NoisE Amateur StarLeague is now in its Round of 8 with the competition getting more and more fierce! Eight of the finest up-and-coming BroodWar players the foreign scene has to offer are now facing off in what is to be the most epic of battles! Who will be heard? Who will break the sound barrier? Who will fail to make even the slightest decibel? Follow us on this crazy ride in the NoisE Amateur StarLeague.
The NoisE Amateur StarLeague Round of EightThe players in this stage will face off in a single elimination Bo3. Winning player advancing to the Semifinals and the loser being knocked out of the NoisE Amateur StarLeague. The maps to be played in order are: Jade, Chain Reaction, and Ground Zero. Playing and Casting ScheduleGames will be played on Sunday, June 3rd on the Fish server at 19 CET. Each player must send in their replays to NoisEASL@Gmail.com directly after playing their match. After being played, EleGant will be casting on Friday, June 8th @ 20 CET.
The Elite EightClick here for full bracket  WandS vs   Mewka+ Show Spoiler [Matches and Results] ++ Show Spoiler [Interview with Mewka] +Hello Mewka! How are you doing on this fine day?Thanks, I am fine. I am trying to train and think how to play on these maps in ro8, which are kind of new for me. You've been a surprise player in the ASL by taking out the likes of Oxyacety, Toka, and Hollow! Your PvP seems to be your strong matchup. Do you think it can take you to the finals?I don't really know. Yes, my pvp is the best mu I guess, but now I'll face the strongest protoss in whole ASL. I'll do my best to take him down. Who would you like to face in the finals if you made it?I would like to face s2glow, cause I like pvz and he is the last zerg in tournament. Besides he his pretty good ^^ What are your Ro8 predictions?Wands can win this tour I think. I didn't see all ro16 matches yet tho, but when I saw that Rush beat m4nu 2-0 I think he must be really strong player. If you were to get knocked out, who would you like to be in the finals?Hard to say, but like I said Wands vs Rush would be amazing final series  Being that you will have to play PvP for the majority of the tournament, how are you preparing?I am just laddering on my 2 accounts on iccup and playing some 2on2 matches with Poetic. Centerly for this tour I was playing pvp vs Elegant on tours map, which helps me too. Huge thanks for the interview and best of luck to you in the tournament! Shoutouts?I want to thank Elegant, Wallace, s2glow, fold for being talkative and manner during all stages of this tournament. Shoutouts goes to all organizators, casters and sponsors of this tour, well done guys. Awesome tour for medium level players with nice prizes. Cheers .  Fold vs  Wallace+ Show Spoiler [Matches and Results] ++ Show Spoiler [Interview with Fold] +Yo yo Fold! How are you doing after your win over  Zeran?Sorry to Zeran if you felt cheated of not getting to play proper games. My plan on both Aztec and Destination was was to do forward gate and transition into a more "standard" game. During both games though, I saw that he wasn't dealing well with just the initial zealot pressure so I thought it would be better if I just went DTs and finish the games quickly. You beat the #1 place finisher of the ASL Ladder in the group stages, and you are now playing another top protoss in this Ro8. Your PvP wasn't known as your best matchup, but do you feel it improving?In the ladder stage Wands was 3 - 0 against me, killing me with the same harass each game so I feel I got really lucky in the group stages. When we played on ladder Wallace told me he hated PvP and his play reflected that so I'm not too worried about the upcoming game. PvP is still hard for me to understand but I think I'm getting a bit better at not throwing away big leads with lazy micro and I'm almost starting to enjoy PvP. (T_T Sorry harem) Who are you most afraid to face in the tournament?No one. We're all supposed to be C~ level players and all make lots of mistakes still so as long as I prepare well, I believe I can win any matchup. What's been the most surprising thing so far in the tournament? Do you think there were any upsets?Alec getting knocked out by protosses in his group when I feel he has the strongest TvP in this whole tournament. In practice he is around 7 - 2 against me with a lot of games where he just a-moves 50 tanks. He really should have got much further. Lumire also shouldn't have lost but he wouldn't have made it past the next round anyway.  Oxyacety also should have gotten further, his goon micro seems really good. If you were to win the $150 first place prize, what would you do with it?!I'd treat S2Glow and the other Singaporean BW players when I go there some time next year. ^^ What will your predictions for the Ro8 be?Mewka 1:2 Wands Letalis 0:2 Rush S2Glow 2:1 Action I'll be cheering for Mewka though. What does your practice schedule look like and how are you preparing for your matches?Ideally it'd be wake up at 9am and play until 1am t.t but I don't have the time so just playing about 5 hours a week. I've been really fortunate that people were willing to practice with me. Zucrow, Toka, dRaW, Alec, Nazza, rainei, s2glow, sluggaslamoo and I'm sure I've forgotten some helped me practice for group stage and ro16. They were all patient enough to let me try the same build over and over again against different scenarios which really helped because you aren't startled by anything because you've already seen it in practice. Thanks for the interview and I wish you well in the remainder of the tournament! Any shout outs?!Shoutouts to harem, kjwcj, nazza, modesty, everyone who helped me practice, #nanashin people (nanashin, museun, theoddone33, kimoleon, purpl3, rainei, lastlie, entocheets, renjazu/lokk, chiwawa, loki, nalho, foxu, tusev, beta_male, kipsate, esseim, kama, quickstriker, ness...too many t.t) and everyone else. Also snipin_panda get better so we can play  Thanks Shimy and the sponsors/casters/organisers.  RuSh vs LETALis+ Show Spoiler [Matches and Results] ++ Show Spoiler [Interview with RuSh] +What's happening RuSh?Hi ! Im glad to be here. You made it out of your group stage in an epic tiebreaker and knocked out m4nu, how do you feel about your run so far?Haha, I was very lucky in my group stage. I actually thought I wouldn't proceed to next round after losing my first game to probe but then for other two games my b.o were counter to my opponents especially bbs vs 12 nexus . Also I got lucky in my first game vs m4nu because if he didn't cancel his gateway I would have lost. But playing these people in the tournament I feel I'm getting better and better so I feel happy and proud of myself Have you been scouting out LETALis?I haven't played him or seen his games yet. Right now, I have no clue what types of gamer he is and his play style. I'm trying to find some of his games and analyze his game styles. How do you prepare for your matches?I mostly play with my clanmates(from op [PaiN]). Lately, I also watched a lot of proleague games on the maps I'm playing on this tournaments. I think I am in good shape now If you make it to the finals, who would you like to face based solely on what would be the most exciting match to play/watch?It does not really matter since they all play protoss. For exciting matches I'd play wands because he is really gosu. Fold would be also fun to play with because I've seen his streams and he seems he's got a good game senses and play style. Your Ro8 predictions?It's really hard to predict because they are all very good. To pick, I'd say Wands, Fold, Action, and me (hopefully ). Thanks for the interview and good luck! Any shoutouts?Shoutouts to Bizzy[PaiN], M[PaiN], Michael[PaiN], and Bibiane[PaiN] who gave some great tips and helped me out with the tournament. Also special thank you for the organizers, casters, sponsors of this great tournament ASL!   S2Glow vs  Action+ Show Spoiler [Matches and Results] ++ Show Spoiler [Interview with Action] +Heyo Action! How's it going?Hey Shimy I'm doing fine also glad to be here! You just took out one of iFU's better up and coming players! How do you feel?I know iFU is a really strong team so I knew I wasn't going to win it very easily. But right now I feel happy and relieved that I actually managed to go to Ro8 How did you prepare for your match vs him?I practiced by playing aztec and desti against many interesting toss players. And the coaching/tips from LRM)Game really helped me improve on some of my weaknesses/concept. Do you think you can make it all the way? Who are you most worried about facing?I hope I can make it all the way lol, I mean it be nice . I already played against many of the qualifiers during the Laddering Stage, and RUSH/WALLACE is definitely going to be my hardest opponents. S2Glow is known for his interesting play. Are you confident in your ability to contend with the 3rd place finisher of the sGs C Ranks Open?I remember seeing some of S2Glow's games on the tournament, and I agree that his interesting style will not be easy to beat. But, I believe if I practice a lot, I can come out as a victor. Say you win the whole thing, what would you do with the prize money?Well I'm going to college this year so I'll probably save it to buy books or spend it on gas.. What are your Ro8 predictions?Wands, my fat clanmate Wallace(pvp gosu), rush  , and hopefully me Thanks so much for the interview and good luck in the Ro8! Any shout outs?First I want to shout out to all my OD Clanmates, Lion, Newbcrack, Wallace, Voo, photo, phoenixss, iplaystuff, Starke, Mech, Kitaro, Lee33, simeon, and others I forgot to mention lol , right now were going through a hard time, but I'm sure we'll be back on our feet soon. LRM)Game, for his great tips and coaching, and Volume[3S], for helping me play against really good C+ terran/zerg/protoss players. Quote- "Don't play hard, play smart"- LRM)Game ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/ZApeP.jpg) Tournament Rules+ Show Spoiler +
1) All players are subject to administrative discretion.
2) Bad manner directed towards fellow participants and/or ASL staff will result in a league ban.
3) All games must be played on the Fish server using either Mini Launcher or Chaoslauncher.
4) All replays have to be sent to NoiseASL@gmail.com.
5) If a player is experiencing an unplayable quantity of lag, they must leave the game before the two minute mark. Beyond this point, the player will be forced to play out the set.
6) Lag and IP conflicts will be handled on a case to case basis at the official's discretion.
7) If a player cannot play his match due to personal time issues, that player needs to contact ASL staff 72 hours beforehand and then their opponent 48 before their match to either PP the match or play early. Upon proof via screenshot of contact back and forth between player and opponent, the referee handling the case will then assign a date and time to be played, earlier or later than set time, at a time of mutual availability.
8) If a player does not show up within 15 minutes of the set game time, their opponent is given a W.O. victory. Technical issues not apply and are done case by case by ASL officials.
9) Any form of abuse during this stage of the tournament will result in a league ban.
10) Players may be required to surrender their IP addresses without any prior notice.
11) No spoiling of any results before the casts. Doing this may result in DQ of the tournament.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/8XMCE.jpg) The people that make this happen are truly the most amazing people in the Foreign Broodwar Community and they derserve some love! The biggest of thanks to NoisE, Nebopolis, and Sayle for supporting the ASL and furthering the scene.Total Prize Pool: $205
1st: $150
2nd: $40
3rd: $15![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/PiPk3.jpg) Sponsors: dM-Noise, Nebopolis, Sayle Organization: Shimy, Eywa, and LRM)Game Casters: L_Master and EleGant Staff and Crew :Quirinus, Pholon, CobaltBlu, LRM)nOoNe Graphics: Shiroiusagi
Important Links
L_Master'S Stream
EleGant's Stream
NoisE Amateur StarLeague Page
Announcement thread
Round of 16 Thread
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Poll: WandS vs Mewka?Mewka 2-1 (4) 33% WandS 2-0 (3) 25% WandS 2-1 (3) 25% Mewka 2-0 (2) 17% 12 total votes Your vote: WandS vs Mewka? (Vote): WandS 2-0
(Vote): WandS 2-1
(Vote): Mewka 2-0
(Vote): Mewka 2-1
Poll: Fold vs Wallace?Fold 2-1 (7) 32% Fold 2-0 (6) 27% Wallace 2-1 (6) 27% Wallace 2-0 (3) 14% 22 total votes Your vote: Fold vs Wallace? (Vote): Fold 2-0
(Vote): Fold 2-1
(Vote): Wallace 2-0
(Vote): Wallace 2-1
Poll: RuSh vs LETALis?RuSh 2-0 (7) 41% LETALis 2-0 (4) 24% RuSh 2-1 (3) 18% LETALis 2-1 (3) 18% 17 total votes Your vote: RuSh vs LETALis? (Vote): RuSh 2-0
(Vote): RuSh 2-1
(Vote): LETALis 2-0
(Vote): LETALis 2-1
Poll: S2Glow vs ActionAction 2-0 (9) 50% S2Glow 2-1 (6) 33% Action 2-1 (3) 17% S2Glow 2-0 (0) 0% 18 total votes Your vote: S2Glow vs Action (Vote): S2Glow 2-0
(Vote): S2Glow 2-1
(Vote): Action 2-0
(Vote): Action 2-1
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WandS, Fold, RuSh, S2Glow going to win their matches.
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fold fighting! Predicting a fold - RuSh final.
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United States210 Posts
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<3 Fold Fighting! Can't wait for your games!
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Wow, a lot of Fold fans! :D
POLLS ARE NOW UP! Vote for player and their score ^^
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wands, wallace, rush, action will make it. almost 100% sure
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action is too good for me but i wont let him win easily ^^!
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On May 29 2012 10:16 S2Glow wrote:action is too good for me but i wont let him win easily ^^!
I look forward to your match! You never disappoint ^^
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Nice interview Mewka! Best of luck~
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HOLY CRAP JUNE 3rd IS THIS SUNDAY!!! YARGG
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Show us some good games ;
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Rush, we both play TvP & PvT. I feel like playing protoss this time, if that is OK with you. Let's just come to an agreement so we can practice
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wands, wallace, Letalis, s2glow will make it  . 100% sure
WALLACE AND LETALIS <3
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On May 29 2012 17:57 Letalis wrote:Rush, we both play TvP & PvT. I feel like playing protoss this time, if that is OK with you. Let's just come to an agreement so we can practice
I'd also like to be notified via PM once you both come to an agreement.
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It will probably be a WandS/Wallace/Rush/Action semifinals.
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On May 30 2012 06:37 Shimy wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2012 17:57 Letalis wrote:Rush, we both play TvP & PvT. I feel like playing protoss this time, if that is OK with you. Let's just come to an agreement so we can practice I'd also like to be notified via PM once you both come to an agreement.
OK, so how can I msg Rush? He doesn't seem to be checking this thread and I need to know if I'll be playing PvT or TvP...
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Shimy I sent you a PM, Wallace agreed to change the timing to 2200KST/1500CET on Sunday.
Thanks for the support guys. ^^
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Gogo guys!
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Pumped. I really wanna get more into the foreign scene with the Korean scene in decline.
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Needs more interviews =P I want to get to know RuSh, Wallace, Letalis, and S2Glow better.
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@ LETAL
Hi sorry for late response.. You told me you wanted to do protoss this time right? You can do protoss if you want
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On May 31 2012 06:49 RusH[PaiN] wrote:
@ LETAL
Hi sorry for late response.. You told me you wanted to do protoss this time right? You can do protoss if you want
So be it! 
GL-HF
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On May 31 2012 06:49 RusH[PaiN] wrote:
@ LETAL
Hi sorry for late response.. You told me you wanted to do protoss this time right? You can do protoss if you want
RUSH HWAITING~~~
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RuSh mini-interview is now in the OP! Everyone go read it and don't miss the polls in the 2nd post of the thread!
GL!~
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On May 30 2012 20:05 fold wrote:
Shimy I sent you a PM, Wallace agreed to change the timing to 2200KST/1500CET on Sunday.
Thanks for the support guys. ^^
^How to be a baws.
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S2Glow I was wondering if we can play on Saturday at 2-3 EST
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On May 31 2012 08:01 action(OD) wrote:
S2Glow I was wondering if we can play on Saturday at 2-3 EST
Any update on this?
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On June 01 2012 10:25 Shimy wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2012 08:01 action(OD) wrote:
S2Glow I was wondering if we can play on Saturday at 2-3 EST Any update on this?
nope
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On June 01 2012 10:30 action(OD) wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2012 10:25 Shimy wrote:On May 31 2012 08:01 action(OD) wrote:
S2Glow I was wondering if we can play on Saturday at 2-3 EST Any update on this? nope
Is it impossible for you to play this Sunday at 1PM EST?
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On June 01 2012 11:19 Shimy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2012 10:30 action(OD) wrote:On June 01 2012 10:25 Shimy wrote:On May 31 2012 08:01 action(OD) wrote:
S2Glow I was wondering if we can play on Saturday at 2-3 EST Any update on this? nope Is it impossible for you to play this Sunday at 1PM EST?
Ehhh 50% ish because my boss might need me to come into work that day.
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On May 31 2012 08:01 action(OD) wrote:
S2Glow I was wondering if we can play on Saturday at 2-3 EST
play on sunday 12 am kst onwards till 3 am kst , can? o_o the best timing , i am very busy with work and stuff atm
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On June 01 2012 14:03 S2Glow wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2012 08:01 action(OD) wrote:
S2Glow I was wondering if we can play on Saturday at 2-3 EST play on sunday 12 am kst onwards till 3 am kst , can? o_o the best timing , i am very busy with work and stuff atm
is that 1 EST? ARGG I'm REALLY BAD WITH TIME CONVERSIONS
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On June 01 2012 14:42 action(OD) wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2012 14:03 S2Glow wrote:On May 31 2012 08:01 action(OD) wrote:
S2Glow I was wondering if we can play on Saturday at 2-3 EST play on sunday 12 am kst onwards till 3 am kst , can? o_o the best timing , i am very busy with work and stuff atm is that 1 EST? ARGG I'm REALLY BAD WITH TIME CONVERSIONS
Use the [time][/time] tag to do work for you:
[time]12 am kst[/time] - [time]3 am kst[/time]
turns into:
15:00 GMT (+00:00) - 18:00 GMT (+00:00)
Voila!
NOTE: you have to have the time setting set up to your local timezone in the profile settings for the conversion to work.
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thnx quirinus!! @S2Glow so Saturday is out of the question?
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On June 02 2012 05:50 action(OD) wrote:
thnx quirinus!! @S2Glow so Saturday is out of the question?
I'm guessing it is...
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sunday kst means your saturday. is 12 midnight i wrote 12am. so the match is in 2 hour and more
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it be nice if we can play on Wednesday, Friday, or Saturday but since your using the KST time and me EST we need to make sure we dont confuse each other
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someone please help me , i am bad at timing too , 00:00 kst = what est ?
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I'm not sure about that but still:
EST = UTC-5 hours
KST = UTC+9 hours
00:00 KST = 10:00 EST ? 
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On June 03 2012 17:45 Letalis wrote:I'm not sure about that but still: EST = UTC-5 hours KST = UTC+9 hours 00:00 KST = 10:00 EST ?
yea but usa does daylight savings so its 11
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Are we using the old (iCCup) version of Ground Zero or the new one that we can now see in Proleague? In the new version there's no high ground behind the natural, at least you can not drop units there and this is kinda important to me ;D
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Yea we need to get this time right
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00:00 KST = 15:00 GMT (+00:00) I guess...
EDIT:
I'm inclined to root for S2Glow since he's Zerg, but I must root for Letalis to win since he beat me. xD
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</3
Btw Shimny do we still need mods for us to play our game?
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Wallace our game is in an hour's time. See you there on fish.
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On June 03 2012 20:34 action(OD) wrote:</3 Btw Shimny do we still need mods for us to play our game?
Referees? Yes. There should be one there.
fish
op asl
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s2glow I can play right now if your on. Come op ASL @Fish
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On June 03 2012 18:32 Letalis wrote:
Are we using the old (iCCup) version of Ground Zero or the new one that we can now see in Proleague? In the new version there's no high ground behind the natural, at least you can not drop units there and this is kinda important to me ;D
The iCCup versions due to the majority of people having them.
On June 03 2012 20:34 action(OD) wrote:</3 Btw Shimny do we still need mods for us to play our game?
Quirinus shall be there ^^
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On June 03 2012 21:37 Shimy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2012 18:32 Letalis wrote:
Are we using the old (iCCup) version of Ground Zero or the new one that we can now see in Proleague? In the new version there's no high ground behind the natural, at least you can not drop units there and this is kinda important to me ;D The iCCup versions due to the majority of people having them.
I shouldn't let it come to a third game then 
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i am always on around this time! -2 or +2 , Action so lets make it this wednesday! :D
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Thanks to everyone for being so cooperative during their matches and also a huge thanks to Quirinus for being a BAWS!
I'd like a definite time and date on the Action vs S2Glow match please ^^
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I'm sorry, Im not too sure about Weds either, my parents are going on a business trip and I have to hold down their business. They want to go on Weds or Thursday and I'm trying to convince them to go on thur..
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okay action , confirm with me the date and time using CEST on teamliquid.
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Alrighty. Btw do you have skype? Because we can just play if we see each other online
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i dont really use skype. but ya skype >> kliveaw lol
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Okay want to play on 2 KST/1EST on Wednesday?
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okay deal 2kst see you there
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Cheering for Fold, but I hope everyone else kicks ass. GLHF!
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On June 05 2012 04:55 BisuDagger wrote:
Cheering for Fold, but I hope everyone else kicks ass. GLHF!
Fold has been quite a fan favorite this round! Be sure to tune in this Friday to see if he can take it against Wallace! ^^
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waiting in fish now. op asl
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HELLO is 2:13 KST RIGHT NOW. WHERE ARE YOUUUUUU T_T , if not imma gonna go off. is midnight right now yo
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On June 06 2012 02:14 S2Glow wrote:
HELLO is 2:13 KST RIGHT NOW. WHERE ARE YOUUUUUU T_T , if not imma gonna go off. is midnight right now yo
Isn't Wednesday tomorrow?
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I think action meant the next day~ ya what Quirinus just said - hmm just realized that it might actually be wednesday for S2Glow and that's why theres a mixup - wait a minute...is that even possible since KST is ahead of EST by 11 hours, and action said 2 KST/1 EST - so action is not using the 24 hour clock for both KST and EST since if its 2 KST then it has to be 13 EDT. Ah time zones are soo confusing..
So I think what action meant to say is Thursday for S2Glow at 2 am kst early early morning and Wednesday afternoon for action at 1pm est.
I could be totally wrong here so please don't use my words and screw up your schedule again S2Glow and action.
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On June 06 2012 02:49 w7s wrote:
I think action meant the next day~ ya what Quirinus just said - hmm just realized that it might actually be wednesday for S2Glow and that's why theres a mixup - so Thursday for S2Glow at 2 kst and Wednesday afternoon for action at 1pm est.
Yea. >.<
I guess [time][/time] isn't enough. [date][/date] should take care of it next time. I just hope this didn't screw up their scheduling. :<
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lol , if not using 24 hour why never state AM or PM -.- " , should said earlier , i am busy tmr 2PM kst cause i already have plans for my projects , so either make it 12~2am kst. :O
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On June 06 2012 03:59 S2Glow wrote:
lol , if not using 24 hour why never state AM or PM -.- " , should said earlier , i am busy tmr 2PM kst cause i already have plans for my projects , so either make it 12~2am kst. :O
Did action not want you to play at 2 am kst for you? I thought that's what he originally wanted since it would be 1 pm est time for him which is ideal.
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Ah sorry i screwed up but yea what everyone said was true I wanted to play on Weds 1EST PM but if you Want I can play couple hours earlier like 7 am EST here so 20 KST there tomorrow.
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is okay , 12~2kst. i will be there. dont go away on that timing okay. if not if shimy give me w-o idk =P
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Good luck both, hope Action wins. I love you man. So proud of you, show your Terran might and crush some Zerg as you usually do, OD ftw!
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goign to on soon yo. op asl !
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Good luck s2glow. Fighting!
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On June 07 2012 03:08 S2Glow wrote:
gg ! wp^^
gg!
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THE ROUND OF EIGHT CAST IS TOMORROW
Be sure to tune in at 20 CET at EleGant.Tv to watch these epic matchups!
Poll: Best match?WandS vs Mewka (3) 43% Action vs S2Glow (2) 29% RuSh vs LETALis (1) 14% Wallace vs Fold (1) 14% 7 total votes Your vote: Best match? (Vote): RuSh vs LETALis
(Vote): WandS vs Mewka
(Vote): Action vs S2Glow
(Vote): Wallace vs Fold
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most excited about: Wands vs Mewka, Fold vs Wallace, Rush vs Letalis and S2glow vs Action
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On June 08 2012 08:51 Stratos wrote:
most excited about: Wands vs Mewka, Fold vs Wallace, Rush vs Letalis and S2glow vs Action
Haha! Me too
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funny how the game is not even started and theres people voting haha
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It's a poll about which match we're most looking forward to .)
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United Kingdom1683 Posts
Oh dear- I don't see the event on the calendar...
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Ok, congrats to all that made it! I have a couple of questions though and I want to make it publicly. I'm asking directly Wands and Rush for aka's before ASL, pm me or do it here, I want your iccup accounts you played with before this league. I didn't knew either of you before you signed up for this, never heard of Wands or Rush. So if you guys can please do that. And btw Shimy Wands made B- on both his Wands acc and his ASL.Wands acc last season. He said he is still allowed to play in this if it was made during the tourney and I take his words for it. I want to point out something interesting though, I happened to play like 6-7 games with him about a week ago where I remember winning only one and getting absolutely crushed and dominated by him. I am a C+ player that can beat often B rank players on ladder. I don't feel a C level player can live up to the challenge to completely own me and not be B rank for a long period of time. That is just a thought, but lets say thats true, OK. What about Rush ? He dropped only 1 game so far in the group stages playing the hardest race - Terran. Rush, who's rush ? Anyone heard of Rush before ? Where does he play, does he have a team ? He is completely dominating everyone playing solid B terran, for that IM SURE! So I gues my last question goes to Shimy since they are both canadians and he is canadian himself. Is this all for the 1st and 2cond prize money or am I mistaking here ? Answer with honesty if you are a man, if not, lie to all of us here, it doesn't matter, because that was not a fair league it seems. Though its most likely that me and action will lose in the semis we are going to give them a run for their money, whoever these players are.
PS Shimy I thought you were a cool guy, but its clear why you host this league now.
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United Kingdom1683 Posts
On June 09 2012 05:37 BulgarianToss wrote:
Ok, congrats to all that made it! I have a couple of questions though and I want to make it publicly. I'm asking directly Wands and Rush for aka's before ASL, pm me or do it here, I want your iccup accounts you played with before this league. I didn't knew either of you before you signed up for this, never heard of Wands or Rush. So if you guys can please do that. And btw Shimy Wands made B- on both his Wands acc and his ASL.Wands acc last season. He said he is still allowed to play in this if it was made during the tourney and I take his words for it. I want to point out something interesting though, I happened to play like 6-7 games with him about a week ago where I remember winning only one and getting absolutely crushed and dominated by him. I am a C+ player that can beat often B rank players on ladder. I don't feel a C level player can live up to the challenge to completely own me and not be B rank for a long period of time. That is just a thought, but lets say thats true, OK. What about Rush ? He dropped only 1 game so far in the group stages playing the hardest race - Terran. Rush, who's rush ? Anyone heard of Rush before ? Where does he play, does he have a team ? He is completely dominating everyone playing solid B terran, for that IM SURE! So I gues my last question goes to Shimy since they are both canadians and he is canadian himself. Is this all for the 1st and 2cond prize money or am I mistaking here ? Answer with honesty if you are a man, if not, lie to all of us here, it doesn't matter, because that was not a fair league it seems. Though its most likely that me and action will lose in the semis we are going to give them a run for their money, whoever these players are.
PS Shimy I thought you were a cool guy, but its clear why you host this league now.
Now really, you're entitled to ask any questions you like, but calling out Shimy and basically calling him corrupt isn't cool :/
I hope you rethink once you get what I'm sure will be a well mannered, and thorough response.
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On June 09 2012 05:37 BulgarianToss wrote:
Ok, congrats to all that made it! I have a couple of questions though and I want to make it publicly. I'm asking directly Wands and Rush for aka's before ASL, pm me or do it here, I want your iccup accounts you played with before this league. I didn't knew either of you before you signed up for this, never heard of Wands or Rush. So if you guys can please do that. And btw Shimy Wands made B- on both his Wands acc and his ASL.Wands acc last season. He said he is still allowed to play in this if it was made during the tourney and I take his words for it. I want to point out something interesting though, I happened to play like 6-7 games with him about a week ago where I remember winning only one and getting absolutely crushed and dominated by him. I am a C+ player that can beat often B rank players on ladder. I don't feel a C level player can live up to the challenge to completely own me and not be B rank for a long period of time. That is just a thought, but lets say thats true, OK. What about Rush ? He dropped only 1 game so far in the group stages playing the hardest race - Terran. Rush, who's rush ? Anyone heard of Rush before ? Where does he play, does he have a team ? He is completely dominating everyone playing solid B terran, for that IM SURE! So I gues my last question goes to Shimy since they are both canadians and he is canadian himself. Is this all for the 1st and 2cond prize money or am I mistaking here ? Answer with honesty if you are a man, if not, lie to all of us here, it doesn't matter, because that was not a fair league it seems. Though its most likely that me and action will lose in the semis we are going to give them a run for their money, whoever these players are.
PS Shimy I thought you were a cool guy, but its clear why you host this league now.
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I can only speak for myself and what I have witnessed since I don't really know anything about Rush or Shimy either. If you missed my blog that I posted way back in the ASL Group stages in late April http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=331986 it explains my background information. So first please read that blog post first if you haven't read it and then read this post.
To continue further from my blog since it has been a month and half now - I have been training full force since then. Add my 500 games that I played in April and now add another 700 games since then. Also I have been analyzing my own replays and I also talk strategy with others. You could track all my games through my WandS account on iccup and Fish, ASL-WandS on iccup, BOSS.WandS on iccup, 2 smurfs on iccup, and 1 smurf on Fish that I'd still like to keep it a secret. The 3 smurfs have all been made after the ladder stage of the ASL since I did not want to leak any information to my opponents for future stages in the ASL.
To answer your question on why I think I beat you that time just the day before our ASL ro8 games. I prepared very well in preparation for Mewka and knowing beforehand that it would be another PvP in the semifinals – I was able to heavily practice in the PvP matchup for the last 3 weeks right after the games were broadcasted for the Ro16. My university school term ended since mid April, therefore giving me much more free time than you, since I think I read that you had exams that were in the way of your games with Lumire to reschedule. My practice regimen consisted of majority of PvP games on the maps that were set. Also I am very fortunate that Protoss players that were above my skill were able to help me train and give me a lot of pointers that I feel elevated my game to a new level in the specific matchup.
Okay now on the part of what I know about RusH and Shimy through my own eyes. The 1st time I met Rush was when I played him in the ASL ladder stage I think midway of the season. Since it said he was from CA (Canada) - I am a very curious person so I wanted to know where in Canada he lived and shockingly he lives in the same city and this may seem too good to be true but I swear that I had no clue that he lived here or even know that there was other Brood war players in this small city since it’s not a major city in Canada and also the fact that Brood war players are extinct nowadays. Well to be fair, I am fairly new in this city since I just attend University in this city and go back home in another city for the summer which has been going on for the last 3 years, with the exception of this summer where I am staying in this city. So naturally I was more curious since after discovering he lives in the same proximity as me and the disbelief that there is another Brood War player – I spat out more questions like, what school do you go to? how old? male/female? etc. We played a couple of PvZ games where I won convincingly and felt that he would be no threat in the ASL tournament. Now fast forward today and he is beating players left and right with ease with another race altogether and I too was concerned and even questioned his eligibility. But I trust the staff and if they say Rush is eligible – then I can be happy knowing it’s a fair tournament and practice as much as possible and hope for the best.
Now onto Shimy – I first talked to Shimy when he wanted to do an interview on Day #6 since I climbed the #1 spot in the ladder stage. At the time I thought Shimy was just a regular admin snooping in the ASL channel, but soon after I found out he was the organizer. Since I got top 6 in the ladder stage, I was entitled to choose the players in my group with the other top 6 players. In order to do this smoothly – Shimy and I exchanged skype user names and Shimy made a chat room with the rest of the top 6. So now since I have Shimy as a friend on skype and since he’s a nice guy – he would sometimes give me a heart-warming ‘good luck’ before my match. A week ago I asked Shimy if he wanted to be a manager for BOSS since I felt Shimy is a great promoter and would be a great fit for a great manager for the BOSS team – due to him organizing the ASL tournament and treating everyone with courtesy, so I asked KisS (leader of BOSS) if he was interested in Shimy, so Shimy and KisS had a 1 on1 conversation between each other, but it didn’t work out since Shimy is busy with other obligations within the Brood war community and just busy with life in general. Other than that there is nothing else between us.
If you knew me well enough – I would never personally want to take advantage or hurt anyone. But now I realized I have hurt some people due to me widening the gap in skills between myself and the other ASL players by dedicating too much time to practice. So I am now stuck in a bind since I feel I did not break any rules for the ASL league – but I feel bad for the ASL players that did not have as much time as I did to practice or did not receive the same treatment that I got from other players to help me.
I hope I answered most of your questions and if you have any other questions for me – let me know.
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On June 09 2012 05:37 BulgarianToss wrote:
Ok, congrats to all that made it! I have a couple of questions though and I want to make it publicly. I'm asking directly Wands and Rush for aka's before ASL, pm me or do it here, I want your iccup accounts you played with before this league. I didn't knew either of you before you signed up for this, never heard of Wands or Rush. So if you guys can please do that. And btw Shimy Wands made B- on both his Wands acc and his ASL.Wands acc last season. He said he is still allowed to play in this if it was made during the tourney and I take his words for it. I want to point out something interesting though, I happened to play like 6-7 games with him about a week ago where I remember winning only one and getting absolutely crushed and dominated by him. I am a C+ player that can beat often B rank players on ladder. I don't feel a C level player can live up to the challenge to completely own me and not be B rank for a long period of time. That is just a thought, but lets say thats true, OK. What about Rush ? He dropped only 1 game so far in the group stages playing the hardest race - Terran. Rush, who's rush ? Anyone heard of Rush before ? Where does he play, does he have a team ? He is completely dominating everyone playing solid B terran, for that IM SURE! So I gues my last question goes to Shimy since they are both canadians and he is canadian himself. Is this all for the 1st and 2cond prize money or am I mistaking here ? Answer with honesty if you are a man, if not, lie to all of us here, it doesn't matter, because that was not a fair league it seems. Though its most likely that me and action will lose in the semis we are going to give them a run for their money, whoever these players are.
PS Shimy I thought you were a cool guy, but its clear why you host this league now.
First off, I'm aware of WandS B- accounts. I've stated this, along with Eywa-, that after the beginning of the tournament, players are encouraged to improve as much as possible. After the ASL got rolling, the improvements of these players were definite. WandS achieving B- is the best feeling I have gotten from this tournament. That was my goal! To help the C rankers improve and give them something to play for :D It's not like he just got that because he was that gosu to begin with though!
WandS has literally played thousands of games since the beginning of the ASL. I see him on Fish when I get on at least 3-4 times a week. He plays this game. You have even stated yourself that you do not practice as much as you'd like and then you go and call out RuSh and WandS for being too good? I'm sorry, but they didn't get good because they sat around and never played BW during the course of this tournament. They WANT this money. I've talked to both of them, and I know that they train hard for it. I respect them so much for that too
As for RuSh, he's on [PaiN] and was formally on SL].. . He's played mostly on Fish achieving 1089 or something like that. He's such a nice guy and I too have him on skype and talk to him. I respect him and know for a fact that he wasn't B at the start of this tournament and is not B now (No offense to RuSh).
Also, I'm not Canadian O_o I don't know where you got that, but everyone can vouch for that lol Eywa is Canadian and maybe that's where you got that from, but I'm as American as you can get ;D And even then, bias race and nationality is stupid. I don't know a single person who does that o,o
The prize distribution is not ideal and I know this. It was stated as that at the release of the tourney.
Now, finally, this statement is what I hate the most about your post
Though its most likely that me and action will lose in the semis we are going to give them a run for their money, whoever these players are.
Do.Not.Talk.Like. That. I feel so bad that you don't think about yourself as a good player or have confidence! Did you not see Fold beat WandS in PvP in the group stages? Also, don't speak for your teammate like that! Did you see his sheer dominance against S2Glow?(No offense to S2Glow, they were epic games imo ;D)
They are practicing for you guys, so maybe you should practice for them! I really like you Wallace and I'm disappointed that you don't like me, but don't make excuses and please don't accuse me of things that I would clearly never do. Best of luck to you in the Semifinals.
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On June 09 2012 01:54 ImbaTosS wrote:
Oh dear- I don't see the event on the calendar...
I swear I got a confirmation of it o_o
Original Message From TL.net Bot:
Your event was approved and is now listed on the TL calendar. Please make sure to associate a stream with your event once it is live. Events that are listed without streams may be removed prematurely.
I wasn't here due to being called in to work on super short notice TT
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On June 09 2012 09:28 Shimy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2012 01:54 ImbaTosS wrote:
Oh dear- I don't see the event on the calendar... I swear I got a confirmation of it o_o Show nested quote +Original Message From TL.net Bot:
Your event was approved and is now listed on the TL calendar. Please make sure to associate a stream with your event once it is live. Events that are listed without streams may be removed prematurely. I wasn't here due to being called in to work on super short notice TT
It was on the calendar, Mr. Canadian.
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On June 09 2012 09:34 Harem wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2012 09:28 Shimy wrote:On June 09 2012 01:54 ImbaTosS wrote:
Oh dear- I don't see the event on the calendar... I swear I got a confirmation of it o_o Original Message From TL.net Bot:
Your event was approved and is now listed on the TL calendar. Please make sure to associate a stream with your event once it is live. Events that are listed without streams may be removed prematurely. I wasn't here due to being called in to work on super short notice TT It was on the calendar, Mr. Canadian.
Don't egg it on And thanks! I wasn't sure haha Maybe EleGant just didn't see it at first.
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I didn't see it either, I had BW events only and tried enabling both Others and SC2 to no avail.
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On June 09 2012 05:37 BulgarianToss wrote:
Ok, congrats to all that made it! I have a couple of questions though and I want to make it publicly. I'm asking directly Wands and Rush for aka's before ASL, pm me or do it here, I want your iccup accounts you played with before this league. I didn't knew either of you before you signed up for this, never heard of Wands or Rush. So if you guys can please do that. And btw Shimy Wands made B- on both his Wands acc and his ASL.Wands acc last season. He said he is still allowed to play in this if it was made during the tourney and I take his words for it. I want to point out something interesting though, I happened to play like 6-7 games with him about a week ago where I remember winning only one and getting absolutely crushed and dominated by him. I am a C+ player that can beat often B rank players on ladder. I don't feel a C level player can live up to the challenge to completely own me and not be B rank for a long period of time. That is just a thought, but lets say thats true, OK. What about Rush ? He dropped only 1 game so far in the group stages playing the hardest race - Terran. Rush, who's rush ? Anyone heard of Rush before ? Where does he play, does he have a team ? He is completely dominating everyone playing solid B terran, for that IM SURE! So I gues my last question goes to Shimy since they are both canadians and he is canadian himself. Is this all for the 1st and 2cond prize money or am I mistaking here ? Answer with honesty if you are a man, if not, lie to all of us here, it doesn't matter, because that was not a fair league it seems. Though its most likely that me and action will lose in the semis we are going to give them a run for their money, whoever these players are.
PS Shimy I thought you were a cool guy, but its clear why you host this league now.
You can't be serious..
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United Kingdom1683 Posts
I knew Shimy would straighten this out easily . Wands, your performance in the tournament proves it as a success, and a worthwhile endeavor. Driving improvement is exactly what this was meant to do, and you have risen to the challenge. I hope to be casting you more in future, in a variety of tournaments, where your attitude to the game will allow you to challenge the best.
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On June 09 2012 08:16 w7s wrote:
We played a couple of PvZ games where I won convincingly and felt that he would be no threat in the ASL tournament. Now fast forward today and he is beating players left and right with ease with another race altogether and I too was concerned and even questioned his eligibility. But I trust the staff and if they say Rush is eligible – then I can be happy knowing it’s a fair tournament and practice as much as possible and hope for the best.
Sounds legit
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Ok, Wands I read your blog, read your post here, as well as Shimy's post and I gues I was obviously wrong about everything then. I want to apologize to you all for this, the only reason I wrote this was because I really had no clue and was suspicious what was going on since I never knew Rush and Wands before this league. But now everything cleared up and I gues the only thing I can do is congratulate you both for playing so much and dedicating yourself in order to get better. I never knew how to do that and I respect it. And Shimy you are right, you are american, I just saw, I got confused about that as well. I apologize big time to you too, because you did awesome job with this league actually and I personally think you are a great person. I ask you all to disregard my post, it is irrelevant now. I just hope we can put off a great show in the semis and I will try my best. I want to be fair here, not giving excuses, I never do that, but Wands, I won't be able to prepare well for our games at all. I barely played PvP last week and right now I am moving out from my university accommodation so this will occupy me until our games basically. I just hope I have good internet connection since I am moving to my sister's place for some time until I fly back to Bulgaria. Anyways, again, that is no excuse and I will give it my best shot so keep it up. My apologies again, take care! glhf
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On June 09 2012 21:11 BulgarianToss wrote:
Ok, Wands I read your blog, read your post here, as well as Shimy's post and I gues I was obviously wrong about everything then. I want to apologize to you all for this, the only reason I wrote this was because I really had no clue and was suspicious what was going on since I never knew Rush and Wands before this league. But now everything cleared up and I gues the only thing I can do is congratulate you both for playing so much and dedicating yourself in order to get better. I never knew how to do that and I respect it. And Shimy you are right, you are american, I just saw, I got confused about that as well. I apologize big time to you too, because you did awesome job with this league actually and I personally think you are a great person. I ask you all to disregard my post, it is irrelevant now. I just hope we can put off a great show in the semis and I will try my best. I want to be fair here, not giving excuses, I never do that, but Wands, I won't be able to prepare well for our games at all. I barely played PvP last week and right now I am moving out from my university accommodation so this will occupy me until our games basically. I just hope I have good internet connection since I am moving to my sister's place for some time until I fly back to Bulgaria. Anyways, again, that is no excuse and I will give it my best shot so keep it up. My apologies again, take care! glhf
No hard feelings Wallace - it's great that you voiced your opinion rather than not say a word which most people would do in this situation.
Good luck in the semis~
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