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Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
December 24 2011 06:18 GMT
#521
On December 24 2011 15:17 X10A wrote:
3 dropship drop in the main of Baby
Leta is losing his 4th, but Baby is cleaning up this drop relatively well
1nat being taken now by Baby
Leta trying to push out, but is taking alot of shots
Supplys are equalizing
CC takes alot of hits from the turrets at 9 oclock, but lands without burning


thanks for the LR!
S-Class
Profile Joined November 2011
Korea (North)665 Posts
December 24 2011 06:18 GMT
#522
This can end before tier 3. Baby should just hold and watch for raids and expo like crazy
Gara
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada435 Posts
December 24 2011 06:19 GMT
#523
Wow, Leta is clawing his way back into this game...
S-Class
Profile Joined November 2011
Korea (North)665 Posts
December 24 2011 06:19 GMT
#524
Vulture raid favor returned by Leta
X10A
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada9837 Posts
December 24 2011 06:19 GMT
#525
Leta clears out the top portion of Baby's seige line with speed vultures, spider mines and tanks
0-1 for Baby, loses a tank to a mine
Vultures are in the 1 nat taking out lots of scvs, 1 main is being cleared out too
Leta finally has a supply lead in the game
CJ/T8 Fighting//#1 STX and Bisu anti <3//YES X10A is based off the Freedom Gundam
kuroshiroi
Profile Joined November 2010
3149 Posts
December 24 2011 06:19 GMT
#526
I think Baby may have overexpanded.
Fly Jaedong, fly!
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
December 24 2011 06:19 GMT
#527
baby has the map control but i feel like leta is about to bust out
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium4730 Posts
December 24 2011 06:19 GMT
#528
On December 24 2011 15:09 oBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2011 15:07 kuroshiroi wrote:
On December 24 2011 15:04 Harem wrote:
On December 24 2011 14:57 kuroshiroi wrote:
On December 24 2011 14:54 Harem wrote:
On December 24 2011 14:52 kuroshiroi wrote:
On December 24 2011 14:51 Uldridge wrote:
On December 24 2011 14:48 kingalexxx wrote:
On December 24 2011 14:44 Navi wrote:
idk why people think JD was being greedy
snow just hit at the perfect time ( as the lurkers were being morphed and right before his observers formed)
and won because of it
if he tried to wait for his obs, he couldn't have gotten past those lurkers and sunkens and would have been overwhelmed by jd's macro
but he crushed

Exactly this ^
I wouldn't say Jaedong played a bad game. It's just that Snow was really on his game today. First the DT, then chipping away the mutas' hp with sair/archon and then finally a well-timed push into Jaedong's expansion. Snow once again showed us his impressive PvZ just like he did during the bo5 against Jaedong in the MSL.


Oh, and obviously you missed the fact that he completely did not make any units and went for the 4th base practically right after he had taken his 3rd.

And mutas! Only mutas doesn't work against competent P players. Unless it's a muta rush or something.

......

You can't be serious.

It's a trend in JD's game. Mutas and early fourths kill him. All the time.

No, it's decision-making and mis-reads that kills him. Also, over-aggression. (See JD vs Snow on Circuit for example when he doesn't even open "muta" or "6hat")

Not early 4th, mutas, greed whatever you want to call it.

What? That's semantics at best. His decision making is leading him to doing mutas and early 4ths and no units.

There's a difference between a unit or strategy being categorically wrong and there being a fault with the player that makes him systematically use strategies in the wrong situations.


I understand, but how is it a misread when he opts for the same build every single time he plays a P? Albeit the P goes for the standard build.
He has the assumption he'll be able to deal with it by only making mutas and a handful of lings when that is only barely possible.
This isn't meant to discredit Snow ofcourse. He did an excellent job of dismantling Jaedong, at the right time, or he would've had an extremely hard time to win the game.
Taxes are for Terrans
mnesthes
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
5433 Posts
December 24 2011 06:19 GMT
#529
However Vultures from Leta raids the unprotected upper right expos of Baby and kill lots of SCVs!
<+LighTofHeaveN> Ppl call this "Indigo Children"
o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
December 24 2011 06:20 GMT
#530
shin sang moon sending a lot of vultures to 1:30 and the nat there that baby ALSO has, he has to evacuate scvs from BOTH bases but wraiths are able to take out the vultures. baby now has map control and is up a lot of bases but leta is ahead in supply and pushing a tank line near the top-left corner. cloaked wraiths for baby doing damage as leta appears to be OUT of scans, and leta is WAY TOO RICH RIGHT NOW with a 25 supply disadvantage and 2000/1000 in resources approx.
X10A
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada9837 Posts
December 24 2011 06:20 GMT
#531
Leta loses a pod of about 3 tanks in one hit
Wraiths take out the last goliath, but more are coming to enforce
Wraiths are weakening the tank line at the moment, but get pushed back
0-2 for both players
CJ/T8 Fighting//#1 STX and Bisu anti <3//YES X10A is based off the Freedom Gundam
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
December 24 2011 06:20 GMT
#532
the supply lead is swapping back and forth.... pretty tense!
Hey! Listen!
mnesthes
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
5433 Posts
December 24 2011 06:20 GMT
#533
Baby is playing this game really well. Slowly and slowly starving Leta to death.
<+LighTofHeaveN> Ppl call this "Indigo Children"
S-Class
Profile Joined November 2011
Korea (North)665 Posts
December 24 2011 06:21 GMT
#534
Baby forces a 75% - 25% map split... for now
Gara
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada435 Posts
December 24 2011 06:21 GMT
#535
Leta preparing for a bust in the bottom middle?
o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
December 24 2011 06:21 GMT
#536
leta now safely has 9:00 and is building another cc there. mains are mined out, nats are getting there. baby's tank line in teh top-left survived so he still controls the right and top halves of the map and half of the bottom half. leta is pushing tanks midmap and takes out a couple of baby's
X10A
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada9837 Posts
December 24 2011 06:21 GMT
#537
Lots of scvs being transfered to the 9 oclock
4th CC at the 9 oclock constructing
Leta inching out with his forces, but he has to be weary of Baby's air force
CJ/T8 Fighting//#1 STX and Bisu anti <3//YES X10A is based off the Freedom Gundam
o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
December 24 2011 06:22 GMT
#538
so just so it's clear to those who can't watch the base situation right now is:
leta is mining from his nat around 8:00, from 7:00, and from 9:00

baby is mining from 1:30, 2:00, 3:00, his nat, and 5:00
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States5519 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-24 06:23:02
December 24 2011 06:22 GMT
#539
Bad engagement by Leta trying to even the game to a 50/50 map split. He just walked into the tank killzone and sacrificed a bunch of goliaths without getting his tanks in a good range as compensation.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
S-Class
Profile Joined November 2011
Korea (North)665 Posts
December 24 2011 06:22 GMT
#540
THere is no way for Baby to lose this. Just force Leta to be aggresive in order to get expo and trade units, until Leta is out of resources
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