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X10A
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada9837 Posts
December 24 2011 06:06 GMT
#461
Both players engage, both cloak
Leta drops his rax and FIREBAT in the mineral line
Didn't he do this vs ssak or someone?
Leta picks off one of Baby's wraiths
3 wraiths in the mineral line
Firebat doing damage
Baby picks off one wraith,3 left for Leta,
CJ/T8 Fighting//#1 STX and Bisu anti <3//YES X10A is based off the Freedom Gundam
mnesthes
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
5433 Posts
December 24 2011 06:06 GMT
#462
Actually it's not that bad for Baby? He has an expo now
<+LighTofHeaveN> Ppl call this "Indigo Children"
o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
December 24 2011 06:06 GMT
#463
leta cloaks in baby's base and takes out a wraith. baby gets another wraith out and cloaks, he's got the better mana on his comsat. his nat is up. baby loses a couple wraiths and leta has the obvious wraith advantage now. not sure what the status is on leta's nat
o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
December 24 2011 06:06 GMT
#464
we see that the nat cc just started in leta's main
mnesthes
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
5433 Posts
December 24 2011 06:06 GMT
#465
On December 24 2011 15:06 o[twist] wrote:
leta cloaks in baby's base and takes out a wraith. baby gets another wraith out and cloaks, he's got the better mana on his comsat. his nat is up. baby loses a couple wraiths and leta has the obvious wraith advantage now. not sure what the status is on leta's nat
He only starts building a CC in his main now
<+LighTofHeaveN> Ppl call this "Indigo Children"
X10A
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada9837 Posts
December 24 2011 06:07 GMT
#466
Battle of the wraiths
Rax finally goes down
Baby has a goliath out, and armory too
CC just now starting for Leta, Baby's has been mining for a few minutes now
CJ/T8 Fighting//#1 STX and Bisu anti <3//YES X10A is based off the Freedom Gundam
oldfartz
Profile Joined October 2011
Philippines117 Posts
December 24 2011 06:07 GMT
#467
Baby please win this.
o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
December 24 2011 06:07 GMT
#468
goliaths coming out for baby now and a second comsat is up, this might end up okay for him. he is only down 42/42 to 39/52 in supply.
kuroshiroi
Profile Joined November 2010
3149 Posts
December 24 2011 06:07 GMT
#469
On December 24 2011 15:04 Harem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2011 14:57 kuroshiroi wrote:
On December 24 2011 14:54 Harem wrote:
On December 24 2011 14:52 kuroshiroi wrote:
On December 24 2011 14:51 Uldridge wrote:
On December 24 2011 14:48 kingalexxx wrote:
On December 24 2011 14:44 Navi wrote:
idk why people think JD was being greedy
snow just hit at the perfect time ( as the lurkers were being morphed and right before his observers formed)
and won because of it
if he tried to wait for his obs, he couldn't have gotten past those lurkers and sunkens and would have been overwhelmed by jd's macro
but he crushed

Exactly this ^
I wouldn't say Jaedong played a bad game. It's just that Snow was really on his game today. First the DT, then chipping away the mutas' hp with sair/archon and then finally a well-timed push into Jaedong's expansion. Snow once again showed us his impressive PvZ just like he did during the bo5 against Jaedong in the MSL.


Oh, and obviously you missed the fact that he completely did not make any units and went for the 4th base practically right after he had taken his 3rd.

And mutas! Only mutas doesn't work against competent P players. Unless it's a muta rush or something.

......

You can't be serious.

It's a trend in JD's game. Mutas and early fourths kill him. All the time.

No, it's decision-making and mis-reads that kills him. Also, over-aggression. (See JD vs Snow on Circuit for example when he doesn't even open "muta" or "6hat")

Not early 4th, mutas, greed whatever you want to call it.

What? That's semantics at best. His decision making is leading him to doing mutas and early 4ths and no units.
Fly Jaedong, fly!
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5226 Posts
December 24 2011 06:07 GMT
#470
Baby in a great position.
Taxes are for Terrans
X10A
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada9837 Posts
December 24 2011 06:07 GMT
#471
Continued wraith production from Baby
Nothing from Leta, lifts the one without add on closer towards the other
Valkyrie for Baby
Supply favoring Baby 49-44
CJ/T8 Fighting//#1 STX and Bisu anti <3//YES X10A is based off the Freedom Gundam
S-Class
Profile Joined November 2011
Korea (North)665 Posts
December 24 2011 06:08 GMT
#472
Baby's composition is so reactive.
But it can allow him better transition midgame
Abort Retry Fail
Profile Joined December 2011
2636 Posts
December 24 2011 06:08 GMT
#473
6 red wraiths
BSOD
o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
December 24 2011 06:08 GMT
#474
and a valkyrie is out for baby and he appears to have equalized rather. and is in fact up in supply now as leta is still finishing his cc. maybe leta was too aggressive with his wraiths, baby appeared to be quicker to tech and expand both and was able to get out of losing too much with cloaking and comsatting
mnesthes
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
5433 Posts
December 24 2011 06:08 GMT
#475
SCV gets to the rax in time :O
<+LighTofHeaveN> Ppl call this "Indigo Children"
X10A
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada9837 Posts
December 24 2011 06:09 GMT
#476
Two valkyries, in the air force, aswell a second fact for Baby
Rax barely has enough health to be repaired
Leta starts to produce an air force again
2nd fact from him now, he has seige mode researched
CJ/T8 Fighting//#1 STX and Bisu anti <3//YES X10A is based off the Freedom Gundam
o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
December 24 2011 06:09 GMT
#477
baby has a second starport now and is building from two factories and two starports. leta is making a few more factories, both have tanks and decent-sized fleets
kingalexxx
Profile Joined January 2011
United States273 Posts
December 24 2011 06:09 GMT
#478
the scv is pushing the barracks hahaha
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States6535 Posts
December 24 2011 06:09 GMT
#479
On December 24 2011 15:07 kuroshiroi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2011 15:04 Harem wrote:
On December 24 2011 14:57 kuroshiroi wrote:
On December 24 2011 14:54 Harem wrote:
On December 24 2011 14:52 kuroshiroi wrote:
On December 24 2011 14:51 Uldridge wrote:
On December 24 2011 14:48 kingalexxx wrote:
On December 24 2011 14:44 Navi wrote:
idk why people think JD was being greedy
snow just hit at the perfect time ( as the lurkers were being morphed and right before his observers formed)
and won because of it
if he tried to wait for his obs, he couldn't have gotten past those lurkers and sunkens and would have been overwhelmed by jd's macro
but he crushed

Exactly this ^
I wouldn't say Jaedong played a bad game. It's just that Snow was really on his game today. First the DT, then chipping away the mutas' hp with sair/archon and then finally a well-timed push into Jaedong's expansion. Snow once again showed us his impressive PvZ just like he did during the bo5 against Jaedong in the MSL.


Oh, and obviously you missed the fact that he completely did not make any units and went for the 4th base practically right after he had taken his 3rd.

And mutas! Only mutas doesn't work against competent P players. Unless it's a muta rush or something.

......

You can't be serious.

It's a trend in JD's game. Mutas and early fourths kill him. All the time.

No, it's decision-making and mis-reads that kills him. Also, over-aggression. (See JD vs Snow on Circuit for example when he doesn't even open "muta" or "6hat")

Not early 4th, mutas, greed whatever you want to call it.

What? That's semantics at best. His decision making is leading him to doing mutas and early 4ths and no units.

There's a difference between a unit or strategy being categorically wrong and there being a fault with the player that makes him systematically use strategies in the wrong situations.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
mnesthes
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
5433 Posts
December 24 2011 06:09 GMT
#480
Hahaha SCV-draggin' Barracks
<+LighTofHeaveN> Ppl call this "Indigo Children"
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