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o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
December 24 2011 05:54 GMT
#381
On December 24 2011 14:53 Navi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2011 14:51 Uldridge wrote:
On December 24 2011 14:48 kingalexxx wrote:
On December 24 2011 14:44 Navi wrote:
idk why people think JD was being greedy
snow just hit at the perfect time ( as the lurkers were being morphed and right before his observers formed)
and won because of it
if he tried to wait for his obs, he couldn't have gotten past those lurkers and sunkens and would have been overwhelmed by jd's macro
but he crushed

Exactly this ^
I wouldn't say Jaedong played a bad game. It's just that Snow was really on his game today. First the DT, then chipping away the mutas' hp with sair/archon and then finally a well-timed push into Jaedong's expansion. Snow once again showed us his impressive PvZ just like he did during the bo5 against Jaedong in the MSL.


Oh, and obviously you missed the fact that he completely did not make any units and went for the 4th base practically right after he had taken his 3rd.


he had 5 lurkers morphing, 10-20 lings, and muta and scourge
zerg is weak at that timing regardless of what build you do
if you go 5hatch hydra, you are weak when they have templar / archon out (that timing)
if you go early lurkers, they get obs and goons and at that point just overwhelm you with mass goons
if you go pure muta, well lol
snow took a good timing. hard to argue vs


i just don't think this is a full exposition of what went on. zerg is NOT generally weak vP. of course there are tough timings but there's no reason that jaedong should have had to defend his 6:00 with drones against a very normal zealot/archon into dragoon/ht/zeal/archon attack
Motivate
Profile Joined June 2011
2860 Posts
December 24 2011 05:54 GMT
#382
On December 24 2011 14:53 DarkMatter_ wrote:
Ugh Baby vs T. We're screwed. Hydra/Sea/Jaehoon are going to have a tough time beating Effort/Hydra. We really needed Baby to snipe one of them.

Hydra is on T8 now?
TheShimmy
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1808 Posts
December 24 2011 05:55 GMT
#383
On December 24 2011 14:53 LlamaNamedOsama wrote:
Seriously? As a SC2-er who decides to just today try following some bw streams, I get Bieber? Soo trolled XD


Welcome to our awesome awesome world.
Hyvaa #1 Fan. Gogo STX, Dear, Bogus, Classic, and Mini! Always a BW fan!
Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
December 24 2011 05:55 GMT
#384
Baby <3

But also Leta <333

How can I choose between the two cutest terrans in the universe
Writer:o
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-24 05:56:21
December 24 2011 05:55 GMT
#385
Nobody has mentioned it, but has anybody thought about the fact, that its easier to snipe T8 players assuming their little roster? Its much easier to predict the coming players taking map into account and other stuff.
BloodDrunK
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bangladesh2767 Posts
December 24 2011 05:56 GMT
#386
On December 24 2011 14:54 icystorage wrote:
SHIN SANG MOON!

How the HELL do you still have a SPARKYZ logo????? :O
You have the power to create your own destiny.
kingalexxx
Profile Joined January 2011
United States273 Posts
December 24 2011 05:56 GMT
#387
On December 24 2011 14:52 Abort Retry Fail wrote:
Someone pls translate what they are saynig

Basically the commentators kept asking Snow how he felt beating Jaedong and when he was assured of his victory etc. Snow replied by saying he thought he was good to go after taking out Jaedong's scourges. Then they asked him to choose 1 person to share this victory and he said " I wanna share this victory with my real friends." which made the commentators burst out laughing. He probably meant his friends outside of gaming but it just sounded like he didn't care about his teammates around him. Then he was asked to say a few words to the friends he wanted to share the victory and Snow replied, " I've been losing a lot lately, but I finally won -awkward pause-" It was just really awkward and funny.
X10A
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada9837 Posts
December 24 2011 05:56 GMT
#388
Sayle where u at bro?
He is there right?
CJ/T8 Fighting//#1 STX and Bisu anti <3//YES X10A is based off the Freedom Gundam
Shurayuki
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2665 Posts
December 24 2011 05:56 GMT
#389
On December 24 2011 14:55 Kiett wrote:
Baby <3

But also Leta <333

How can I choose between the two cutest terrans in the universe


As a guy that is easy for me, the one who wears dresses wins

LETAAAAAAAAAA~~~ HONEY~~~
なまいきになんなよ~ Don't be too stakka~ ☆ SKT Harlequin ☆ n.Die_soO Hoppin You ♪ 愛 am BeSt ♪ ワイフ♥小早川りんこ
DarkMatter_
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada1774 Posts
December 24 2011 05:56 GMT
#390
On December 24 2011 14:54 Motivate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2011 14:53 DarkMatter_ wrote:
Ugh Baby vs T. We're screwed. Hydra/Sea/Jaehoon are going to have a tough time beating Effort/Hydra. We really needed Baby to snipe one of them.

Hydra is on T8 now?

oops, I meant Killer. :D
S-Class
Profile Joined November 2011
Korea (North)665 Posts
December 24 2011 05:57 GMT
#391
So lets get this clear.

JD looks older after the break.
Sea looks much much older now.
Stork is really an adult now.
Bisu has lost the soft curves to become more manly.
Heck, even Baby looks like he grew from being a 3 year old toddler to an actual boy in puberty.

BUT why does Leta look like he got 8 years YOUNGER!
Damn Leta cutie forever~
kuroshiroi
Profile Joined November 2010
3149 Posts
December 24 2011 05:57 GMT
#392
On December 24 2011 14:54 Harem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2011 14:52 kuroshiroi wrote:
On December 24 2011 14:51 Uldridge wrote:
On December 24 2011 14:48 kingalexxx wrote:
On December 24 2011 14:44 Navi wrote:
idk why people think JD was being greedy
snow just hit at the perfect time ( as the lurkers were being morphed and right before his observers formed)
and won because of it
if he tried to wait for his obs, he couldn't have gotten past those lurkers and sunkens and would have been overwhelmed by jd's macro
but he crushed

Exactly this ^
I wouldn't say Jaedong played a bad game. It's just that Snow was really on his game today. First the DT, then chipping away the mutas' hp with sair/archon and then finally a well-timed push into Jaedong's expansion. Snow once again showed us his impressive PvZ just like he did during the bo5 against Jaedong in the MSL.


Oh, and obviously you missed the fact that he completely did not make any units and went for the 4th base practically right after he had taken his 3rd.

And mutas! Only mutas doesn't work against competent P players. Unless it's a muta rush or something.

......

You can't be serious.

It's a trend in JD's game. Mutas and early fourths kill him. All the time.
Fly Jaedong, fly!
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
December 24 2011 05:57 GMT
#393
Captain Leta make my fpl proud
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
LittLeLives
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States692 Posts
December 24 2011 05:57 GMT
#394
On December 24 2011 14:56 X10A wrote:
Sayle where u at bro?
He is there right?

At least he'll be there tomorrow.
... right?
Seraphic
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3849 Posts
December 24 2011 05:57 GMT
#395
T8 is fine. They just formed or have you all forgotten about that?

How long has it been when CJ has been together? Or Khan, or SKT.

Give them sometime, Team 8 will be perfectly fine. With the roster they have, it's near impossible for them to do terrible, especially with there coach.
Natus Vincere Fan | Team Secret Fan | SK Telecom T1 Fan | Lanaya the Templar Assassin <3
Dental Floss
Profile Joined September 2009
United States1015 Posts
December 24 2011 05:57 GMT
#396
I feel like Snow has a pretty good PvZ sometimes. Last year, maybe two years ago people were calling him the best ZvP player.
Kim Tae Gyun.... never forget Perfectman RIP
hellbound
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2242 Posts
December 24 2011 05:58 GMT
#397
The "4 base no army" build strikes again, sigh. Stop doing this to me JD
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
December 24 2011 05:58 GMT
#398
On December 24 2011 14:57 Sawamura wrote:
Captain Leta make my fpl proud

Leta and Baby both on my fpl) Make me proud boys!!!
mnesthes
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
5433 Posts
December 24 2011 05:58 GMT
#399
On December 24 2011 14:57 S-Class wrote:
So lets get this clear.

JD looks older after the break.
Sea looks much much older now.
Stork is really an adult now.
Bisu has lost the soft curves to become more manly.
Heck, even Baby looks like he grew from being a 3 year old toddler to an actual boy in puberty.

BUT why does Leta look like he got 8 years YOUNGER!
Damn Leta cutie forever~
He sneaked on them while they sleep and leeched off their youth every night.
<+LighTofHeaveN> Ppl call this "Indigo Children"
Shurayuki
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2665 Posts
December 24 2011 05:58 GMT
#400
On December 24 2011 14:57 LittLeLives wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2011 14:56 X10A wrote:
Sayle where u at bro?
He is there right?

At least he'll be there tomorrow.
... right?


if he isn't at the Khan game we should have somebody call the embassy, his workplace and some relative!
なまいきになんなよ~ Don't be too stakka~ ☆ SKT Harlequin ☆ n.Die_soO Hoppin You ♪ 愛 am BeSt ♪ ワイフ♥小早川りんこ
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