On August 15 2011 18:48 Kiante wrote: After he takes out your best tvt player, why would you send ANOTHER terran. why not a protoss =.= cj not taking this seriously at all
Currently, Leta's vT is better than Skyhighs. This probably was a chance for Skyhigh to redeem himself. I guess his comeback is delayed for now
On August 15 2011 18:48 Kiante wrote: After he takes out your best tvt player, why would you send ANOTHER terran. why not a protoss =.= cj not taking this seriously at all
CJ is not taking the STX cup seriously taking the STX cup seriously the STX cup, seriously.
BByong's wraiths are harassing, cloak is completed The temple isn't destroyed yet, so he's abusing the cliff Gets chased away after he loess a wraith Tank Gol push towards midmap by Bogus, Bogus takes out Wraiths, walks into 3 seiged tanks, the tanks hold thoug!
Armory for BByong Bogus has a tank line setup from the stretch from his nat to 9 oclock 9 oclock is up and running now, BByong has a CC of his own, at his nat going to be floating over scv at 6 oclock from BByong, and his tanks are setting up outside of it 2 more facts for Bogus, and a port of his own
BByong has 9 olcock, and his taking 6 now Bogus has alot of tanks from midmap, BByong is looking to sandwich I think, Bogus pulls back, and BByong pulls his remaining tanks after losing a few 2 armorys for Bogus, don't know how long he's had that for First paper airplane for Bogus 6 facts for BByong aswell
On August 15 2011 18:59 X10A wrote: BByong has 9 olcock, and his taking 6 now Bogus has alot of tanks from midmap, BByong is looking to sandwich I think, Bogus pulls back, and BByong pulls his remaining tanks after losing a few 2 armorys for Bogus, don't know how ling he's had that for First paper airplane for Bogus 6 facts for BByong aswell
Whoops, looked away for a second Looked like BByong pushed a little with vultures? Both players constantly having to rebuild ebays BByong taking 1 oclock, and 1 nat Vultures get in to harass the scvs Bogus is doing the same at 1 oclock, taking both expos
On August 15 2011 18:59 X10A wrote: BByong has 9 olcock, and his taking 6 now Bogus has alot of tanks from midmap, BByong is looking to sandwich I think, Bogus pulls back, and BByong pulls his remaining tanks after losing a few 2 armorys for Bogus, don't know how ling he's had that for First paper airplane for Bogus 6 facts for BByong aswell
BByong loses all his paper planes to golaiths, and the goliaths proceed to go down ARG tank lines being setup >< I have placed to be soon -.- Someone win + Show Spoiler +
BBYONG IF YOU LOSE TO BOGUS ><
BByong pushing Bogus's tank line Ahh Bogus gets the flank with vultures All of BByong's tanks go down, 3 come to reinforce but thats not enough
6 oclock is going down Bogus wants to take 12 oclock BByong has a few paper planes saved up 0-1 for BByong 1-1? for Bogus Bogus's force gets thrown throug the meat grinder, but both forces lose quite a bit at 12 oclock Looks like 0-2 for BByong Planes going to work on tanks + Show Spoiler +
Bogus is pushing BByong's tanks at 12 oclockish 3 or 4 armorys for BByong He pushes Bogus's tank line when his support units are out of position Reinforcements clean up his line though BByong trying to press down on the force 2-3? for Bogus
I have bad eyes, I'm trying to find upgrades Crap ton of ports being added at 1 oclock, and vultures run in Tanks are outside aswell 1-1-1 for wraiths Vultures at 1 get cleaned up and Bogus pulls back from 1,
Unseiged tanks<Seiged tanks apparently, oh god I hate the sign, I never know if I'm right or not Wraiths go in and proceed to get taken out by reinforcing goliaths Bogus with more ports aswsell at 10 oclock, wayyy more thank BByong it looks like
Researching cloak for his own paper planes now Oh hey unprotected tanks, I'll go send my paper planes after them All tanks go down at 12 oclock More tank goliath come to setup more tank lines
BByong better add a valkrye 12 oclock is Bogus' Holy crap ton of paper airplanes, a valk would totally wreck stuff up, should it get a couple of shots off , or is that not how they work? 2-2-2 for Bogus' planes
Both plane fleets are going back and forth The totally expensive ass shelling units are getting sniped off by the paper airplanes The mech walkers which somewhat counter the planes are getting setup aswell Bogus' airplanes take out a CC, and more wraith dancing Is that goliath stuck o.o Both players at 2-2-2
Bogus killing his own tanks to free up supply Do you believe you not have enough ports?! Coming back into BW I didn't want a TvT D= BByong needs more ports Or something, + Show Spoiler +
Where are the valks -.- 0-3 for BByong o.o Wheres your plating man? Bogus pushing more towards 1 oclock AIR BATTLE BByong gets crushed + Show Spoiler +
Oh how I hate you Bogus, you and most of the players on your team
On August 15 2011 19:21 sixfour wrote: please don't send leta
that would be awesome if cj sent leta ;D more tvt
No.... that WON'T be awesome :D
2 TvT is more than enough.
edit: But I have to say, both TvT's were kind of good, I hate those "1 hour - no one is doing anything but building BC and wait - ends up with a draw" - TvT 's
Spire going up now Where taking 7 oclock Academy is up, and is researching, ebay going up Its not hard to call a 12 hatch, but when you get up, and have difficulty figuring things out like me. lol Turrets are going up MnM group was moving out, but pulls back Mutas are coming now 7 oclock hatchery is up
On August 15 2011 19:35 jjhchsc2 wrote: why does the zerg take the bottom left instead of the bottom right? wouldnt it be better if the base was farther from the terran base?
I don't know shit, but I guess it's cause lurkers can defend one approach rather than two.
On August 15 2011 19:35 jjhchsc2 wrote: why does the zerg take the bottom left instead of the bottom right? wouldnt it be better if the base was farther from the terran base?
On August 15 2011 19:35 jjhchsc2 wrote: why does the zerg take the bottom left instead of the bottom right? wouldnt it be better if the base was farther from the terran base?
I don't know shit, but I guess it's cause lurkers can defend one approach rather than two.
On August 15 2011 19:35 jjhchsc2 wrote: why does the zerg take the bottom left instead of the bottom right? wouldnt it be better if the base was farther from the terran base?
He is agressive and muta spawn really close to terran + easier to defend in mid/late game
MnM moving out Where, losing lots of mutas Queens nest and Hydra Den up at 7 oclock MnM still moving towards 7oclock Where takes out the reinforcements though +1 attack for marines complete Hive morphing
5 rax, fact and starport, Where loses a hydra, and a few mutas, yes I am keeping count Medics are getting picked at, 3 go down Vessel tech is out, and tanks are coming GREATER SPIRE And defiler mound Where is oging to offensive guardian his way to victory again o.o Lurkers are on the way Tanks being mixed into the army
Guardians morphing Sunkens going down at the nat 2 lurkers go down Guardians attacking from the back, taking out the tanks The nat is broken Greater spire is down Pool too Dmax marine, GG from Where Movie for the reverse AK
On August 15 2011 19:43 SkelA wrote: Is it safe to say that Bogus is the 2nd best terran right now ?
It is not "safe" to say it I think because there is still Fantasy, even if his results haven't been great recently. But it also depends on what you mean by "right now". He sure is very good.
Bogus is fifth in my book. Flash > Fantasy > Light > Leta > Bogus imo. Bogus needs to have some individual league achievements before I'd rate him higher.
On August 15 2011 19:49 Winechu wrote: Bogus is fifth in my book. Flash > Fantasy > Light > Leta > Bogus imo. Bogus needs to have some individual league achievements before I'd rate him higher.
Bogus and Baby both need to advance further in individual leagues to be anything more than the next Sea.
On August 15 2011 19:49 Winechu wrote: Bogus is fifth in my book. Flash > Fantasy > Light > Leta > Bogus imo. Bogus needs to have some individual league achievements before I'd rate him higher.
On August 15 2011 19:49 Winechu wrote: Bogus is fifth in my book. Flash > Fantasy > Light > Leta > Bogus imo. Bogus needs to have some individual league achievements before I'd rate him higher.
And Leta + Light got some league achievments hmm?
How many times has Bogus advanced to the Ro16 and beyond in an indiv league?
1 gate core;; fact is completed now, add on being added marines chasing the probe, zealot at the ramp Another zealot slowly walking towards Bogus Core spinning, goon out
Hidden starport! Snow better scout this Goon intercepting the scv on the way to Snow's base Zealots pull back, as marines + tank push out Add on for starport
Whoops >< Froze the video Looks like Snow is lucky he went obs first, mines around the mineral line, but nothing pulled into the probe line Tank and teh marines dropped into the main aswell Vultures mining up the nat Dropship runs into fire, gets taken out, as does the tank All of Bogus' forces goes down 2 facts being added Another dropship being produced? o.o
2 vultures dropped into the main again Get taken out without much damage done Bogus has his nat, as does Snow, Both players taking their 3rd aswell 4 vultures taking out alot of probes Citadel is complete 4th and 5th facts going up Shuttle is out
Stargate is warping in Snow catches a pair of vultures, sneaking into his 3rd Shuttle spots the dropship 2 more gates warping in 6? Archives is up aswell
On August 15 2011 20:07 X10A wrote: 2nd stargate warping in If Yellow is the king of Silver CJ is the king of Bronze I think, they have a crap ton of 3rd places right? o.o
Drop into the back of Snow's 4th? it looks like Aswell as vultures in his 3rd Both get cleaned up Vessel is out Shuttle barely survives Fleet beacon is up Emp on Snow's entire force Observer gets sniped by goliaths
On August 15 2011 20:06 Lightwip wrote: I go here to see CJ 0-3 against Bogus. This is the CJ that loses every important match ever, that let KT crush them with ease in the PL Semis.
This is also the CJ that didn't play Leta, Horang2 or Movie against Bogus. They clearly don't give a damn about this match and just asked for volunteers.
On August 15 2011 20:07 X10A wrote: 2nd stargate warping in If Yellow is the king of Silver CJ is the king of Bronze I think, they have a crap ton of 3rd places right? o.o
except they wouldn't be third in this?
Whoops, I guess I forgot to mention that was about the semis
On August 15 2011 20:06 Lightwip wrote: I go here to see CJ 0-3 against Bogus. This is the CJ that loses every important match ever, that let KT crush them with ease in the PL Semis.
You're just using this to confirm what you think about them. Any viewer watching knows that CJ isn't taking this seriously.
1-2 for Bogus 5th CC in nat for him Bogus is moving out, a little bit Both players engage a little, but nothing major yet Vultures moving in Stasis on 2/3 of the vessels No tanks caught though Snow taking 11 30 now, and he has 8 oclock setup +1 attack for Toss air is complete Bogus building a CC next to 8 oclock nex EMP on 2 arbiters, but theirs a nice stasis on a clump of tanks 3 carriers out
Carriers push back into the base to take out the CC under construction Bogus pushing into the 11 30 back again Carriers delaying the CC, but are not killing it Stream switch o.o looks like Snow killed it off Focusing down another CC Arbiter goes down, but gets a stasis off Snow's 11 30 base goes down, and his 4th base is under pressure Goliaths are pulled back to deal with the carriers at the exposed base Carriers in the main, I can't see upgrades D= Snow picks off the CC, and is barley holding onto his base at 8 More reinforcing goliaths are going to take out the expo Carriers are reigning free in the main unchecked
That was an exciting game anyway. Snow did a very good job stalling that push for carriers. He perpetually had his goons just out of tank range forcing the push speed down to a crawl.
stx proving that they can take this less seriously than CJ. You send new rookies? we send fresh blood! if tossgirl comes out next then stx win the apathy award
i don't think rookies are prone to going dts in pvp. If you're gonna get sent in STX cup, you want to prove that you can play straight-up, not hope that you luck out.
Mini going for Reaver first Snow pushing at Mini's forces Doing an excellent jobs at picking off goons, all but 2 go down Snow is pushing up towards Mini now with his goons His own Robo just started
Snow pushing in Mini forced to pull probes Reaver is out The shuttle gets picked off, the reaver has no scarabs!, and goes down! Snow with reinforcing goons, lol nanashin
Mini has a second reaver Snow has obs and a shuttle, not too sure about reaver tech Yes Snow has a reaver Mini has 2 reavers, no shuttle support Snow is pushing again
Looks like Snow is going to turn around Mini has a shuttle out, with both reavers in it I assume Shuttle loses its shields Its in the yellow, but has support from goons now Wnow's goons are out of position! Reavers take out the two goons Huge scarab Reavers come back in Several duds Both players have 2 reavers
Mini taking his nat now Snow is going to run his shuttle, no hes not going to run it into a goon 4 reavers out for Mini Is that shuttle speed for Snow? Shuttle reaver micro!
Snow taking his own nat now Barely saves his obs aswell Snow is pushing! Takes out the shuttle Loses a few goons Mini has another shuttle out Snow picking off a goon here or there across the ridge
snow is fairly behind but its not an unwinnable situation, just not sure how long its going to be until mini busts out and leaves snow's contain in dust tho
Two shuttles moving out Snow's obs finds them, but they have speed up Goons are moving into position 3 reavers and a goon Probes are forced back Mini's scarabs took out a nice clump of probes Mini pushing out! Shuttle gets taken out, but Mini is overrunning Snow with goons
On August 15 2011 20:48 Kiante wrote: how did CJ go from being so strong in round 6 to this
No Leta, Movie, Hydra, Horang2 and Snow lost a game to Mini and only got one win. Its not that surprising actually. Bogus is not really bad and CJ threw at him inferior players today except Snow =/
I'm looking forward to mini. On B.Net attack, both Shuttle and by.hero talked about mini and how they have high hopes for him. Apparently, he has a very creative and free play style.
On August 15 2011 23:50 Kalent wrote: I'm looking forward to mini. On B.Net attack, both Shuttle and by.hero talked about mini and how they have high hopes for him. Apparently, he has a very creative and free play style.
thats nice,then again they could probably be hyping him like Jaedong does to Sexy and Bee.
On August 15 2011 22:05 Ryo wrote: Now the question is... where is Kal?
I want ask the same question too. The first match vs Khan, he is not there too. Wonder why?
There was a short fan meeting after the match and someone asked the question. They didn't give detail, but they said Kal's on vacation, it was the time he need to think about his future, and he might join Airforce.
On August 15 2011 22:05 Ryo wrote: Now the question is... where is Kal?
I want ask the same question too. The first match vs Khan, he is not there too. Wonder why?
There was a short fan meeting after the match and someone asked the question. They didn't give detail, but they said Kal's on vacation, it was the time he need to think about his future, and he might join Airforce.
Who said Kal might join Airforce? The STX players or STX fans?
Edit: It would be a bad decision for him to join ACE at this point in his career. I can't think of a player whose form improved after 2 years in ACE. FBH might prove me wrong but he's still got another 1 year to go. If Kal really needs a change in environment, maybe it's time for him to join another team.
On August 15 2011 22:05 Ryo wrote: Now the question is... where is Kal?
I want ask the same question too. The first match vs Khan, he is not there too. Wonder why?
There was a short fan meeting after the match and someone asked the question. They didn't give detail, but they said Kal's on vacation, it was the time he need to think about his future, and he might join Airforce.
oh man I really hope he stays on STX for at least another season. his slump was so sudden. In December he was right behind stork in individual league results (failing to reach semifinals of both leagues at same time by only 1 game in both series) and then suddenly he starts losing left and right :\
a lot of his loses are just because he made 1 or 2 really bad decisions. his mechanics are still top notch, he just seems far too nervous in televised games or something now.
On August 15 2011 22:05 Ryo wrote: Now the question is... where is Kal?
I want ask the same question too. The first match vs Khan, he is not there too. Wonder why?
There was a short fan meeting after the match and someone asked the question. They didn't give detail, but they said Kal's on vacation, it was the time he need to think about his future, and he might join Airforce.
oh man I really hope he stays on STX for at least another season. his slump was so sudden. In December he was right behind stork in individual league results (failing to reach semifinals of both leagues at same time by only 1 game in both series) and then suddenly he starts losing left and right :\
a lot of his loses are just because he made 1 or 2 really bad decisions. his mechanics are still top notch, he just seems far too nervous in televised games or something now.
I think he makes more bad decisions on average per game since the OSL where he was defeated by Modesty. That really tore him down, as far as I could tell. I hope STX staff does their job and gets him back to form, because then STX would be absolutely beastly. Hopefully that vacation helps too.
Thanks for whoever gave that information too, I was worrying about that for weeks now.
On August 16 2011 08:01 Kipsate wrote: What I miss about Kal is his Sair Reaver, I really loved that.
I miss his shuttle play vs Terran. Some games he would be able to keep his shuttle and 2 reavers alive FOREVER and slow down a terran's push with it so much. god I hope he comes back
Oh shit I totally missed this. Stupid TL calendar never showing BW events before the day that they happen on anymore but instead showing a million random SC2 tourneys that I don't care about.