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[OSL] EVER OSL Semi-Final A: Flash vs Calm - Page 34

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FireGuyX
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1712 Posts
January 01 2010 10:09 GMT
#661
I think Flash is expecting Calm to cheese or come up with some crazy built, maybe Flash will do a counter-rush?
Flash, ForGG, and Movie fan.
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
January 01 2010 10:09 GMT
#662
On January 01 2010 19:07 mog87 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2010 19:05 Cambium wrote:
On January 01 2010 19:04 mog87 wrote:
On January 01 2010 19:03 Cambium wrote:
The army was unbelievably large. I think only Oov was able to produce such an army... but he'd've lost the harassing rines


Dude any terran these days can make that big of an army...Literally any and every terran from Sea to by.barracks to forgg etc.

hell even bogus was making boat loads of marines vs savior, sure he didnt really micro them that amazingly but he won anyway.


I'm quoting this.


go ahead Ill quote it for you again, many terrans can macro that well at that stage of the game dude..Im not saying flash isnt amazing, but that wasnt any real display of his actual ability to be amazing.


Flash is KNOWN for keeping his barracks lit all the time. You are basically asserting that any Terran progamer is on par with Flash in terms of macro abilities. An assertion I find ridiculous.
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alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
January 01 2010 10:09 GMT
#663
On January 01 2010 19:07 Southlight wrote:
WTF Flash only 343 APM that game?


wtf 343 is super friggin high
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dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
January 01 2010 10:09 GMT
#664
But Flash didn't Turtle...

His TvZ style doesn't seem to involve turtling, but rather early aggression, combined with constant scouting.
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
January 01 2010 10:09 GMT
#665
On January 01 2010 19:07 Faranth wrote:
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On January 01 2010 19:06 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
On January 01 2010 19:04 Faranth wrote:
Calm showing why 2-hatch muta simply doesn't work anymore.

You're kidding.


Okay, yeah, I'm exaggerating. His micro WAS pretty dismal. But going low-econ against someone like Flash, a macro monster just strikes me as a bad idea.


You're saying playing a macro game against a macro monster is better than going low-econ? wtf?
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cokencheese
Profile Joined October 2009
Philippines748 Posts
January 01 2010 10:09 GMT
#666
On January 01 2010 19:04 Chen wrote:
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On January 01 2010 19:02 FireGuyX wrote:
Wow I've never seen mutalisk defense is good as Flash.

to be perfectly objective and unbiased, I've never seen a pro with as bad Muta micro as Calm. maybe hes just nervous and trying to be perfect against flash causing screw ups, but that was horrible


To be fair, Jaedong had worse looking muta micro in game 1 of his series with Flash.
pR0gR4m3R
Profile Joined February 2008
Spain1446 Posts
January 01 2010 10:10 GMT
#667
On January 01 2010 19:07 zerotol wrote:
Horrible muta control from Calm first game cost him the game instead of flash's superplay. There was one turret up in his main, had this been JD it would have been over then.


JD wouldnt have lost so many mutas without killing some MMs on the way

Come on Calm, you´re supossed to be a top3 Zerg, with excellent muta control. You can do better than this
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TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
January 01 2010 10:10 GMT
#668
On January 01 2010 19:09 dukethegold wrote:
But Flash didn't Turtle...

His TvZ style doesn't seem to involve turtling, but rather early aggression, combined with constant scouting.


He's one of those fast little land turtles that bites off your toe before you know what hit you.
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viewer
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada662 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-01 10:10:59
January 01 2010 10:10 GMT
#669
On January 01 2010 19:09 alffla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2010 19:07 Southlight wrote:
WTF Flash only 343 APM that game?


wtf 343 is super friggin high


tvz for that map?


before anyone responds im JOKING im with you afflia lol
d(O.o)a
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-01 10:10:58
January 01 2010 10:10 GMT
#670
On January 01 2010 19:09 Cambium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2010 19:07 mog87 wrote:
On January 01 2010 19:05 Cambium wrote:
On January 01 2010 19:04 mog87 wrote:
On January 01 2010 19:03 Cambium wrote:
The army was unbelievably large. I think only Oov was able to produce such an army... but he'd've lost the harassing rines


Dude any terran these days can make that big of an army...Literally any and every terran from Sea to by.barracks to forgg etc.

hell even bogus was making boat loads of marines vs savior, sure he didnt really micro them that amazingly but he won anyway.


I'm quoting this.


go ahead Ill quote it for you again, many terrans can macro that well at that stage of the game dude..Im not saying flash isnt amazing, but that wasnt any real display of his actual ability to be amazing.


Flash is KNOWN for keeping his barracks lit all the time. You are basically asserting that any Terran progamer is on par with Flash in terms of macro abilities. An assertion I find ridiculous.


You're taking it wrong, what he's saying is that nowadays most terrans have macro good enough to keep 5-6 barracks lit. Hell, idra can do it.
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
January 01 2010 10:10 GMT
#671
On January 01 2010 19:09 alffla wrote:wtf 343 is super friggin high


It said Calm had 400, and after all the rage about Flash's handspeed I expected Flash to be around 400, I guess I was wrong though (usually don't get to see that APM screen).
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butter
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States785 Posts
January 01 2010 10:10 GMT
#672
This intro makes me sad.
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meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
January 01 2010 10:10 GMT
#673
Calm will probably come up with another aggressive low econ build. Playing standard vs Flash's TvZ is a death wish haha.
Brood War loyalist
revy
Profile Joined September 2009
United States1524 Posts
January 01 2010 10:10 GMT
#674
I think the reason Calm's muta micro wasn't stellar was because he was trying to force opportunities that he shouldn't have.
Assymptotic
Profile Joined February 2009
United States552 Posts
January 01 2010 10:10 GMT
#675
On January 01 2010 19:06 pR0gR4m3R wrote:
That was a PRETTY POOR muta micro by Calm

Indeed, Calm lost like 6 mutas to a single control group of MnM in a 30-45 second span at one point. Abysmal to say the least.
So close, and yet so far
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
January 01 2010 10:10 GMT
#676
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29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5725 Posts
January 01 2010 10:11 GMT
#677
anyone have a lagless stream? the ferron.pe one pauses every so often....=(
4v4 is a battle of who has the better computer.
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10346 Posts
January 01 2010 10:11 GMT
#678
On January 01 2010 19:09 cokencheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2010 19:04 Chen wrote:
On January 01 2010 19:02 FireGuyX wrote:
Wow I've never seen mutalisk defense is good as Flash.

to be perfectly objective and unbiased, I've never seen a pro with as bad Muta micro as Calm. maybe hes just nervous and trying to be perfect against flash causing screw ups, but that was horrible


To be fair, Jaedong had worse looking muta micro in game 1 of his series with Flash.

Yeah, man. Jaedong lost that Bo3 in less than 20 minutes. All Calm has to do is make it to lair tech and he'll have already put up a better fight.
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Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
January 01 2010 10:11 GMT
#679
On January 01 2010 19:07 Faranth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2010 19:06 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
On January 01 2010 19:04 Faranth wrote:
Calm showing why 2-hatch muta simply doesn't work anymore.

You're kidding.


Okay, yeah, I'm exaggerating. His micro WAS pretty dismal. But going low-econ against someone like Flash, a macro monster just strikes me as a bad idea.


I would say the opposite, the way you beat a macro monster is by forcing them to play a game where they can't rely on macro to win...
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nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
January 01 2010 10:11 GMT
#680
On January 01 2010 19:10 butterbrain wrote:
This intro makes me sad.

Are you watching your life flash in front of your eyes too?

Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
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