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your picture titles are getting more fancy
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GO TYPE-B I Believe!!!
Also nice banner, try drawing some of the progamers with ms paint next time to entertain me.
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On December 30 2009 12:24 lone_hydra wrote:
GO TYPE-B I Believe!!!
Also nice banner, try drawing some of the progamers with ms paint next time to entertain me.
noted
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sparkyz and SSM hwaiting!
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pripple
Finland1714 Posts
Kal vs HoGiL should be sexy, STX has this.
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Your banners are so kawaii.
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luckily hero got a protoss
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pripple
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On December 30 2009 13:07 pripple wrote:
type-b lost already?
10 minute game or so....
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holy shitttttttttttttt
EPIC BANNER
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Calm uses early muta and gas advantage along with some nice zergling/muta micro to take the first game from type-b. 1-0 STX.
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United States33390 Posts
Hmm, hogil could have taken anything he wanted so it's kind of disappointing he's still only on 3 gas 
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Hogil opens 9 pool into 3-hatch muta but it is defended by kal with no major damage being done. Hogil then adds 6th hatch and turtles on 4 bases with lurkers and lings while teching to hive. He holds off the first major attack Kal makes on his 4th. Kal is now taking the centre expansion on HBR.
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Hogil successfully defends a storm drop with scourge and then defends a goon/temp attack on his natural while scouting and shutting down Kal's attempt at a third. He's in a pretty good position right now. Kal is now expanding to 6 o clock but Hogil finds it with a zergling. Hogil playing pretty solidly so far.
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On December 30 2009 13:31 Weasel- wrote:
Hogil opens 9 pool into 3-hatch muta but it is defended by kal with no major damage being done. Hogil then adds 6th hatch and turtles on 4 bases with lurkers and lings while teching to hive. He holds off the first major attack Kal makes on his 4th. Kal is now taking the centre expansion on HBR.
Heh, that's probably the longest time covered by a single post update I've seen. Usually there's incessant 15 second updates, this was all the way into late-mid game.
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United States33390 Posts
Blah Hogil was in a good place in the beginning, his mutas killed a decent amount of probes while the mutas survived, and Kal took a long time to transition into making a large ground army after his sair/DT open did nothing... Yet Hogil didn't take any more expansions, tech up, or do anything useful . This game is closer than it had to be.
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On December 30 2009 13:35 Un Gato wrote:Show nested quote +On December 30 2009 13:31 Weasel- wrote:
Hogil opens 9 pool into 3-hatch muta but it is defended by kal with no major damage being done. Hogil then adds 6th hatch and turtles on 4 bases with lurkers and lings while teching to hive. He holds off the first major attack Kal makes on his 4th. Kal is now taking the centre expansion on HBR. Heh, that's probably the longest time covered by a single post update I've seen. Usually there's incessant 15 second updates, this was all the way into late-mid game.
because kt vs skt is on 
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Wow, Hogil is playing really well here
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kal's 6 o'clock is down, situation looks pretty dire. 7 o'clock down as well
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wow, talking about blowing an advantage
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Hogil loses his entire army (decent sized hydra/lurk/ling force) on Kal's side of the map and fails to shut down Kal's third. Kal then expands to the bottom left expansion and goes for another attack on Hogil's natural but dark swarm stops it. Hogil snipes the nexus at Kal's fourth with a small group of lings and expands to the top left expansion. Kal drops 4 DTs in Hogil's main and they snipe the spawning pool before Hogil can defend. Hogil starts to apply pressure to Kal's defenses at his third at 6 o clock with defiler/lurker/ling/hydra. Hogil is now at 3 carapace 2 melee attack 3 ranged attack with Kal at +3 weapons. Hogil clears out Kal's third, then moves over to his fourth and clears it out as well. Kal now has no income and launches a last-ditch attack on Hogil's natural and fourth, but Hogil defends after zealots pick off the hatchery at the fourth. Kal's remaining forces die and he ggs.
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On December 30 2009 13:41 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Wow, Hogil is playing really well here
I have been saying it for a long time now, Hogil probably have a top 3 ZvP in the world or the very least a top5. He is ridiculously good at ZvP.
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FPL: -6 points and counting
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On December 30 2009 13:44 Oystein wrote:Show nested quote +On December 30 2009 13:41 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Wow, Hogil is playing really well here I have been saying it for a long time now, Hogil probably have a top 3 ZvP in the world or the very least a top5. He is ridiculously good at ZvP.
This entire game was rather bad. Fortunately for Hogil, Kal's PvZ is worse than his ZvP.
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The ZvP specialist strikes.
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Kal GGs and shows a smile. WP Hogil.
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Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
On December 30 2009 13:38 Jyvblamo wrote:
Fo' shogil.
Love it.
Neat game there. Good stalwart play from Fo' sho.
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On December 30 2009 13:44 Oystein wrote:Show nested quote +On December 30 2009 13:41 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Wow, Hogil is playing really well here I have been saying it for a long time now, Hogil probably have a top 3 ZvP in the world or the very least a top5. He is ridiculously good at ZvP.
I always knew him as having a decent ZvT, but not so much for his ZvP. I'll keep an eye on him 
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Sick game by Hogil. Kal's first attempt at his third nexus was quite weird. Maybe that was what costed him this game.
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Hogil is a very strong player this season, his zvt and zvp have been ridiculous him beating kal doesnt suprise me in the least. Too bad his zvz sucks. And hogil doesnt fit in with the cheesy/gimmicky motif of hite.
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ROFL Kal really thought he could get away with taking the middle expo against a noobzerg. I was confident Hogil could take this match and I'm so happy he did
Funny how Sparkyz zergs ended up. Type-B and Yarnc specialize in ZvT and are abysmally terrible at ZvP but you have Hogil with a great win record vs P but who's awful at ZvZ
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On December 30 2009 13:45 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:Show nested quote +On December 30 2009 13:44 Oystein wrote:On December 30 2009 13:41 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Wow, Hogil is playing really well here I have been saying it for a long time now, Hogil probably have a top 3 ZvP in the world or the very least a top5. He is ridiculously good at ZvP. I always knew him as having a decent ZvT, but not so much for his ZvP. I'll keep an eye on him
Should watch his games vs Free imo.
So sick.
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Hogil's late game play is just awesome. His winning percentage must increase the longer the game goes, great player to watch.
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seems like kal was just a little smug for his own good, expanding to the center without obs? then double expanding to the center and the min-only. probably thought hogil would be a pushover
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On December 30 2009 13:45 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:Show nested quote +On December 30 2009 13:44 Oystein wrote:On December 30 2009 13:41 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Wow, Hogil is playing really well here I have been saying it for a long time now, Hogil probably have a top 3 ZvP in the world or the very least a top5. He is ridiculously good at ZvP. I always knew him as having a decent ZvT, but not so much for his ZvP. I'll keep an eye on him
HoGiL has always been considered to be a ZvP specialist, though he is farily good at the other matchups.
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On December 30 2009 13:44 Oystein wrote:Show nested quote +On December 30 2009 13:41 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Wow, Hogil is playing really well here I have been saying it for a long time now, Hogil probably have a top 3 ZvP in the world or the very least a top5. He is ridiculously good at ZvP.
Jaedong and Effort are still miles ahead of him, and honestly I'd be skeptical to call him better than Calm, By.Hero and Zero.
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Leta rubbing his eyes before he goes on stage...
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LOLGIL ownage. too bad im watching those long macrowars in KT vs SKT
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On December 30 2009 13:47 iamho wrote:
seems like kal was just a little smug for his own good, expanding to the center without obs? then double expanding to the center and the min-only. probably thought hogil would be a pushover
If he can get up that expo in the center its really good, since he can attack at all 3 places from there with quick retreat to cover + he don`t have to worry about back stabs towards his 3rd if he gets it up since he will be moving his army around in the center anyway. + Once you have that base taking your 4th/5th gets easier since Zerg really have to pay attention to where he sends his units. I have seen at least once before (in a progame) the Toss trying to take the center expo as their 3rd, so I guess there is a good reason for it.
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On December 30 2009 13:48 Zona wrote:
Leta rubbing his eyes before he goes on stage...
probably just waking up from his beauty rest
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Oh, God. I missed Hogil owning.
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LETA HWAITING! 15port - wraith pl0x
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I predict autowin for Hwasin, following a case of awesome scouting.
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Both players harass with mass vultures, Hwasin loses more than twice the scvs than Leta.
EDIT: Leta contains Hwasin, who lifts his natural CC
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On December 30 2009 14:04 domane wrote:
Both players harass with mass vultures, Hwasin loses more than twice the scvs than Leta.
EDIT: Leta contains Hwasin, who lifts his natural CC
but Hwasin had an earlier expansion.
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Both players rebuilding barracks.
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Wow game 3 about to start and the thread has 3 pages... I wonder what the other match of the night is?
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Hwasin refuses to save scvs. Who need 'em anyway.
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totally brutal how fast that game turned around, wow
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In short, Hwasin moved out with vultures when he had the advantage.
Plus, he later overextended himself once he won map control.
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hwasin just cant handle the punishment from leta...wow
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A few wraiths aren't useful for anything but vision and killing dropships - but once you mass them...
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wow, leta snipes the dropship, steamrolls over hwasin's nat
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That was an absolute rolling right there.
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gg...seeing that column of tanks roll up Hwasin's ramp...
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This guy can see the future.
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GG.
nothing against hwasin, but i like it when leta wins
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Hwasin gets rolled by wraiths ggs
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Well that game was over rather quickly...
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Hey guys, just stopping by from the KT vs SKT thread to say hi. It's kind of an awkward situation, like the football team and cheerleaders in high school throw a big party on the same day as the chess club.
No but really, I hope hero wins and we get a Calm vs Leta ace.
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w00t! Leta ownage now for secret to wrap it up (i hope) >.<
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Baa?21243 Posts
hero fighting! get me some fantasy points!
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On December 30 2009 14:12 MountainDewJunkie wrote:This guy can see the future.
lol. I was going to predict HoGil, but figured I would get shit for it, plus didn't want to try to guess who would be sent out on an ace match.
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Is STX allowed to field a zerg for ace if two have already been played? Hopefully there won't even be an ace.
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Yes anyone is allowed in ace.
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On December 30 2009 14:18 asdfTT123 wrote:Is STX allowed to field a zerg for ace if two have already been played? Hopefully there won't even be an ace.
Yep, the rule is just 1 of each race per match.
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On December 30 2009 14:18 asdfTT123 wrote:Is STX allowed to field a zerg for ace if two have already been played? Hopefully there won't even be an ace.
All that needed is one of each race to appear in the first four sets
edit: though ic thats already been answered
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Thanks guys
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On December 30 2009 13:47 TwoToneTerran wrote:Show nested quote +On December 30 2009 13:44 Oystein wrote:On December 30 2009 13:41 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Wow, Hogil is playing really well here I have been saying it for a long time now, Hogil probably have a top 3 ZvP in the world or the very least a top5. He is ridiculously good at ZvP. Jaedong and Effort are still miles ahead of him, and honestly I'd be skeptical to call him better than Calm, By.Hero and Zero.
Jaedong and Effort are probably better than him yeah, but saying they are miles ahead of him is kind of a stretch considering Hogil is winning most of his ZvPs (Raping in the offline tourneys also) and beating several of the top tosses (Free, Stork, Kal). The only thing going against Hogil is that he have barely played any BOx series vs good people and have sort of a small sample size of games but you can see from his ZvPs the last year that he is insanely good at it.
Of those others you suggested, the only one playing at the same level is Calm, as much as I love ZerOs ZvP that man is just way to inconsistent like he dropped 5 ZvPs in a row the last few weeks. Can you REALLY consider him top material when shit like that happens? Sure his a-game is insanely good, but then at other times he looks like a total chump losing in such sad ways. As for Hero, do you really think he is a top ZvP player? I mean sure hes got a pretty decent ZvP, but beside beating Bisu 3 times hes never shown anything beastly ZvP imo.
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Gogogo SeCret! Trash hero like you trashed Violet.
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On December 30 2009 14:15 Hinanawi wrote:
Hey guys, just stopping by from the KT vs SKT thread to say hi. It's kind of an awkward situation, like the football team and cheerleaders in high school throw a big party on the same day as the chess club.
No but really, I hope hero wins and we get a Calm vs Leta ace.
But the games here have been so much better than those in there. I didn't watch Violet vs Best though.
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Who has an MSL title? Calm and not Effort (btw Calm beat both Jaedong and Effort in that MSL).
Who's in the OSL semifinals? Calm and not Effort.
Effort does play amazingly, absolutely, but he is the zerg version of Sea until he proves otherwise.
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On December 30 2009 14:26 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Who has an MSL title? Calm and not Effort (btw Calm beat both Jaedong and Effort in that MSL).
Who's in the OSL semifinals? Calm and not Effort.
Effort does play amazingly, absolutely, but he is the zerg version of Sea until he proves otherwise.
i thought they were just talking about who has the best vP
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On December 30 2009 14:26 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Who has an MSL title? Calm and not Effort (btw Calm beat both Jaedong and Effort in that MSL).
Who's in the OSL semifinals? Calm and not Effort.
Effort does play amazingly, absolutely, but he is the zerg version of Sea until he proves otherwise.
Amen to that. Calm ftw.
Now gogo hero, wreck this shit!
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On December 30 2009 14:28 cabarkapa wrote:Show nested quote +On December 30 2009 14:26 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Who has an MSL title? Calm and not Effort (btw Calm beat both Jaedong and Effort in that MSL).
Who's in the OSL semifinals? Calm and not Effort.
Effort does play amazingly, absolutely, but he is the zerg version of Sea until he proves otherwise. i thought they were just talking about who has the best vP
Curses, all I saw was that "Calm not good as Effort or Jaedong" and my fan rage activated. Not that it matters, because Calm has damn good ZvP this season.
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I always enjoy seeing lurker eggs on a ramp
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I don't care for this Secret character. Where is horang2?!
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Muta switch would be good now
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konadora
Singapore66163 Posts
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Nice chogaling run-in at the nat to kill 3-4 HT by my count.
Almost pure Zealots/Templar for toss but hero loses all mutas after sniping 2-3 more HT.
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some pretty nasty storms by secret to take out mutas
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On December 30 2009 14:34 Megalisk wrote:
Muta switch would be good now
But he just lost all of his mutas..
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Secret's not bad (based on the whole 3 games I've seen). Hard to say that Horang2 is any better this season, because he just hasn't been. But they'll play him again, no worries.
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Yay muta harass. Quite profitable.
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mutas snacking freely on like a dozen probes...
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Cracklings so scary - takes out SEcret's 3hird - but now naked lurkers vulnerable.
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hero with the sea of lings
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CRAAAAAAAAKlings...
lol awesome how a 50min unit is way to deadly with the upgrades
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A shitload of lings run in and take out Secret's third. Those lings wreck his rally point and is wrecking his nat. More lings incoming. Its like Calm vs Backho all over again.
GG from toss.
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Now in the nat - Secret doesn't have enough to stop them.
GG!
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yeahhh comon hero!!
fpl and ace rest on your shouldersss GGGG
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Secret gg's! Ace matchhhhhh
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konadora
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GG!!! Please oh please, be a Calm vs. Leta ace.
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Those ling numbers were ridiculously scary @_@
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he is good at making lings, is an useful talent toi have
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marcoso
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The difference in macro was too much, only if by.hero was playing movie.
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Wow hero got me points :O talk about a ling overdose.
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I predict Bogus vs Yarnc for ace match.
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4sz5sz6sz7sz8sz9sz
a useful talent toi have
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Calm vs. Yarnc I believe!!
I want ZvZ!
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Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
On December 30 2009 14:40 writer22816 wrote:
STX should send Kal
This.
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It would be wise of STX to send Kal. I predict Kal vs Leta.
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c.zeroboy.net/Roffles for good quality
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Lemonwalrus, just so you know, I fucking love your version of Gee (with the drums). 
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Baa?21243 Posts
Please send Calm, and Calm please win so I can crack top 10 again ^_^
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konadora
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OMFG ITS YARNC <3 <3 <3.
Too bad it's Kal and not Hwasin -.-
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WTF YELLOW ARNC? WHY DIDNT U SEND LETA WHY!!!!
KAL VS YELLOW WTF 5 POOL OR WHAT!
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hmmm, i guess that not a bad ace match
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Luxury vs....
waaait a second.
YarnC.
nothing to see here.
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dope both on my fantasy team!
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ew I just saw horang2 smile and laugh. That disgusting freak just earned himself an anti fan.
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I smell a good call by hite
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not too bad. i think kal will win.
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Man, ever since FPL started so many people's hopes and dreams are so skewed.
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On December 30 2009 14:46 konadora wrote:
wtf Kal vs YellOw[ArnC]
Makes logical sense. STX assumes Leta, send Kal to counter. Hite figures they will do this, so they send Yarnc to counter Kal. Only... yeah, twinz ZvP fighting! Maybe he has something special planned.
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konadora
Singapore66163 Posts
On December 30 2009 14:43 StuDToSs wrote:
c.zeroboy.net/Roffles for good quality
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=103494
On October 13 2009 21:04 GTR wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2009 18:43 T.O.P. wrote:
If there is a stream, someone will post it. If you ask for it, you'll get banned.
If one of you guys stalk our channels and post the link in TL because you see that we're streaming, we'll stop streaming. The stream is ready when it's ready and it's the streamers who should be posting the links.
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This is why you should have sent Hogil.
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Oh, Jesus. I want stx to win, but I didn't want Yarnc to suffer in the process
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Lol, I guess hite wanted to ZvZ snipe calm?
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On December 30 2009 14:47 LorD_PaLmersToN wrote:
dope both on my fantasy team!
guaranteed points, plus both get ace match appearance
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Nice pick by Sparkyz Coach.
Zero dominated so thoroughly in set 4 that it's natural he would be sent out for Ace match.
And Leta is the natural pick for Sparkyz.
So STX sent out Kal, since Kal would be heavily favored over Leta.
Hence, Sparkyz sent out Yarnc, would counters both Zero and Kal.
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what the?
kal vs fake yellow?
seriously?
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lol YellOw[ArnC], he's been doing so terrible lately, not to mention his infamous bad PvZ.
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Hope tonight's an indication that Yarnc has broken out of his slump like Luxury did earlier.
I hope Yarnc will soon overshadow his brother again and start playing more
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how are people saying this is a good choice? yarnc sucks terribad at zvp. maybe im confusing him with luxury?
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That's not Calm!!!
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STX is going to win 
Yarnc ZvP, FTL
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On December 30 2009 14:49 Sentient66 wrote:That's not Calm!!!
^ This. =(
Bah oh well, Kal fighting.
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Err, with Yarnc slumping I"m not so sure about this decision.
I guess outside of his slump Yarnc is the best Catch All player, being supposedly great vs Zerg and Terran, making him a good counter for the Calm/Hwasin option, but Kal is easily STX's best player for taking down both Leta and Yarnc.
Here's hoping for a crazy match.
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if lux can win so can yarnc
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i really hope yarnc wins so i can finally trade him off my fpl...him and type-b are probably the worst two people i could have possibly picked....
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On December 30 2009 14:48 Random_0 wrote:
Nice pick by Sparkyz Coach.
Zero dominated so thoroughly in set 4 that it's natural he would be sent out for Ace match.
And Leta is the natural pick for Sparkyz.
So STX sent out Kal, since Kal would be heavily favored over Leta.
Hence, Sparkyz sent out Yarnc, would counters both Zero and Kal.
ups nevermind wasnt watching
still zero and hero ^^
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On December 30 2009 14:51 7mk wrote:Show nested quote +On December 30 2009 14:48 Random_0 wrote:
Nice pick by Sparkyz Coach.
Zero dominated so thoroughly in set 4 that it's natural he would be sent out for Ace match.
And Leta is the natural pick for Sparkyz.
So STX sent out Kal, since Kal would be heavily favored over Leta.
Hence, Sparkyz sent out Yarnc, would counters both Zero and Kal. How can you confuse Zero and Calm..... twice.. T_T
...and Calm didn't even play set 4, that was hero.
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Sending Kal is a smart move since it abuses hite's weakness vs toss. It's not like they will send hogil out and risk pairing him with calm.
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Godzilla toss fightinggggg.
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On December 30 2009 14:51 7mk wrote:Show nested quote +On December 30 2009 14:48 Random_0 wrote:
Nice pick by Sparkyz Coach.
Zero dominated so thoroughly in set 4 that it's natural he would be sent out for Ace match.
And Leta is the natural pick for Sparkyz.
So STX sent out Kal, since Kal would be heavily favored over Leta.
Hence, Sparkyz sent out Yarnc, would counters both Zero and Kal. How can you confuse Zero and Calm..... twice.. T_T
Zero = hero in his post :p
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yea sorry, wasnt watching I just got home and naturally assumed he was talking about calm since stx would never ever send hero out for ace
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It's not often where you'd say Sparky's had a better chance of winning the Ace match with Hogil instead o.O
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You may all be haters of Yarnc, but I smell an upset. Says my mild fanboyism... But have faith
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It's kinda easy to guess since Kal lost his game. But YARNC?
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On December 30 2009 14:52 gemini24 wrote:
Sending Kal is a smart move since it abuses hite's weakness vs toss. It's not like they will send hogil out and risk pairing him with calm.
Leta's TvP isn't bad.
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On December 30 2009 14:54 7mk wrote:
yea sorry, wasnt watching I just got home and naturally assumed he was talking about calm since stx would never ever send hero out for ace
Hero got sent out for ace against ACE and won last round
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Whenever I see MS, I think of MS Paint, and not Myung Soo.
hmm.
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So, does hite think Yarnc has a higher chance to win against Kal than Leta does against Calm? :O
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Kal: The cure for Multiple Sclerosis!
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On December 30 2009 14:55 FireGuyX wrote:Show nested quote +On December 30 2009 14:52 gemini24 wrote:
Sending Kal is a smart move since it abuses hite's weakness vs toss. It's not like they will send hogil out and risk pairing him with calm. Leta's TvP isn't bad.
It is still considered his weakest matchup and he has yet to beat any protoss this season i believe.
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On December 30 2009 14:58 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Whenever I see MS, I think of MS Paint, and not Myung Soo.
hmm.
I always think of multiple sclerosis.
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On December 30 2009 14:58 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Whenever I see MS, I think of MS Paint, and not Myung Soo.
hmm.
microsoft.
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Yarnc not going 2-hatch. The game is over =(
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3-gate from Kal... Oh shit...
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interesting strat from kal. all in?
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
LOL what is this build? 1 base 3 gate slow zealot rush?
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3gate goon....i dont think yarnc will survive it
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
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3 gate goon vs. 3 hat hydra?
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Is this that weird 3 gate ranged goon rush thing? This should be fun.
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dl2agon
United States473 Posts
On December 30 2009 15:01 Guilty wrote:
3gate goon....i dont think yarnc will survive it
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On December 30 2009 14:59 GTR wrote:Show nested quote +On December 30 2009 14:58 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Whenever I see MS, I think of MS Paint, and not Myung Soo.
hmm. microsoft.
Maplestory. I win.
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i think oystein did this build on his stream today... it worked well for him(3gategoon)
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On December 30 2009 14:59 GTR wrote:Show nested quote +On December 30 2009 14:58 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Whenever I see MS, I think of MS Paint, and not Myung Soo.
hmm. microsoft.
Well, yes, Microsoft Paint is indeed the one I was referring to.
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So many idle larva.
HERE COME DA GOONS!
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Ah, Sonjjang. 3 gate goon isn't great on outsider though.
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PVZ IMBAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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ahahah....
damnit yarnc...
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such a rape, rofl
one all-in >>>>>>>> the other
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Too be fair, this would have beaten a lot of zergs... T.T
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lol, always good to see goon rush vs zerg.
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This is why I sunken up alot wen I play those damned 1-base builds..
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GG
well done kal, nice build and timing
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HITE keeps failing me this season!!!!!
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haha Smugtoss!! Reminds me of that game by Backho way back when. He did a dragoon hanbang and ppl were like rofl wtf mass goon vs Z. Good times :D
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STX team members all smiles.
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man I should have taken  Kwanro not [failAc]
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MrHoon
10183 Posts
Protoss is such a bane for Sparkys
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freaking zerg imba
god PvZ is so unfair it's impossible
wait... Kal won? nvm then.
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Thanks to wishbones for the stream.
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Dear Godzilla Toss,
I love you. GG.
-Judge
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Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
On December 30 2009 15:05 Megalisk wrote:
This is why I sunken up alot wen I play those damned 1-base builds..
I'm not even sure he knew it was a one-base build... it IS Outsider.
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I like this one-base 3 gate ranged goon rush. So simple yet to effective.
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United States33390 Posts
12 pool into 3 hatch is just so disgusting econ wise
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On December 30 2009 15:07 EvilTeletubby wrote:Show nested quote +On December 30 2009 15:05 Megalisk wrote:
This is why I sunken up alot wen I play those damned 1-base builds.. I'm not even sure he knew it was a one-base build... it IS Outsider.
Good point. He didn't try floating an OL there did he?
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yay kal saved my fantasy team
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Hite T.T Once again so close...
I can't really blame Yarnc for losing that. It's a build that Jaedong could just have easily lost to. Hopefully he'll get his revenge soon. -_-
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On December 30 2009 15:07 EvilTeletubby wrote:Show nested quote +On December 30 2009 15:05 Megalisk wrote:
This is why I sunken up alot wen I play those damned 1-base builds.. I'm not even sure he knew it was a one-base build... it IS Outsider.
Think he scouted gate with his OL
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Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
On December 30 2009 15:07 StorkHwaiting wrote:Show nested quote +On December 30 2009 15:07 EvilTeletubby wrote:On December 30 2009 15:05 Megalisk wrote:
This is why I sunken up alot wen I play those damned 1-base builds.. I'm not even sure he knew it was a one-base build... it IS Outsider. Good point. He didn't try floating an OL there did he?
Not to both sides I don't think.
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well, when one twin is up, the other is down; luxury comeback time anyone?
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Ya i really like seeing these goon builds.
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interesting play by kal... looks like something most zergs would lose to
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On December 30 2009 15:07 EvilTeletubby wrote:Show nested quote +On December 30 2009 15:05 Megalisk wrote:
This is why I sunken up alot wen I play those damned 1-base builds.. I'm not even sure he knew it was a one-base build... it IS Outsider.
Well he could have done SOME effort to try get some scouting intel. He saw Kal not putting up anything after the core finishes and waited for his goon to pop, still he just moved away his lord and never tried poking in again trying to see whats up.
Sure the build kinda rapes when the Z don`t scout it and only masses drones, but he really should have made some effort to scout what was up.
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On December 30 2009 15:09 Oystein wrote:Show nested quote +On December 30 2009 15:07 EvilTeletubby wrote:On December 30 2009 15:05 Megalisk wrote:
This is why I sunken up alot wen I play those damned 1-base builds.. I'm not even sure he knew it was a one-base build... it IS Outsider. Well he could have done SOME effort to try get some scouting intel. He saw Kal not putting up anything after the core finishes and waited for his goon to pop, still he just moved away his lord and never tried poking in again trying to see whats up. Sure the build kinda rapes when the Z don`t scout it and only masses drones, but he really should have made some effort to scout what was up.
Easier said that done. His goon was guarding any possibility of OL scouting. Besides, his gates were built in the corner of his base and his OL would never have made it there in time.
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Russian Federation405 Posts
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Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
On December 30 2009 15:09 Oystein wrote:Show nested quote +On December 30 2009 15:07 EvilTeletubby wrote:On December 30 2009 15:05 Megalisk wrote:
This is why I sunken up alot wen I play those damned 1-base builds.. I'm not even sure he knew it was a one-base build... it IS Outsider. Well he could have done SOME effort to try get some scouting intel. He saw Kal not putting up anything after the core finishes and waited for his goon to pop, still he just moved away his lord and never tried poking in again trying to see whats up. Sure the build kinda rapes when the Z don`t scout it and only masses drones, but he really should have made some effort to scout what was up.
Oh, definitely. Thus his abyssmal ZvP reputation.
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Lolzzz... MBC is currently showing that Bisu vs [NC]..YellOw game on HBR for one of the best picks of 2009. ^_^
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Hwasin vs Kal tommorow.
Smug toss has mental advantage from tonight's match.
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pripple
Finland1714 Posts
nooo i wanted Calm to be sent to the ace and win it ;<
Hite never seems to win the ace matches.
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On December 30 2009 15:44 pripple wrote:
nooo i wanted Calm to be sent to the ace and win it ;<
Hite never seems to win the ace matches.
Last season Leta was the king of Ace Matches.
TIMES HAVE CHANGED
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Baa?21243 Posts
Leta basically just fizzled out after his TvZ Wraith usage was figured out, that was the main thing that was carrying him.
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His TvT was arguably the best in the world at the time, too.
His TvP is nowhere near as good but he was capable of pulling out crazy wins, as seen in his sparse games vs the Dragons.
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Kal fighting! Thank god he finally got a chance in the ace again, I'm not even sure when was he last sent out as ace.
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On December 30 2009 16:39 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Leta basically just fizzled out after his TvZ Wraith usage was figured out, that was the main thing that was carrying him.
Similar thing to Lomo, I believe.
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On December 30 2009 15:10 asdfTT123 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 30 2009 15:09 Oystein wrote:On December 30 2009 15:07 EvilTeletubby wrote:On December 30 2009 15:05 Megalisk wrote:
This is why I sunken up alot wen I play those damned 1-base builds.. I'm not even sure he knew it was a one-base build... it IS Outsider. Well he could have done SOME effort to try get some scouting intel. He saw Kal not putting up anything after the core finishes and waited for his goon to pop, still he just moved away his lord and never tried poking in again trying to see whats up. Sure the build kinda rapes when the Z don`t scout it and only masses drones, but he really should have made some effort to scout what was up. Easier said that done. His goon was guarding any possibility of OL scouting. Besides, his gates were built in the corner of his base and his OL would never have made it there in time.
I agree. There just wasn't a easy way, he would have to have insane game sense to recognize that Kal wasn't going to tech and go for goon pressure.
And as for floating dual ovies to scout his base... Really now? How standard is that? He didn't have a reason to believe there was anything weird going on.
Face it, it was a really solid build.
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On December 30 2009 23:15 Abyzou wrote:Show nested quote +On December 30 2009 15:10 asdfTT123 wrote:On December 30 2009 15:09 Oystein wrote:On December 30 2009 15:07 EvilTeletubby wrote:On December 30 2009 15:05 Megalisk wrote:
This is why I sunken up alot wen I play those damned 1-base builds.. I'm not even sure he knew it was a one-base build... it IS Outsider. Well he could have done SOME effort to try get some scouting intel. He saw Kal not putting up anything after the core finishes and waited for his goon to pop, still he just moved away his lord and never tried poking in again trying to see whats up. Sure the build kinda rapes when the Z don`t scout it and only masses drones, but he really should have made some effort to scout what was up. Easier said that done. His goon was guarding any possibility of OL scouting. Besides, his gates were built in the corner of his base and his OL would never have made it there in time. I agree. There just wasn't a easy way, he would have to have insane game sense to recognize that Kal wasn't going to tech and go for goon pressure. And as for floating dual ovies to scout his base... Really now? How standard is that? He didn't have a reason to believe there was anything weird going on. Face it, it was a really solid build. I did not suggest floating dual ovies into the base, but he could have used the one ovie he had right outside his ramp that he floated away to at least TRY and scout what was up. Hell if he had moved it up into his main and sacrificed it he would have seen the spinning core, you don`t have to be a rocket scientist to expect goons then. What he opted for was moving away his lord and relying on a single ling for scouting, hell he did not even realize what Kal was doing until Kals army was already outside his own natural which left him with no time getting up sunks\units. Hell even if Kal had did 3gate speed zeals he would probably have raped him also.
And no it was not a SOLID build, it was an all in build that relied on Zerg not scouting it, because if he do its pretty much an auto loss. There is a reason for the saying "Assumptions, the mother of all fuck ups". If you make no effort to find out what someone who is 1baseing is doing, then you can`t complain when they roll you with something unexpected. Now maybe he would not have gained any intel with sacking his overlord, but he would at least have tried to find out what Kal was up to and then his loss would be easier to accept.
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I meant solid as in, it works when you can anticipate how the zerg will react. Saccing the overlord to scout isn't all that common.
In short, a good play led to a well deserved win.
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Kal vs 
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