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im really happy we get to sea hero play a ZvT. his style is so fun to watch.
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go sea!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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The first set looks really important for STX to gain the momentum. They'll need it to take down Sea, who has been playing great although this is his second TvZ this season, and/or Light who has been playing well in TvT. Hoping for a good series and STX getting some revenge for that 3-0 loss they took from MBC earlier.
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Let's go MBC! Sea and Light!
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Russian Federation405 Posts
Go go go GooJiLa!!!
By.GooJiLa FIGHTING!
Kim Ku Hyun for the win!
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Closer says neo tornado but has Outsider SE pictured.
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On December 05 2009 09:44 Nevuk wrote:
Closer says neo tornado but has Outsider SE pictured.
It was a placeholder while I get Neo-tornado as a small pic, but thanks
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Remove my stream please, something came up.
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konadora
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konadora
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btw first game should be on Outsider SE
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i'm gonna make the exact same prediction.3-0 mbc.
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Baa?21243 Posts
3-0 STX please. I have Calm/hero/Frozen/STX on FPL :D
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Can anyone tell me the name of the song that's played before every game?
The one that goes:
"how I live my life"
"blah blah blah"
"see it in your eyes"
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match will be over in <10 mins.
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calm going for a speedling break?
no gas
nvm
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Ahh, fail LRing but looks like Calm gg's after a failed ling all in
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spectacular fail by calm
loses 2 ovies, goes for one last attack then ggs
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omfg, what a fail by calm.
edit: at least it was over fast so we get to see sea earlier.
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12 pool vs 12 hatch ugh
12 hatching on outsider takes huge balls
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Hyun won against Calm twice in a row? lol
ZvZ is random indeed.
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knew this would happen.hyun is in bonjwa mode atm.
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On December 05 2009 13:16 SuperArc wrote:
Hyun won against Calm twice in a row? lol
ZvZ is random indeed.
Nah, face it; he's just better than Clam. 
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Hyun, my boy!! <3
MBC going for 3:0!!!
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man hero looking pretty pudgy these days
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For 12pool vs 12 hatch, the 12 hatch player gains a larvae advantage, an econ advantage, but a temporary gas disadvantage and has to worry about an early ling break. Would that be correct?
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On December 05 2009 13:24 meeple wrote:
man hero looking pretty pudgy these days
what do you mean "these days"
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On December 05 2009 13:24 meeple wrote:
man hero looking pretty pudgy these days
When has he not looked pudgy?
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konadora
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On December 05 2009 13:25 Crunchums wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2009 13:24 meeple wrote:
man hero looking pretty pudgy these days
what do you mean "these days"
He wasn't always quite this pudgy, he's definitel gained weight
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Light's on my main team, Frozen on my anti-team, I hope this FPL season doesn't start off really poorly for me.
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On December 05 2009 13:24 gemini24 wrote:
For 12pool vs 12 hatch, the 12 hatch player gains a larvae advantage, an econ advantage, but a temporary gas disadvantage and has to worry about an early ling break. Would that be correct?
the 12 hatch player has to worry about a ~5-10 second window where he is fighting speedlings with slowlings. the gas disadvantage is way less relevant than the larvae advantage.
12 hatch > 12pool is the biggest build order advantage in ZvZ; it's even bigger than 9pool vs 12hatch. I can't ever remember seeing the 12pooling player win.
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infested kona 
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It's amazing that Clam made it all the way through the MSL last season, beating the likes of Frogg, Efftor, Jadenog, and Kawnor.
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oh calm what happened, you beat effort and lose to hyun?
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T.O.P.
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new hbr center terrain looks ugly
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hero hiding his drone to get the extra scout, and perhaps scouting for proxies
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On December 05 2009 13:29 MuffinDude wrote:
oh calm what happened, you beat effort and lose to hyun?
build orders happened
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ooh hero mining out the min patch at the back of Sea's base
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On December 05 2009 13:29 MuffinDude wrote:
oh calm what happened, you beat effort and lose to hyun?
he had a bo advantage v effort and won
he had a bo disadvantage v hyun and lost
isnt zvz fun
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hey there baby<3
thanks alot
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konadora
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From: G3nXsiS [ Profile | Buddy ]
Subject: dumbass!
Date: 12/5/09 13:24
Dude, if you say you are gonna stream the MBC vs STX then stream it! If you can't or don't want to then don't say you are gonna stream it. Everyone missed the first match because you were playing. Next time if you say you are gonna stream, stream the thing at the start!
i lol'd
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51453 Posts
he has a point, if you aren't going to be there streaming for a certain duration, at least have the courtesy of taking it off the list on the right, especially when you are the only person 'streaming' the event.
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ahh sunken falls... but the marines get taken out before they do any real damage
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konadora
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two bunkers going up at sea's nat preparing for the lurkers
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On December 05 2009 13:34 Marine50 wrote:
I'm with G3nXsiS
me too.
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spire just now going up for hero
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konadora
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hmm hero still sticking to lair?
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mutas out, but plenty of turrets going up, hero shouldn't be able to do much with this
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konadora
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looool mutas can't do ANYTHING
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Hero confused because he can't just spam tier 1 tech like in ZvP.
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mutas still futilely trying to find a hole...
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science fac up, vessel should come out any minute
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Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
 Sea's defense against mutas is very hot.
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On December 05 2009 13:37 EvoChamber wrote:
Hero confused because he can't just spam tier 1 tech like in ZvP.
lol
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konadora
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On December 05 2009 13:37 EvoChamber wrote:
Hero confused because he can't just spam tier 1 tech like in ZvP.
lol seriously
defiler mound going up only now
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hive done and defiler den placed... but I don't think it will be in time to stop the push
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uh-oh, defilers won't come out in time.
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konadora
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lolol loses most lurkers for 2 tanks
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Sea just cleaning Hero up right now.
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egads, lurkers fall like hotcakes... sea pushing further in
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konadora
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nice forced targetting kills a few marines
but not gonna be enough
sea crosses last ridge
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konadora
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LOL
defiler irradiate + tank snipe
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Lings manage to clean up most of the marines, but more are on the way... needs swarn asap
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Sea surfing wave after wave of zerg units. This is over.
Nice muta switch, hero.
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Sea wrecking Hero's natural.
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Sea taking a third, queens nest falling soon... sigh
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sea is really good, damn 
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So that's where JD's deathstare went.
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Sea has his own death stare now.
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konadora
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consume done, but he's only got drones to consume.
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oh man, slow hydras fighting marines
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whoa.sea stole jd's death stare!!!
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konadora
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and Sea rolls hero! hero gg's.
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plague goes off, but this is far too late and too little to do anything
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awesome play by sea
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Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Those dark swarms would've been really good... ... ... if the three defilers under them had some kind of offensive capability.
GG.
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gg from hero... MBC might roll them 3-0 tonight
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
Yawn 3-0 mbc incoming...
No way Frozean beats Light k.
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Sea beating an aggressive zerg for once? Maybe he is more than a one map, one matchup wonder.
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this doesn't look good, at all
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Deathstare from Sea, hes on FIRE!
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lol this match might be over in less than an hour.
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konadora
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sea's blinking hard, his eyes hurt too much from death stares
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Uuuuh Light your hair is awful. You are not an anime character.
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fpl fail, all three losers so far have been on my team
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On December 05 2009 13:45 LetMeShine wrote:
Uuuuh Light your hair is awful. You are not an anime character.
LOL
2 years late.
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On December 05 2009 13:47 Jyvblamo wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2009 13:45 LetMeShine wrote:
Uuuuh Light your hair is awful. You are not an anime character. LOL 2 years late.
Yeah I just noticed ahahaha.
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Man, Sea is good! I'm still dumbfounded by how this guy hasn't even been close to a Starleague final.
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Sea!! <3
Now Light will win and MBC has this!!!! <3<3<3
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On December 05 2009 13:27 Crunchums wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On December 05 2009 13:24 gemini24 wrote:
For 12pool vs 12 hatch, the 12 hatch player gains a larvae advantage, an econ advantage, but a temporary gas disadvantage and has to worry about an early ling break. Would that be correct? the 12 hatch player has to worry about a ~5-10 second window where he is fighting speedlings with slowlings. the gas disadvantage is way less relevant than the larvae advantage. 12 hatch > 12pool is the biggest build order advantage in ZvZ; it's even bigger than 9pool vs 12hatch. I can't ever remember seeing the 12pooling player win.
Thanks, Crunchums
Hero's "surprise" muta switch seemed to delay his hive tech too much and ended up costing him. Sea was doing an excellent job scouting and simply spoiled all of hero's plans.
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GO CUTEANGEL. Be the one to reverse this battle
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Light in Purple
Frozean in Green
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On December 05 2009 13:56 ZeaL. wrote:
GO CUTEANGEL. Be the one to reverse this battle
he'd best roll over and die.
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Goddammit now I have to cheer for Frozean so Kal can play T_T
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konadora
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LOL
light with scv mistake
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Baa?21243 Posts
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haha light messes up while spamming XD
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Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Hahaha, Light fails at scv control.
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51453 Posts
light got nervous and fucked up somewhat =[
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On December 05 2009 13:48 Holgerius wrote:
Man, Sea is good! I'm still dumbfounded by how this guy hasn't even been close to a Starleague final.
tends to happen if you fail in the offlines against scrubs
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Erm, a little mismicro from Light, a couple scvs stack on the same mineral patch
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konadora
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lol at Korean picnic !
Go Frozean
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51453 Posts
haha girls caught eating chicken in the stadium =[
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OOO I want some chicken now
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Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
TWOOOOOOOOOO POOOOOOOORT
(for Light)
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Light going two port, cuteangel with 1 fac cc
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Light getting two starports
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On December 05 2009 13:58 SuperArc wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2009 13:48 Holgerius wrote:
Man, Sea is good! I'm still dumbfounded by how this guy hasn't even been close to a Starleague final. tends to happen if you fail in the offlines against scrubs
Well, that is what's so weird to me. Sea is such a fucking solid player, and still he gets knocked out by newbies.
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still no detection/aa from frozean, this two port might be really effective
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frozean's going to be completely unprepared
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Academy just now going up
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Cuteangel getting armory, dont know if it will be in time with a wraith in his base already
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"Wraiths are paper airplanes"
- Korean Commentator
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Armory now that he sees the wraiths... grr must be frustrating
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those 2 ports remind me of Boxer vs NaDa
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Frozean pumping marines to combat the wraiths
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why did i chose stx as my team, whyyyyyy
fuck
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Nice micro from the wraiths... a decent amount of scv and marine kills so far
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Not sure if the harass put Light on top, but he did get a lot of scvs
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On December 05 2009 14:03 Itachii wrote:
why did i chose stx as my team, whyyyyyy
fuck
I feel ya, I hope CuteAngel can help them not get 3-0'd
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On December 05 2009 14:03 Itachii wrote:
why did i chose stx as my team, whyyyyyy
fuck
These things happen, man.
These things happen.
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Frozean sneaking his army around the top...
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konadora
Singapore66163 Posts
o_O frozean slowly gaining points
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light wtf? two academies fail T>T
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doubleupgradeobbies!
Australia1187 Posts
Lol Hyun wins, hero loses, my fpl is already tanking, and it's the first game.
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konadora
Singapore66163 Posts
dual academy upgrade build for light
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Wait is Light getting two academies?
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Light continuing to produce wraiths...
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Nice, wraiths cloak and take out the 2 goliaths, then start on the tanks...
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Wow Frozean T_T wraiths raping
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konadora
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oh god.. what the hell cuteangel
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man those wraiths are just killing everything
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Frozean expanding to 2 oclock
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light still has no armory i don't think
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how is frozean this bad...
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you don't bring a knife to a gun fight
unless you're cuteangel apparently
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konadora
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Wraiths ARE like paper planes... but when your opponent has no anti-air, they become paper planes of doom.
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Light now taking a third, Frozean producing a lot more goliaths now that the wraiths are getting so scary.. but wastes a scan
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Wraiths spot the third, take out the scv building the turret, but gol's chase them off
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I would be so pissed of if I was Frozean; I hate when people go wraiths against me in TvT.
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thats the old good(bad) frozean we used to know
ffs so pissed
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Nice vulture harass from Light... kills a ton of scvs
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konadora
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On December 05 2009 14:07 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Wraiths ARE like paper planes... but when your opponent has no anti-air, they become paper planes of doom.
as one of the commentators said some time ago
wraiths are like paper planes
but like paper, if you stack them up, not even a bullet can go through it
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konadora
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Frozean had a Valkyrie but gets demolished by the pack of Wraiths.
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Light taking a 4th at 5 oclock
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Wraiths killing off Frozean's Sci Fac.
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frozen losing his sci facility for no real reason
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Light takes out the science fac with his wraiths... those things are made of gold
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Rofl, Frozean loses scouting science lab to wraiths. Just gg already :/
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kal didn't even get to play and i traded him for stork in the last mins T___T
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frozean has been rolled over in so many ways that i am done watching lol D: bb for next game
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Man Light is using his wraiths well. He's killing everything with them.
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Just look at the mini map this is already GG
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Light spots Frozean's 4th and stops if with a single vulture...
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konadora
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Light taking a 5th now at 9 oclock
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Light finally ready to finish this game...
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Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Surprise wraiths essentially were what has won Light this game, he was on the way to losing after a mysteriously terrible two port, but with the rebuilding of wraiths at that weird timing, you've gotta think he has an insurmountable edge now.
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frozean is such a joke. just die
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Funny how Light's error that forced him to 2-port won him the game (though I figure he would've won otherwise).
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Huge drop in Frozeans main!!! lots of tanks
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Whoa... that drop got cleaned up so fast, barely did anything
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Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
On December 05 2009 14:14 tree.hugger wrote:Surprise wraiths essentially were what has won Light this game, he was on the way to losing after a mysteriously terrible two port, but with the rebuilding of wraiths at that weird timing, you've gotta think he has an insurmountable edge now.
Unless, of course, Light makes a terrible terrible drop in FrOzean's main.
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Light now taking a 6th at 12, once this goes up he'll be two bases up on Frozean
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konadora
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Frozean, you might want to split those tanks. You have them all touching each other...
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LIght not even bothering to siege
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gg from frozean, mbc wins 3-0
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All i know is that academys just don't kill air units...
GG there
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On December 05 2009 14:12 konadora wrote:
failkyrie
Dude, that's lame.
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That was such a sloppy game. Light misclicks his scvs, buildss two academies, and Frozean countering wraiths with an academy.
I think the map changes helped Light out also, since im not too sure if he got a big enough advantage from his 2port. From his position, his third that he chose would have been a mineral instead of a gas i think.
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On December 05 2009 14:22 gemini24 wrote:
That was such a sloppy game. Light misclicks his scvs, buildss two academies, and Frozean countering wraiths with an academy.
I think the map changes helped Light out also, since im not too sure if he got a big enough advantage from his 2port. From his position, his third that he chose would have been a mineral instead of a gas i think.
Well frozean did counter with an armory as soon as he saw the wraiths... I'm not sure why people say he countered wrong. Besides he did need the scans
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As I said!! good game MBC!!!
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On December 05 2009 14:26 meeple wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2009 14:22 gemini24 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +That was such a sloppy game. Light misclicks his scvs, buildss two academies, and Frozean countering wraiths with an academy.
I think the map changes helped Light out also, since im not too sure if he got a big enough advantage from his 2port. From his position, his third that he chose would have been a mineral instead of a gas i think. Well frozean did counter with an armory as soon as he saw the wraiths... I'm not sure why people say he countered wrong. Besides he did need the scans
Yea you are right, I guess i'm just a little disappointed about another 0-3 loss to MBC.
It looked like Frozean seemed to be getting back into the game, but Light's harassment on Frozean's expos along with getting his own expos up swung the econ advantage in his favor
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Meh...Sea wins, good enough for me~
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Thanks for the update... I assume Shin is just Korean for "new"?
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On December 05 2009 13:27 Crunchums wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2009 13:24 gemini24 wrote:
For 12pool vs 12 hatch, the 12 hatch player gains a larvae advantage, an econ advantage, but a temporary gas disadvantage and has to worry about an early ling break. Would that be correct? the 12 hatch player has to worry about a ~5-10 second window where he is fighting speedlings with slowlings. the gas disadvantage is way less relevant than the larvae advantage. 12 hatch > 12pool is the biggest build order advantage in ZvZ; it's even bigger than 9pool vs 12hatch. I can't ever remember seeing the 12pooling player win.
So you are allowed to go on about a BO win, but i am not?
Also, Jaedong has beaten Zero twice before with 12 pool vs 12 hatch.
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On December 05 2009 15:03 meeple wrote:Thanks for the update... I assume Shin is just Korean for "new"?
I guess so since korean came from chinese and it sounds a lot like chinese's new.
新 - xing
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the thing about 12pool vs. 12hatch (or any build that's disadvantaged aka. 9pool vs. 12pool) you basically need to do a break-attempt right before spire pops, that's your biggest chanse of winning basically.
BUT FUCK YEAH MBC! SEA KING OF PROLEAGUE
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Good Job MBC !
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Man good thing I went Frozean/Hero/Soul/Arnc today. I think I'm automatically out of the game at this point because I couldn't pick the KT team I wanted. =(
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I got my predictions right again
guess i'm becoming psychic
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roflowned i'm so happy MBC got their stuff together this year!
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Goddamit STX stop not putting Kal in the first 3 games!!!
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On December 05 2009 20:13 JohnColtrane wrote:
WTF STX
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pripple
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another 3-0 versus STX for MBC, HyuN the ZvZ master!
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OH MY GOD THIS IS RIDICC!!!!
nice 3-0 baby
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man calm is slipping bad D:
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Why is STX sending frozean out when they have hwasin and bogus?
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On December 05 2009 23:47 pripple wrote:
another 3-0 versus STX for MBC, HyuN the ZvZ master!
Isn't Hyun Hyuk's cousin? i heard that somewhere and dont know if its true, but it would be awesome if it was XD
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