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On October 15 2009 19:02 okum wrote:
Holy crap Flash, you scared me there.
Can anyone explain why Daezang's first push was able to do so much damage?
I wasn't watching too closely, but it looks like he was playing his fast upgrades build which is already vulnerable to timing attacks. The added dropship play only compounded the vulnerability. I'm guessing Daezang practiced hard to hit the timing window against fast upgrades but didn't expect the drop against him which cut down his reinforcements. Had he not bungled against the drop so spectacularly, I'm pretty sure we'd be seeing a lot of Flash fan tears right now amongst cries of Protoss imbalance.
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On October 15 2009 19:18 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Daezan G had a really early third and a lot of units when he attacked, even after the probe rape. Flash was building a CC and trying to get an econ advantage at the time and Daezang chose a great time to attack. Flash didn't do anything wrong that game, Daezan just made a good call and came up a bit short to Flash's superior play (The ninja expo helped but honestly the roll that happened at the end there, I'm not sure he needed it).
Yeah the Probe explosion definitely didn't affect the 3 base timing push that he was going for anyway.
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lol konas stream they were singing in swedish hahahahaha
Korean anime dubbed with swedish wtf
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lol those scourge need glasses
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Oh wow banned for checking in on Solin's stream, jesus.
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Hmm, progamers keep doing that a lot. Running corsairs back to a cannon, then stopping there, letting the scourges catch up when the corsair SHOULD be safe. Real sloppy, seen Jangbi and Bisu do it a few times as well.
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On October 15 2009 19:19 Syntax Lost wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2009 19:02 okum wrote:
Holy crap Flash, you scared me there.
Can anyone explain why Daezang's first push was able to do so much damage? I wasn't watching too closely, but it looks like he was playing his fast upgrades build which is already vulnerable to timing attacks. The added dropship play only compounded the vulnerability. I'm guessing Daezang practiced hard to hit the timing window against fast upgrades but didn't expect the drop against him which cut down his reinforcements. Had he not bungled against the drop so spectacularly, I'm pretty sure we'd be seeing a lot of Flash fan tears right now amongst cries of Protoss imbalance.
Meh, Flash fans like myself have been pretty hard on him lately. Even with this win most of us are left wanting more - if he had lost he would have deserved it.
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On October 15 2009 19:21 darktreb wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2009 19:18 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Daezan G had a really early third and a lot of units when he attacked, even after the probe rape. Flash was building a CC and trying to get an econ advantage at the time and Daezang chose a great time to attack. Flash didn't do anything wrong that game, Daezan just made a good call and came up a bit short to Flash's superior play (The ninja expo helped but honestly the roll that happened at the end there, I'm not sure he needed it). Yeah the Probe explosion definitely didn't affect the 3 base timing push that he was going for anyway.
I'm not sure if this is sarcasm or not.
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Yes, put that harass on Sashin!
Then merge those into a DA and let's put all the theories to test!
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On October 15 2009 19:22 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Oh wow banned for checking in on Solin's stream, jesus.
qft
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On October 15 2009 19:19 Syntax Lost wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2009 19:02 okum wrote:
Holy crap Flash, you scared me there.
Can anyone explain why Daezang's first push was able to do so much damage? I wasn't watching too closely, but it looks like he was playing his fast upgrades build which is already vulnerable to timing attacks. The added dropship play only compounded the vulnerability. I'm guessing Daezang practiced hard to hit the timing window against fast upgrades but didn't expect the drop against him which cut down his reinforcements. Had he not bungled against the drop so spectacularly, I'm pretty sure we'd be seeing a lot of Flash fan tears right now amongst cries of Protoss imbalance.
Yeah, that makes sense. It's not uncommon for Flash to get hit by that early timing attack, barely hold on, then bounce back and steamroll with his upgrades finished a bit later. It just looked a bit worse than usual this time, probably because of the dropship investment. Those vultures' mines between him and Daezang's army also could've made a difference. All the probes Flash got instead probably helped him a little in the lategame, but didn't have much influence on Daezang's push since D's units were already built.
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gah, terrible observer jumping back and forth. :[
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True Sashin style, saving his ass with DTs
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konadora
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WTF?
LOSES 2 HTS WITHOUT DOING ANYTHING
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What the hell was that? No storm energy?
Biggest letdown ever!
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Dude wtf. Anytime defended almost perfectly during the first wave and still gets rolled. :/
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On October 15 2009 19:24 TwoToneTerran wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2009 19:21 darktreb wrote:On October 15 2009 19:18 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Daezan G had a really early third and a lot of units when he attacked, even after the probe rape. Flash was building a CC and trying to get an econ advantage at the time and Daezang chose a great time to attack. Flash didn't do anything wrong that game, Daezan just made a good call and came up a bit short to Flash's superior play (The ninja expo helped but honestly the roll that happened at the end there, I'm not sure he needed it). Yeah the Probe explosion definitely didn't affect the 3 base timing push that he was going for anyway. I'm not sure if this is sarcasm or not.
Haha I didn't mean it to be sarcasm but I worded it poorly. In my opinion it didn't affect his initial wave (which was already being made, possibly because he planned it and possibly because Flash denied his 4th so many times) that he pushed with.
But of course it had repercussions afterward.
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EPT
