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jjun212
Canada2208 Posts
i remember how elky made his own version of a bamboo rush for tvp and i just wanted to know how to do it? i've tried but failed horribly in public games.. and thats another thing, i cant seem to find a good game nowadays and just arhhhhhhh anyone know how to help? thx | ||
GTR
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choujji
Japan203 Posts
i m sure his replay packs has more than enough wins with that rush for u to learn it | ||
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maareek
United States2042 Posts
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choujji
Japan203 Posts
edit: my bad. i just checked out the replay database and it was liquid~drone and not elky | ||
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jjun212
Canada2208 Posts
and i can copy what he does but many protoss users know how to defend it now so i wanna also know how to continue the push without dying to say reavers or 3 gate goons | ||
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phexac
United States186 Posts
That said, it's obviously a vaible build because Gundam did well with it on very high level. It's hard as fuck to pull off if toss can micro. The first of you to slip loses. | ||
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jjun212
Canada2208 Posts
its a gundam but not a gundam i wanna learn both T_T | ||
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VerticalHorizon
United States415 Posts
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Addicted`To`Zerg
Bulgaria1353 Posts
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RedDress
Poland229 Posts
fact+addon suply fact tank + mines upgrade in addon vulture vulture vulture + scv and go , after mines upgrade make sige mode. | ||
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GroT
Belgium3003 Posts
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NeverTheEndlessWiz
Singapore827 Posts
^_^ | ||
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GroT
Belgium3003 Posts
basicly if you gundam against a fast robotics build you move out with 3-4 rines, a vulture and a tank and 1-3 scvs depending on what yoy prefer. Without range the toss can't prevent you from containing him with a bunker (powerful early game) . You also get to check out how many units he has as he will obviously use all of them in an effort to stop you, and too few units will betray a reaver drop or a ridiculously greedy brainless fast expo, the reaver drop is stoppable and the greedy fast expo has no chance if he went fast robotics and then DT for dt drop you should be able to scout it even before u move out, he'll have like 1 goon and wont be able to leave his base at all against 2gate range he'll have so many goons that you have to wait for your second tank to move out, but you can already send a lone vulture to try and get in some mines in a key spot when you have 2 tanks you'll be able to push him back even though he'll have a lot of goons, and hopefully he'll run into a mine here or there because of his lack of early game observers against 1 gate range into robo you will most certainly have the most difficult time, and I think it's the best (standard) build for P to use vs a gundaming terran. You should play similarly to how you would play if he had gone 2gate range.. that is, your opening vulture is crucial again and it will have to plant mines behind his goons. Annoying thing for the p here is that he can't wait for an observer to check out if you are expanding so you can do elky's fake gundam build and he'll likely end up going 3 gate against a fast expanding terran which is bad you shouldn't try to leave your contain and actually attack unless he already fucked up and lost units. You can siege and force him away from his choke when your ion thrusters are done, allowing you for a real easy vulture harass that is very hard to stop for the p if he doesn't fuck up you stay with your contain preventing him from expanding and use mines to monitor any shuttle movement out of his base if i were toss my standard build vs T would be fast robo, so against gundam i'd get contained, i wouldn't waste any units, i'd go 3gate with leg ups and goon range, be patient and defend against vults for a little while, ferry out some units with a shuttle, attack the containment from both sides, and finally expo. If all of that goes well you will be ahead in macro and the terran will likely resort to dropship harass so you should make a lot of observers and go in harass defend mode. overall keep in mind that gundam 's build is very old and with him around there is no good player using it anymore and therefore no good way to defend its viability. Maybe it's just not viable anymore. | ||
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GroT
Belgium3003 Posts
but I can't relate to protoss users who just blindly go 2gate range in advance because they "expect" a gundam or whatever, I don't understand that kind of move even when I see kickass tosses do it maybe they like 2gate range goons against other terran builds as well, I sure don't and I also hope they wouldn't do that on LT | ||
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GroT
Belgium3003 Posts
you can find succesful fake gundams in the elky vs rekrul liquibition | ||
RaGe
Belgium9950 Posts
On April 03 2005 08:20 GroT wrote: if i were toss my standard build vs T would be fast robo, so against gundam i'd get contained, i wouldn't waste any units, i'd go 3gate with leg ups and goon range, be patient and defend against vults for a little while, ferry out some units with a shuttle, attack the containment from both sides, and finally expo. If all of that goes well you will be ahead in macro and the terran will likely resort to dropship harass so you should make a lot of observers and go in harass defend mode. well,you did that vs me on LT, but instead of holding the contain I just put 3 tanks there around the choke and some mines and then take my exp, so you just get an advantage when he comes down his choke with some units,cause you lose less then he does and started your expand earlier on. or in your case you totally obliterate the contain with almost zero casualties a bit later on with the shuttle ferrying and stuff and you exp much later than the terran, terran hereby having a even larger advantage. Nice post though, maybe you should add it to your sticky, cause it gives a nice summary of the goals of a gundam rush,of the pros and the cons, and of how to counter it | ||
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GroT
Belgium3003 Posts
i could have just had my first observer on your natural, saw when you expanded and walked over you.. but instead i kinda just lost track of the observer alltogether and never looked at it anymore you played it all wrong | ||
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GroT
Belgium3003 Posts
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koit
United States450 Posts
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