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iD.Surv
Profile Joined April 2004
Belgium827 Posts
March 15 2005 16:51 GMT
#21
Is it a must? I would implement it in my pvt if it is really usefull. I know once u get it it will have his advantages but do ya need it to control the game?
Misca
Profile Joined September 2002
Netherlands605 Posts
March 15 2005 19:49 GMT
#22
it very handy to keep up with vultures and dropships.

It's no must, but it's very usefull to stop harassments.
LastWish
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
2015 Posts
March 15 2005 20:01 GMT
#23
-obs. speed main reason as rekrul said is to keep after goons mainly because of killing minefields. Also speed may help if terran builds turret and your obs is nearby it will run faster from tower take less damage and hopefully survive. Catching dropships with obs may be an interesting idea though if u place your buildings/units effectively over the map u don't need it.
-obs range main reason would probably be to scan a greater part of terran camp when it has already been turreted.
- It's all just treason - They bring me down with their lies - Don't know the reason - My life is fire and ice -
Pent
Profile Joined September 2004
Russian Federation270 Posts
March 27 2005 22:33 GMT
#24
Basically my opinion is: if you cannot determine difference between wide-range and non-upgraded obs, don't do the upgrade. If you do feel difference between fast and slow obs, do upgrade when you have free money. The first rule of BW!! Along with "explore", "build appropriate units", "never stay idle" etc.
#1,000,067 Boxer fan.
MANIAC LATINO
Profile Joined August 2005
United States3 Posts
August 16 2005 04:37 GMT
#25
if you knew how to play well enough, you should have enough resources to get both when you first start making obs
MANIAC LATIN
exalted
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States3612 Posts
August 16 2005 04:45 GMT
#26
On August 16 2005 13:37 MANIAC LATINO wrote:
if you knew how to play well enough, you should have enough resources to get both when you first start making obs


Ban plz.

Get speed when he's going heavy harass, range if he's going more turtle style -> post max you should definitely get both in the end.
too easy
DooMeR
Profile Joined July 2003
United States1519 Posts
August 16 2005 05:00 GMT
#27
On March 15 2005 10:48 NonY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2005 10:31 Famouzze wrote:
why would getting obs speed be related to the terran having dropships?


im guessing you dont know this since it's not related to DT-rushing.. but dropships are faster than obs without speed. so with speed upgrade, you can right click dship and follow it, whereas without speed upgrade, you basically can't know where the ship is at all times without mass obs


lol nony got jokes
CastlesInTheSky
Profile Joined June 2005
United States40 Posts
August 16 2005 05:40 GMT
#28
I generally get it after my second gas starts kicking in. It helps a lot with clearing mines and not worrying about ob getting ahead of goons.
Knowledge speaks but wisdom listens. ~Jimi Hendrix
Caution
Profile Joined September 2004
2059 Posts
August 16 2005 18:37 GMT
#29
Please don't reopen 5 month old threads especially if your going to provide false advice -_-
FireBlast!
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United Kingdom5251 Posts
August 16 2005 19:00 GMT
#30
What a massive bump. :/
Though this is a pretty interesting topic and I missed it back then :o

Obs speed usually depends on the build, the 150-150 can be invested into a hundred other things. IMO though most of the time people get it too early because slow units piss them off.
Victoria Concordia Crescit
Codditer
Profile Joined March 2004
United States70 Posts
November 26 2005 05:20 GMT
#31
I used to get it whenever I had any carriers, otherwise the obs couldn't keep up. I'm not sure if it's a worthy investment before that - never tried it =]
no u
nArAnjO
Profile Joined October 2002
Peru2571 Posts
November 26 2005 05:36 GMT
#32
On March 15 2005 10:48 NonY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2005 10:31 Famouzze wrote:
why would getting obs speed be related to the terran having dropships?


im guessing you dont know this since it's not related to DT-rushing.. but dropships are faster than obs without speed. so with speed upgrade, you can right click dship and follow it, whereas without speed upgrade, you basically can't know where the ship is at all times without mass obs


Actually in my experience speed obs got nothing to do with dropships :/, if u spread your obs good enough u will always see where dropships are heading to. You just get shuttles with speed vs dropships... Why u want obs? so u see how terran drops at ur cliff and u die?, way better to have actual defense vs that than just seeing it happen don u think? ^^
hasuwar
Profile Joined April 2003
7365 Posts
November 26 2005 06:42 GMT
#33
gag at this thread revival and the poster above me
Diablo3 ID: Exalted#1710 -------R.I.P. http://hasuwar.isgsa.org. Much love to Toptalent
Luhh
Profile Joined October 2003
Sweden2974 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-11-26 07:34:44
November 26 2005 07:03 GMT
#34
Speed imo is better PvT than PvZ, and range PvZ than PvT. Personal impression, though I generally not concern myself that much with it. Sometimes I lose matches because of neglecting this, but mostly it doesn't really matter.

Oh, novememberer agustusus... nm.
I wouldn´t call him stupid, but let´s just say he´s unlucky when thinking...
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22259 Posts
November 26 2005 07:49 GMT
#35
On November 26 2005 15:42 hasuwar wrote:
gag at this thread revival and the poster above me


I'm genuinely confused as to how newbies find these old ass threads and then decide to post in them anyways.
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
Luhh
Profile Joined October 2003
Sweden2974 Posts
November 26 2005 08:05 GMT
#36
Because they are told to use the search function.
I wouldn´t call him stupid, but let´s just say he´s unlucky when thinking...
NeverTheEndlessWiz
Profile Joined November 2003
Singapore827 Posts
November 26 2005 20:11 GMT
#37
On November 26 2005 17:05 Luhh wrote:
Because they are told to use the search function.


No coz they didn't bother to really read the Recommended Threads topic started by grot?
Retired Brood War player / WCG SG Top 8 for 2002, 2003, 2004, retired, then made minor comeback to Top 8 at 2008. 2009 = bleh xD
stLm
Profile Joined May 2007
United States9 Posts
May 29 2007 23:56 GMT
#38
i dont get observer speed..just get more observers
ilovezil
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4143 Posts
May 29 2007 23:57 GMT
#39
..................................................................................

Look at the date of your post and look at the date of the last post, look at your content, and tell me if you think what you posted was in any way smart or necessary
badteeth
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands1416 Posts
May 30 2007 01:22 GMT
#40
THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU DON'T RESEARCH YOUR OB SPEED.
no quote for you! ehh, damn.
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