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SainT
Profile Joined February 2005
Chile1067 Posts
February 22 2005 22:39 GMT
#21
Wow Strafe i didi learn a lot with this, but i found pretty odd the scout part, i would never imagine something like that... is it really imporant to make it? maybe the battery could wrok i don't know...
Well i'm a lucky man...
Louder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States2276 Posts
February 22 2005 22:55 GMT
#22
Every time I've ever used 1 gate scout, zerg has assumed I was going sair and made fast hydra =P Never works out quite the way I see it in replays where zergs timidly pump drones and lings and wait for a lair before they do anything at all T_T
ParasitJonte
Profile Joined September 2004
Sweden1768 Posts
February 22 2005 22:58 GMT
#23
On February 22 2005 06:07 {ToT}Strafe wrote:
what rekrul said.


omg omg omg, you stole my comment and I was gonna look gosu with it...
Hello=)
{ToT}Strafe
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Thailand7026 Posts
February 22 2005 23:08 GMT
#24
On February 23 2005 07:55 Louder wrote:
Every time I've ever used 1 gate scout, zerg has assumed I was going sair and made fast hydra =P Never works out quite the way I see it in replays where zergs timidly pump drones and lings and wait for a lair before they do anything at all T_T


If they try to mass ling you because you 1 gate, scouts are very usefull, you will see they have no hydras.
rpf289
Profile Joined October 2004
United States3524 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-02-23 01:38:23
February 23 2005 01:27 GMT
#25
Hmm, here's a rep of me using 1gate Scout. I lose the game because I'm a dumbass. By the way, I played this in nilla with some friends from East at like 2 am. I didn't play my best. =| Any advice would be nice. =)
Insane
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States4991 Posts
February 23 2005 01:36 GMT
#26
On February 23 2005 10:27 rpf289 wrote:
Hmm, here's a rep of me using 1gate Scout. I lose the game because I'm a dumbass. By the way, I played this in nilla with some friends from East at like 2 am. I won't play my best. =| Any advice would be nice. =)

Where?
rpf289
Profile Joined October 2004
United States3524 Posts
February 23 2005 01:38 GMT
#27
lol, I just realized I forgot the link. I just edited it, so it is there now.
MaTRiX[SiN]
Profile Joined September 2003
Sweden1282 Posts
February 23 2005 02:19 GMT
#28
On February 23 2005 07:55 Louder wrote:
Every time I've ever used 1 gate scout, zerg has assumed I was going sair and made fast hydra =P Never works out quite the way I see it in replays where zergs timidly pump drones and lings and wait for a lair before they do anything at all T_T
same :p
aka StormtoSS
Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
February 23 2005 03:11 GMT
#29
I always thought sair/dt was viable late game?
EchoOfRain
Profile Joined November 2004
United States516 Posts
February 23 2005 04:11 GMT
#30
who said its not?
quote
rpf289
Profile Joined October 2004
United States3524 Posts
February 23 2005 04:12 GMT
#31
It is. Opening with it does have it's advantages, however.
Knickknack
Profile Joined February 2004
United States1187 Posts
February 23 2005 05:29 GMT
#32
i liked it, im going to try to do fast stargate and dt more.

on a related note:
check out game 2 from this best of 3 series
http://yaoyuan.com/show.php?SID=34244

basically 2fastz, fast tech to scout vs 12hatch=toss advantage. see the dt come out when toss sees the hydras. then gosu storming to win.
| www.ArtofProtoss.vze.com |
Fayth[pG]
Profile Joined March 2004
Canada1093 Posts
February 23 2005 05:54 GMT
#33
If you see 3 hatch hydras with ur sair, u'd rather not expand off 1 gate dt to ht and storm, hydras + slow ovi will kill you
oOa
Fayth[pG]
Profile Joined March 2004
Canada1093 Posts
February 23 2005 05:54 GMT
#34
Unless it's some mediocre or worst player..
oOa
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
February 23 2005 06:02 GMT
#35
On February 23 2005 14:54 Fayth[pG] wrote:
If you see 3 hatch hydras with ur sair, u'd rather not expand off 1 gate dt to ht and storm, hydras + slow ovi will kill you

Wrong ^_^
There was a huge ass discussion about this before, and basically the top people agreed that the person who said what you said (iD.zymotic I think) was wrong :>
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Venlow
Profile Joined September 2004
United States110 Posts
February 23 2005 06:44 GMT
#36
On February 23 2005 06:47 {ToT}Strafe wrote:
Err.. sigh I'll help! mainly cuz I just woke up and am bored

If you decide to 1 gate vs zerg on LT, first of all make sure its not 12-3. Make sure you know he plays safe, else its always better to 9/11 or 9/10 to kill his fast expand, or do lots of damage with it.

So you start to play 1 gate. Make 8 pylon and 9 gate for a fast zeal which you can use to harass z a little. Keep the zeal alive as long as possible and take drones out where possible. Dont bother killing sunkens or even a hatch Make 12 gas and 16 pylon 17 core and rush to stargate and archives as fast as possible, but make sure you got your choke defended with 2 zealots. If you scout zerg going mass zerglings which is a counter vs 1 gate then keep the zealots coming from your gate and add an battery to your choke and make a scout instead of a corsair. This requires you to skip probes. Dont feel reluctant to skip a few probes every now and then.

So lets say he didnt 2 hathc ling but, something else. Your sair will be ready and so you fly to his main first. Ignore the lords you see on your way. You can get them when you fly back. Scout his tech tree, muta means cannon and templars into archons. No spire but a den means no cannons at nexus but cannons in front of your natural and 1 or 2 at your choke, research storm right away and dont morph your fucking templars into archons. So then you deal dmg with sairs by taking as many lords out as possible BUT its very important to keep your sair alive, because you must bring it back to your natural expand so your cannons can oversee the cliff against cliff lurkers.

From here, where you have the expand and all. Make 1 dt to harass his expansions which he tries to lay down. It might not always work but thats ok. Just add 7 gates, upgrade your units with TWO forges. And if you catch him STILL not making a spire, make a shuttle and make some sexy storm drops. If he has a spire but you think he doesnt defend expands with many drones with scourge then you can drop as well. Another usefull drop might be 4 dark templars in his main and kill his hive. This slows down zergs upgrade and stalls adrenaline glands and ultras. Practise makes this strategy perfect, just like every other I guess, but timing here is very important and you must get the feeling before you will do it right.

I hope some of you find this usefull

cheers


This is why I come to tl.net
balancingAct
Profile Joined February 2005
United States6 Posts
February 24 2005 02:09 GMT
#37
heyas rob~

fancy seeing you here. Haven't seen you around ts lately...so when I noticed your name, I thought I'd say hi. so... (^_^)/") hehehe
~Embrace your Zerginess~
iD.VaLi
Profile Joined July 2004
Netherlands135 Posts
February 24 2005 02:31 GMT
#38
ye scout openings are pretty cool, i like em
Holland is the only place to be
rpf289
Profile Joined October 2004
United States3524 Posts
February 24 2005 03:08 GMT
#39
On February 24 2005 11:09 balancingAct wrote:
heyas rob~

fancy seeing you here. Haven't seen you around ts lately...so when I noticed your name, I thought I'd say hi. so... (^_^)/") hehehe
SARAH! =) How ya been? <3

Anyways, did anyone like the game I posted? Granted my opponent was uber-newbie... =P Just kidding Davey.
twoez4mins
Profile Joined February 2005
United States49 Posts
March 17 2005 02:48 GMT
#40
lets say i do pvz and go 1gate and open with stargate....what if they zergling rush me before??? or 6 pool me before anything, i guess i cant do anything then correct?
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