• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 18:16
CET 00:16
KST 08:16
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Rongyi Cup S3 - RO16 Preview3herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational11SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview5RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jan 12-18): herO, MaxPax, Solar win0BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion8Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets4$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)22Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns7
StarCraft 2
General
herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational PhD study /w SC2 - help with a survey! Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued StarCraft 2 not at the Esports World Cup 2026 [Short Story] The Last GSL
Tourneys
$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) OSC Season 13 World Championship $70 Prize Pool Ladder Legends Academy Weekly Open! SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
[A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 509 Doomsday Report Mutation # 508 Violent Night Mutation # 507 Well Trained Mutation # 506 Warp Zone
Brood War
General
[ASL21] Potential Map Candidates Fantasy's Q&A video BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion Gypsy to Korea
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Azhi's Colosseum - Season 2 Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10
Strategy
Current Meta Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Game Theory for Starcraft
Other Games
General Games
Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Awesome Games Done Quick 2026!
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread NASA and the Private Sector
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How Esports Advertising Shap…
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1802 users

Fun fact - The ace match bonjwa - Page 3

Forum Index > BW General
66 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 Next All
ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
July 14 2009 20:45 GMT
#41
On July 14 2009 17:15 MrHoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2009 17:09 konadora wrote:
Yeah I get what you mean

His face looks so stiff.. almost like a mannequin o.o

or a girl from 강남
LOLOLOLOLOL


ROFL TRUTH

but he's actually really cute~
and who doesn't know that leta is the king of ace matches?
he's been hite's go to guy for over a year already.
Sullifam
Flicky
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
England2669 Posts
July 14 2009 20:54 GMT
#42
It is nice picking out stats like this. If you also look at the standard proleague (not winners league) records, Leta is top of that as well with a 41 - 14 record. You can check out this for the rest.

Very impressive in higher pressure situations though. Looking forward to him hopefully getting that little bit extra (be in different builds or whatnot) that will truely put him into the S-class. I <3 Leta =D
Liquipedia"I was seriously looking for a black guy" - MrHoon
faseman
Profile Joined April 2009
Australia215 Posts
July 14 2009 20:54 GMT
#43
So sad to see 5 ACE players at rank 41 I didn't count the combined losses in fear of it making me more depressed!
[]Lowkey[]
Profile Joined April 2009
30 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-14 21:22:29
July 14 2009 21:22 GMT
#44
On July 15 2009 05:54 Flicky wrote:
It is nice picking out stats like this. If you also look at the standard proleague (not winners league) records, Leta is top of that as well with a 41 - 14 record. You can check out this for the rest.

Very impressive in higher pressure situations though. Looking forward to him hopefully getting that little bit extra (be in different builds or whatnot) that will truely put him into the S-class. I <3 Leta =D

he just nids 1 more power up to become S-class so to speak XD...

Ace Bonjwa? nice...
BoooYahhhh!
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
July 14 2009 21:25 GMT
#45
On July 15 2009 05:54 Flicky wrote:
It is nice picking out stats like this. If you also look at the standard proleague (not winners league) records, Leta is top of that as well with a 41 - 14 record. You can check out this for the rest.

Very impressive in higher pressure situations though. Looking forward to him hopefully getting that little bit extra (be in different builds or whatnot) that will truely put him into the S-class. I <3 Leta =D


since you mentioned that...

Wow, Leta sucked in WL.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
AzureEye
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1360 Posts
July 14 2009 21:27 GMT
#46
On July 15 2009 02:47 TwoStep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2009 19:18 konadora wrote:
On July 14 2009 19:11 ArvickHero wrote:
So Hite is even more of a 1-man team than Oz

No..

Leta playing more ace matches means more Hite players win at least 1 game for Leta to play in ace match, while Jaedong's record shows that he's the only one who wins and rest loses (or they win 3-0/3-1 more)

No...
Oz's record without JD is 80-82
Hite's record without Leta is 92-98.
This shows that Oz generally plays less games than Hite meaning whether they win or lose, it rarely goes to the Ace match.
In terms of depth, I'd say they're pretty close.


Hite has Yarnc and type B though. Oz's Lomo and Hiya? I don't think they're doing as well
Terrans who whine: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=107788
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
July 14 2009 21:56 GMT
#47
the 3 loses were against jaedong, jangbi and calm.
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
July 15 2009 01:07 GMT
#48
On July 15 2009 06:27 AzureEye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2009 02:47 TwoStep wrote:
On July 14 2009 19:18 konadora wrote:
On July 14 2009 19:11 ArvickHero wrote:
So Hite is even more of a 1-man team than Oz

No..

Leta playing more ace matches means more Hite players win at least 1 game for Leta to play in ace match, while Jaedong's record shows that he's the only one who wins and rest loses (or they win 3-0/3-1 more)

No...
Oz's record without JD is 80-82
Hite's record without Leta is 92-98.
This shows that Oz generally plays less games than Hite meaning whether they win or lose, it rarely goes to the Ace match.
In terms of depth, I'd say they're pretty close.


Hite has Yarnc and type B though. Oz's Lomo and Hiya? I don't think they're doing as well


Oz is not deep at all. lomo is really inconsistent and hiya is like 1-9 in his last 10 games

and more than yarnc and type b, it's horang2
Sullifam
GoAudio
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Sweden400 Posts
July 15 2009 01:40 GMT
#49
imba
EffOrt[fOu] & Hyvaa[S.G] <3 :D
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
July 15 2009 01:42 GMT
#50
idk i think jaedong > leta. its just jaedong is number one so everyone is gunning for him. leta has been floating around under the radar for longer, so when he came busting out he was able to take so many ace matches cause well no one is used to his play style.
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
July 15 2009 03:03 GMT
#51
I guess that means Hite is an even worse team than Oz if they go to Ace that much.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
broz0rs
Profile Joined July 2008
United States2294 Posts
July 15 2009 16:40 GMT
#52
[image loading]


credit: Eunhun @ Fomos
illu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2531 Posts
July 15 2009 16:58 GMT
#53
Leta has the highest skills when it comes to looking at the audiences to get maphacks.
:]
himurakenshin
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Canada1845 Posts
July 15 2009 20:39 GMT
#54
the true ace match bonjwa was Nal_rA
buscettn
Profile Joined April 2009
Austria129 Posts
July 16 2009 14:11 GMT
#55
the problem with these statistics is that if we count all the absolut wins as our major indicator players in teams performing good (winning without needing an ace match) are worse off.
the winning-percentage would be the best indicator, but then people winning and playing only one match would be our bonjwas... those proleague statistics are pretty tricky

Leta nevertheless deserves the first place, playing alot of games and having an awesome win ratio
PrAsty
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada21 Posts
July 16 2009 16:43 GMT
#56
im surprised that fantasy has only won two of his five ace matches. i wonder who they were against

imperfect
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada1652 Posts
July 16 2009 17:02 GMT
#57
oh god anytime T_T_T_T_T_T
blind bisu free and anytime fanboy.
simfarm
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Ireland75 Posts
July 17 2009 04:16 GMT
#58
I really wish we didn't misuse "bonjwa."
Orbifold
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1922 Posts
July 17 2009 04:51 GMT
#59
Win rate may not be the best way to evaluate ACE match performance. For instance, a weak team would generally go to an ace match when facing another weak team... so a good player on a weak team may have an inflated rank because they face weaker competition. I would like to see ACE match ELO rankings, or some similar measure.
Allow me to reintroduce myself...
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
July 17 2009 04:55 GMT
#60
Leta [image loading]
brood war for life, brood war forever
Prev 1 2 3 4 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 45m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nathanias 154
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 108
ggaemo 30
Sexy 11
Dota 2
febbydoto27
League of Legends
tarik_tv9479
JimRising 481
Counter-Strike
minikerr28
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox1031
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor218
Other Games
gofns9518
summit1g7206
Grubby2301
FrodaN1636
Mlord645
Liquid`Hasu206
QueenE117
KnowMe50
ViBE41
PiLiPiLi2
Organizations
Other Games
EGCTV1839
gamesdonequick1810
BasetradeTV61
StarCraft 2
angryscii 44
StarCraft: Brood War
Kim Chul Min (afreeca) 10
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 21 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH186
• musti20045 52
• Hupsaiya 51
• RyuSc2 45
• Sammyuel 25
• Kozan
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Migwel
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21577
• WagamamaTV746
League of Legends
• Doublelift4707
• Scarra595
Other Games
• imaqtpie3151
• Shiphtur355
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
45m
Replay Cast
9h 45m
RongYI Cup
11h 45m
Maru vs Cyan
Solar vs Krystianer
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
12h 45m
BSL 21
15h 45m
Replay Cast
1d
Wardi Open
1d 14h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 17h
OSC
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
WardiTV Invitational
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
Korean StarCraft League
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S1: W5
OSC Championship Season 13
NA Kuram Kup

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Rongyi Cup S3
Underdog Cup #3
Tektek Cup #1
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025

Upcoming

Acropolis #4 - TS4
Escore Tournament S1: W6
Escore Tournament S1: W7
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.