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5/18/09 Fomos
14 disqualifications in the history of professional StarCraft!
11/30/04 - MBC Movies Team League - Samsung, a player turned out to be an amateur
07/02/06 - Sky Proleague - Nal_Ra/Aqua team, Nal_Ra pause without typing "ppp"
11/04/06 - 10th Survivor Tournament - Odin, mistake with computer
11/15/06 - 3rd Dual Tournament - Doksa, pause without typing "ppp"
05/27/07 - SPL - Hogil/Go.Go, Hogil pause without typing "ppp"
10/18/07 - GomTV MSL - Forgg, use of forbidden bug with SCV
02/04/08 - 14th Survivor Tournament - 815, pause without typing "ppp"
04/16/09 - Avalon MSL Survivor Tournament - Ruby, "ww" instead of "gg"
04/16/09 - Avalon MSL Survivor Tournament - Tempest, "ggyo" instead of "gg"
04/28/09 - SPL Round 4 - Leta, "pp" instead of "ppp"
05/10/09 - Bacchus OSL round of 36 - Luxury, "gfg" instead of "gg"
05/13/09 - Bacchus OSL round of 36 - GoRush, "ㅎㅎ" instead of "gg" (ㅎㅎshows up if you have a Korean keyboard and you type key corresponding to "g" without changing the setting to English)
05/13/09 - Bacchus OSL round of 36 - GoRush, typed "a" accidentally
05/16/09 - Avalon MSL Survivor Tour - Sair, "ㅈㅈ" instead of "gg" (ㅈㅈ is more or less a Korean phonetic equivalent of "gg"
My question: you see all these cases where a player was gonna surrender anyway (thereby losing anyway) and is disqualified for not typing "gg" correctly? It's a loss either way, but is it counted different for the player's record (loss vs disqualification?)
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I think the forbidden scv bug was actually done by go.go vs TT?
Or were there 2 separate occasions?
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The SCV bug with go.go vs. TT was allowed because there was no rule in place prior to the match. After the match, KeSPA put the rule.
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Interesting that in 2004 people were disqualified for juste reasons, such as not being a pro whereas in 2009 you can't even type GG in korean, lol.
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United States12607 Posts
Wow, there have been a lot more recent disqualifications than I was aware of...I'm surprised more people haven't complained that KeSPA should be higher in the PR.
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11/30/04 - MBC Movies Team League - Samsung, a player turned out to be an amateur
hahaha :D
that's sad... ;;
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lol disqualified for "gfg" is ridiculous! Its such an obvious typo
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On May 19 2009 01:34 sky_slasher wrote:
11/30/04 - MBC Movies Team League - Samsung, a player turned out to be an amateur
lolwut?
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United States12607 Posts
On May 19 2009 01:40 blapsd wrote:
lol disqualified for "gfg" is ridiculous! Its such an obvious typo
Just like GoRush's "a" and Leta's "ppp".
Disqualification for typos is very common.
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What's the different between a loss and a disqualification? If a loss by disqualification doesn't count then isn't it better since your loss won't be recorded?
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Whoa, what happened with the amateur incident?
Anyone care to fill me in?
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some fucking retarded rules.
and retarded people making them too.
just IHMO
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As expected the last 2 months have seen as many disqualifications as the previous 5 years before that. And it's all for that stupid typing out only gg/GG rule that is screwing things up.
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On May 19 2009 01:46 Meretricious wrote:
Whoa, what happened with the amateur incident?
Anyone care to fill me in?
oDin was an amateur at that time, but Samsung put him on the roster anyway.
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Odin, mistake with computer.
Wut?!
He went back to desktop?
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On May 19 2009 01:39 Phelix wrote:
The SCV bug with go.go vs. TT was allowed because there was no rule in place prior to the match. After the match, KeSPA put the rule.
I think he was given a warning or something.
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On May 19 2009 01:46 funkie wrote:
some fucking retarded rules.
and retarded people making them too.
just IHMO
Agreed, why the hell do they ban people for obvious typos -_-
[e] I guess I agree with the amateur incident but everything else is just unintentional it's making KeSPA look ridiculous.
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notice the sudden boom of DQ in 2009? its a conspiracy i tell u!
anyhow, i wonder how much more the gamers can take before they go berserk...
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So many dq for no actual reason. It's sad and it's not good for e-sports. One of these days the korean netizens will beat the crap out of a retarded ref.
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On May 19 2009 01:54 Shizuru~ wrote:
notice the sudden boom of DQ in 2009? its a conspiracy i tell u!
anyhow, i wonder how much more the gamers can take before they go berserk...
yeah kespa is finally playing well, his winrate in 2009 has skyrocketed
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I can't believe they DQ'd ForGG but not go.go. ForGG's at least cool.
There are more from 2009 than the rest of the years put together.
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On May 19 2009 01:36 Pioneer wrote:
I think the forbidden scv bug was actually done by go.go vs TT?
Or were there 2 separate occasions?
Gonna sound silly here but what exactly was the SCV bug from fOrGG? Any details?
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On May 19 2009 02:02 fnaticNoname wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2009 01:36 Pioneer wrote:
I think the forbidden scv bug was actually done by go.go vs TT?
Or were there 2 separate occasions? Gonna sound silly here but what exactly was the SCV bug from fOrGG? Any details?
It's a cargo glitch. You basically spam C with an scv that has minerals and you can glitch through stuff. I know the game versus TT was on one of the iterations of Blitz, you can look it up in TLPD from there.
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What about that game midas accidentally alt-qqed?
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Bisu was DQ-ed against July , or rather the game was given to Tushin but in the case both were actually the same thing
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United States17042 Posts
This doesn't feel like a complete list, but I have no data to back that up.
Anyone else notice that they have the same number of DQ's on the list in 2009 as they do before 2009? 7 from 2004-2008, and 7 in 2009. Odd to say the least, and a disturbing trend.
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On May 19 2009 02:08 GHOSTCLAW wrote:
This doesn't feel like a complete list, but I have no data to back that up.
Anyone else notice that they have the same number of DQ's on the list in 2009 as they do before 2009? 7 from 2004-2008, and 7 in 2009. Odd to say the least, and a disturbing trend.
I spent some time on my jog last night thinking about it.
I think the increased awareness and pressure is adding to the occurance. It is the only way that I could understand the trend.
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LMAO
05/10/09 - Bacchus OSL round of 36 - Luxury, "gfg" instead of "gg"
LOOOL gorush for dq'd twice. new record lol.
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On May 19 2009 02:04 thunk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2009 02:02 fnaticNoname wrote:On May 19 2009 01:36 Pioneer wrote:
I think the forbidden scv bug was actually done by go.go vs TT?
Or were there 2 separate occasions? Gonna sound silly here but what exactly was the SCV bug from fOrGG? Any details? It's a cargo glitch. You basically spam C with an scv that has minerals and you can glitch through stuff. I know the game versus TT was on one of the iterations of Blitz, you can look it up in TLPD from there.
Thank you.
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u gotta skate8152 Posts
On May 19 2009 02:17 Raithed wrote:
LMAO
05/10/09 - Bacchus OSL round of 36 - Luxury, "gfg" instead of "gg"
LOOOL gorush for dq'd twice. new record lol.
'good fucking game'? lol :D
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United States4126 Posts
On May 19 2009 01:54 Shizuru~ wrote:
notice the sudden boom of DQ in 2009? its a conspiracy i tell u!
That's exactly what I noticed lol
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On May 19 2009 02:29 KizZBG wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2009 02:17 Raithed wrote:
LMAO
05/10/09 - Bacchus OSL round of 36 - Luxury, "gfg" instead of "gg"
LOOOL gorush for dq'd twice. new record lol. 'good fucking game'? lol :D
exactly why i started laughing so hard. this is like DQ of the OSL or something, if you get DQ'd twice youre like wow, third time is like golden mouse lolol.
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I think that SCV glitch was first done in Blitz -> warning but game continued.
Next time I think it was Loki (I or II) where it resulted instant loss. That we don't know if terran player was aware of this thing. Perhaps he was testing KESPA if they allowed to do that again.
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I think Kespa would have been better off making a rule where typing anything other than a request to pause is a regular loss (aka typing another other than pp, ppp, is equivalent to typing gg), rather than a disqualification. And a clause should be added to use their best judgment in cases where things such as the keyboard locking up or when the monitor stops working.
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05/10/09 - Bacchus OSL round of 36 - Luxury, "gfg" instead of "gg"
GOOD FUCKING GAME
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Didn't cHalRengE get disqualified when he typed "fuck" during that 1 team game? Or did they just fine him afterward?
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On May 19 2009 04:58 rushz0rz wrote:
Didn't cHalRengE get disqualified when he typed "fuck" during that 1 team game? Or did they just fine him afterward?
I think they just gave him a fine and penalized the Sparkyz a few points. From what I remember he said it just before his team typed out anyways.
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On May 19 2009 01:58 Scaramanga wrote:yeah kespa is finally playing well, his winrate in 2009 has skyrocketed
ya, i'm glad to see kespa make the Ro16 after defeating gorush 2-0. i'm hoping kespa can make it to the finals.
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Perhaps you should also add when they were disqualified. Like GoRush got a disqual right at the start of a BO3 where he was one down... that's just nasty. To be honest, although they are really dumb, some discs have less impact. When a player is typing out he's already lost. Of course there are other consequences to being disqualified, but not being able to play out a game you could have won is a really evil sanction.
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LOL
a guy got DQ for type pp instead of ppp?! r u serious? LOL
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l10f
United States3241 Posts
Forgg's game was vs Nal_rA I believe. It was when Nal_rA 12 nexus'd and Forgg went 3 barracks MnM.
Obviously, Forgg would have won, if he didnt use the bug to get past Nal_rA's probes.
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konadora
Singapore66358 Posts
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KESPA Destroy everyone in 2009
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I think KeSPA should actually try to solve the problem rather than just disqualifying people for it. Like, suppose inside each booth, there were two giant buttons against the wall, one for GG and one to pause. It doesn't even have to do anything other than flash a light or something like that. If they did that, then they could even just ban all chatting altogether rather than penalizing typos -- as ridiculous and stupid as that sounds, I think it's still more sane than what KeSPA is doing right now.
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Melbourne5338 Posts
question, when Midas ALT+QQed by accident (i think it was him), was that a forfeit loss?
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On May 19 2009 07:34 pachi wrote:
question, when Midas ALT+QQed by accident (i think it was him), was that a forfeit loss?
WTF I remember that! Yeap, it was Midas. I loved the look on his face but at the same time it was very sad.
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On May 19 2009 01:34 sky_slasher wrote:
05/10/09 - Bacchus OSL round of 36 - Luxury, "gfg" instead of "gg"
Oh my Luxury D:
tsk tsk
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07/02/06 - Sky Proleague - Nal_Ra/Aqua team, Nal_Ra pause without typing "ppp"
Is this the one everyone's seen the video of a million times because up until this year, it was the "epic lol dq"?
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United States11393 Posts
How come zizi yO incident isn't on here?
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On May 19 2009 08:31 Harem wrote:
How come zizi yO incident isn't on here?
Again because that happened before the rule was in place. It wasn't a DQ.
The luxury one makes me laugh though. A DQ loss for typing GFG instead of GG? That's a REALLY easy mistake... lol.
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On May 19 2009 07:28 jjl wrote:
I think KeSPA should actually try to solve the problem rather than just disqualifying people for it. Like, suppose inside each booth, there were two giant buttons against the wall, one for GG and one to pause. It doesn't even have to do anything other than flash a light or something like that. If they did that, then they could even just ban all chatting altogether rather than penalizing typos -- as ridiculous and stupid as that sounds, I think it's still more sane than what KeSPA is doing right now.
I second this. But have it be like one of those military launch buttons, you gotta enter the code, flip the switch cover, then insert your magnetic key and turn it, then you can flip the switch.
(joke)
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Uhm, there was also a probe bug used by Bisu to scout Hwasins base but it was allowed since the referee said that it was Hwasins scv that pushed Bisu's probe inside his base......
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What was the bug forGG used?
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On May 19 2009 01:44 JWD wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2009 01:40 blapsd wrote:
lol disqualified for "gfg" is ridiculous! Its such an obvious typo Just like GoRush's "a" and Leta's "ppp". Disqualification for typos is very common.
Common nowadays.
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Man...this list sucks ass.
GaeSPA
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On May 19 2009 09:30 SilverSkyLark wrote:
Uhm, there was also a probe bug used by Bisu to scout Hwasins base but it was allowed since the referee said that it was Hwasins scv that pushed Bisu's probe inside his base......
Yea, that was luck. A different game, it wouldn't have happened. It wasn't any sort of glitch - and if it was, it hasn't been banned yet, so I don't think Bisu would have been DQ'd yet.
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expected backho's name >.>
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On May 19 2009 10:25 ZidaneTribal wrote:
expected backho's name >.>
for what??
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On May 19 2009 10:43 Mastermind wrote:for what??
he's probably refering to backho using ziziyo but i think backho was told not to and he didnt.
i wanna watch the video of the first one. amateur playing for khan 
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On May 19 2009 10:54 Mykill wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2009 10:43 Mastermind wrote:On May 19 2009 10:25 ZidaneTribal wrote:
expected backho's name >.> for what?? he's probably refering to backho using ziziyo but i think backho was told not to and he didnt. i wanna watch the video of the first one. amateur playing for khan
the rule was made because of backho, it was never used against him.
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On May 19 2009 10:04 Zalfor wrote:
KeSPA for BONJWA!!!!!!!!!!
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On May 19 2009 14:21 QuickStriker wrote:
KeSPA for BONJWA!!!!!!!!!!
He hasn't proved himself yet. Never won a single final wth
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Why does kespa get all this power? Why do the coaches/players say anything? Or is it a cultural difference? I was watching the most recent batch of GomTV games, and Tasteless and SDM said that theres a very strict hiearchy... is that why no one complains?
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oh geez... kespa merciless when it comes to typoes >.>
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I'm pretty sure I remember midas being disqualified in some tvt
edit : he accidentally left the game , iirc so its not really a disqualification..
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On May 20 2009 04:07 Jumperer wrote:
why is KESPA not #1 in powerranking? his consistency is unmatched.
More like ruthlessness but yeah, DogSPA for #1 !
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