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GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
February 20 2009 07:18 GMT
#21
On February 20 2009 12:38 fanatacist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2009 12:30 Crahptacular wrote:
On February 20 2009 12:05 intrigue wrote:
otherwise excellent article, and only pointing it out because it's used prominently: + Show Spoiler +
'pheonix' => phoenix


just replace it with "fenix" and problem is solved :D

as an extra bonus, it actually makes sense, with the whole zlot -> goon deal... but that's unimportant

OH SNAP

MAYBE THAT IS WHY THE HERO'S NAME IS FENIX?!

COULD IT BE?!

NOWAI~


WOAH, holy crap that just blew my mind!
miseiler
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States1389 Posts
February 20 2009 21:16 GMT
#22
WOW. What a read!

I really wish I'd been around to see most of this history T.T
"Jinro soo manly wearing only a T-Shirt while the Koreans freeze in their jackets" -- Double_O
"He's from Sweden, man. We have to fight polar bears on our way to school." -- Yusername
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
February 20 2009 23:04 GMT
#23
On February 20 2009 16:18 GGQ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2009 12:38 fanatacist wrote:
On February 20 2009 12:30 Crahptacular wrote:
On February 20 2009 12:05 intrigue wrote:
otherwise excellent article, and only pointing it out because it's used prominently: + Show Spoiler +
'pheonix' => phoenix


just replace it with "fenix" and problem is solved :D

as an extra bonus, it actually makes sense, with the whole zlot -> goon deal... but that's unimportant

OH SNAP

MAYBE THAT IS WHY THE HERO'S NAME IS FENIX?!

COULD IT BE?!

NOWAI~


WOAH, holy crap that just blew my mind!


WHAT IS GOING ON HERE
WORLD CRASHING DOWN AROUND ME
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
Piy
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Scotland3152 Posts
February 20 2009 23:22 GMT
#24
coincidence really. Just because it happened to some other players doesn't really mean anything. He could be around for a while or he could sink into nothing again...we'll see.
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cRaZypYRo
Profile Joined August 2007
Germany191 Posts
February 21 2009 13:02 GMT
#25
savior goes 3:0 against bisu in the final (if the brackets do allow this
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
February 21 2009 13:04 GMT
#26
On February 21 2009 22:02 cRaZypYRo wrote:
savior goes 3:0 against bisu in the final (if the brackets do allow this


I'm afraid the brackets don't allow this at all seeing as Bisu was dropped out of the MSL in the group stages...
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Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
February 21 2009 19:28 GMT
#27
Hehehe, Fenix died to a spawn broodling.
Cyrox
Profile Joined October 2007
Sweden147 Posts
February 22 2009 09:39 GMT
#28
Good writing, I like it!
deathgodtoss
Profile Joined July 2008
Korea (North)189 Posts
February 22 2009 16:47 GMT
#29
On February 21 2009 22:02 cRaZypYRo wrote:
savior goes 3:0 against bisu in the final (if the brackets do allow this


bisu was eliminated by savior and i think zero in group stages.. didnt u watch the game? savior vs bisu epicness?
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monstar123
Profile Joined December 2008
United States516 Posts
February 22 2009 16:53 GMT
#30
Good prediction. Savior vs Jangbi 3:1 or (3:0)
pSikh0
Profile Joined January 2009
163 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-22 17:44:26
February 22 2009 17:41 GMT
#31
Lol Roman Candle is just like a part of a biography of Napoleon, kind of. Lol
Hyperionnn
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Turkey4968 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-22 18:24:43
February 22 2009 18:16 GMT
#32
I think same logic applies to Bisu

His first game on GOMTV1 MSL until the finals of GOMTV3 MSL, he went 59-31 (65.56%), quite nice isn't it? Then he wakes up next day, he feels his bonjwa magic but suddenly he got crushed, his confidence got crushed, his mental state was crushed (save for Bisu vs Savior epic showdown)
and he was pathetic. He got owned by Stork 0-3, Xellos saved him in Bacchus osl, and he showed good games vs flash but this is his only good games during that dark period. He even needed to cheese against baby to qualify to the clubday msl.

Then something happened to him, he woke up, prapared to qualify the osl, his opponent was iris, and the games were close, he was still nowhere at his prime but actually he remembered how to win a serie.

Still he barely qualified through ro8 of incruit osl, lost a game vs FBH in clubday msl, but actually he started to win. Despite his loss vs Stork, his play was inspiring, and he played good starcraft. Then he just stormed through clubday msl and gom, he won 2 titles in one swipe and during this period he showed us that if he wants to win, he will win.

But suddenly, he dropped 4 games in osl and msl, he was out from both leagues but sc gods do not allow this and they got kicked backho's ass in order to bisu can qualify to OSL. And he qualified in a spectacular fashion, going 6-0.

As i'm writing this, even during his 1st prime bisu always plays in proleague poorly. Despite kicking everybodys face in starleagues, his proleague results were always abysmal. But now we have a difference, he is 10-4 in winners league and 15-3 in Round 1 and 2, making a combined record 25-7.

Are you curious about his recent record?
68-22 (75.56%) since his games vs iris in incruit osl. And more important, he's 13-2 in BoX series.
Watch Bisu's glorious OSL run, this OSL belongs to him.

To OP:I almost forgot , that was a nice read man.
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
February 22 2009 18:31 GMT
#33
On February 23 2009 03:16 Hyperionnn wrote:
I think same logic applies to Bisu

His first game on GOMTV1 MSL until the finals of GOMTV3 MSL, he went 59-31 (65.56%), quite nice isn't it? Then he wakes up next day, he feels his bonjwa magic but suddenly he got crushed, his confidence got crushed, his mental state was crushed (save for Bisu vs Savior epic showdown)
and he was pathetic. He got owned by Stork 0-3, Xellos saved him in Bacchus osl, and he showed good games vs flash but this is his only good games during that dark period. He even needed to cheese against baby to qualify to the clubday msl.

Then something happened to him, he woke up, prapared to qualify the osl, his opponent was iris, and the games were close, he was still nowhere at his prime but actually he remembered how to win a serie.

Still he barely qualified through ro8 of incruit osl, lost a game vs FBH in clubday msl, but actually he started to win. Despite his loss vs Stork, his play was inspiring, and he played good starcraft. Then he just stormed through clubday msl and gom, he won 2 titles in one swipe and during this period he showed us that if he wants to win, he will win.

But suddenly, he dropped 4 games in osl and msl, he was out from both leagues but sc gods do not allow this and they got kicked backho's ass in order to bisu can qualify to OSL. And he qualified in a spectacular fashion, going 6-0.

As i'm writing this, even during his 1st prime bisu always plays in proleague poorly. Despite kicking everybodys face in starleagues, his proleague results were always abysmal. But now we have a difference, he is 10-4 in winners league and 15-3 in Round 1 and 2, making a combined record 25-7.

Are you curious about his recent record?
68-22 (75.56%) since his games vs iris in incruit osl. And more important, he's 13-2 in BoX series.
Watch Bisu's glorious OSL run, this OSL belongs to him.

To OP:I almost forgot , that was a nice read man.


It didn't seem like his play vs. Iris was inspired even though he won there. I personally thought it was where after he prepped for Storks games (even though he lost) is where he got the magic back. Since the Stork games he is 61-17 (78.21%).

It's all kinda arbitrary though so whatever the case he's been pretty consistently above 75% for 4 months now... let's see how long he can hold it up.


Nice analysis btw OP. NaDa and July are beasts to be able to do what they have (and probably will) do.
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Hyperionnn
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Turkey4968 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-22 18:33:27
February 22 2009 18:32 GMT
#34
I know that record was higher and his play in game 3 was slightly off , he simply remembered how to win vs Iris.
Kuja900
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3564 Posts
February 24 2009 01:48 GMT
#35
Ok this is a great article this deserves more attention
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JohnBall
Profile Joined December 2008
Brazil1272 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-24 02:49:34
February 24 2009 02:48 GMT
#36
I think the op has forgoten one piece of information pertaining to his Savior analysis on this, otherwise flawless, write up.
Savior' resurgeance is obviously going to be a case of a "Fenix" resurgeance, instead of a "whats-his-face Candle" or the notorious "Nada Syndrome". And I affirm that we can be sure of that based on one simple overlooked data piece: IT'S 2009 BABE!!!!!
Savior will win MSL 3-0 against anyone!.

Edit: 2009pool to victory!
perfecting the art of five pool forever
joohyunee
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
Korea (South)1087 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-26 07:34:26
February 26 2009 07:34 GMT
#37
@ ^^^^^

..... omg the 2009 thing is REALLY getting out of hand... WAIT UNTIL MA JAE YOON PROVES HIMSELF BY GETTING INTO THE SEMIFINALS TONIGHT (if he does) CUZ OTHERWISE, HE AIN'T BACK YET, NOT EVEN TO HIMSELF, as I translated a couple of days ago when he won RO16.

Chillax, let Savior prove himself. Oh, yes, and I am an AVID savior fan. I was terribly excited when I saw Savior vs Bisu. But it's STILL an uphill climb for Ma Jae Yoon at this point. so STOP getting all excited for nothing - once he gets to semifinals, go nuts, cuz I might start taking interest again. but for now, let's keep the fanboyism under check, please?
Arrian
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States889 Posts
February 26 2009 07:37 GMT
#38
On February 26 2009 16:34 joohyunee wrote:
@ ^^^^^

..... omg the 2009 thing is REALLY getting out of hand... WAIT UNTIL MA JAE YOON PROVES HIMSELF BY GETTING INTO THE SEMIFINALS TONIGHT (if he does) CUZ OTHERWISE, HE AIN'T BACK YET, NOT EVEN TO HIMSELF, as I translated a couple of days ago when he won RO16.

Chillax, let Savior prove himself. Oh, yes, and I am an AVID savior fan. I was terribly excited when I saw Savior vs Bisu. But it's STILL an uphill climb for Ma Jae Yoon at this point. so STOP getting all excited for nothing - once he gets to semifinals, go nuts, cuz I might start taking interest again. but for now, let's keep the fanboyism under check, please?


See that's sorta why I posted it nearly a week ago...

I'm not saying it makes any sense, my prediction; in fact, that's basically the point. I don't think I mentioned 2009, only the actual facts as of the articles' composition.

It really wasn't fanboyism...it was an analysis. The prediction was more just for 'funsies,' if you will. It's what I want to happen, certainly not what I think will happen. My actual analysis said that it's really not a safe bet, in the end. But yes, we'll see in just a little bit, won't we? It's time to be excited.
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