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InfeSteD
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States4658 Posts
September 20 2008 20:38 GMT
#1001
omg I cant seriously never freaking watch a vod all the way :S
w/e
ReiKo
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Croatia1023 Posts
September 20 2008 20:49 GMT
#1002
Idra said " have you seen his mechanics?
just imagine his tvz " - He didn't say " I didnt lost because of his mechanics".
So, Klive5ive , you seem to hallicunate things, the real question is, what are you on?

And one notice : After Fenix did his DT drop, his macro was ok, and it was far from "all in " macro that we see from for exampkle 4 or 5 pool rush that means do or die, but with this strategy failing, Fenix coud have good chance to continue game. So it means it is not all in, it has nothing to do with all in. All in builds are do or die, if he had failed with DT drop he continue playing.

He mocked man's mechanic,and he died from same mechanic, and for me, thats ridicilous and unecessary comment.
Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-20 21:01:22
September 20 2008 21:01 GMT
#1003
On September 21 2008 05:49 ReiKo wrote:
Idra said " have you seen his mechanics?
just imagine his tvz " - He didn't say " I didnt lost because of his mechanics".
So, Klive5ive , you seem to hallicunate things, the real question is, what are you on?

And one notice : After Fenix did his DT drop, his macro was ok, and it was far from "all in " macro that we see from for exampkle 4 or 5 pool rush that means do or die, but with this strategy failing, Fenix coud have good chance to continue game. So it means it is not all in, it has nothing to do with all in. All in builds are do or die, if he had failed with DT drop he continue playing.

He mocked man's mechanic,and he died from same mechanic, and for me, thats ridicilous and unecessary comment.


Your English must be a little weak.
On September 19 2008 22:55 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2008 22:44 ReiKo wrote:
Oh well, we seen his mechanics vs you Idra

allin and mechanics are not synonyms
easy to see how you got confused there though.

That implies that he thinks he didn't lose to the mechanics.
Don't hate the player - Hate the game
ReiKo
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Croatia1023 Posts
September 20 2008 21:23 GMT
#1004
I'm from Croatia as you can see, and I think my English is good, as it is not my mother-language, you shoud appreciate it more, as I'm doing my best . Maybe you shoud show us off your Croatian?

You said : "Idra said". What is false. Idra didn't say that. Idra said what I did quote. That's a fact, and you can't denie it, he coud "implie" many things, but I quoted his exact word, and you are assuming, well the diffrence beteween you and me is that I don't assume, I have black-on-white fact in this case.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
September 20 2008 21:33 GMT
#1005
On September 21 2008 06:23 ReiKo wrote:
I'm from Croatia as you can see, and I think my English is good, as it is not my mother-language, you shoud appreciate it more, as I'm doing my best . Maybe you shoud show us off your Croatian?

You said : "Idra said". What is false. Idra didn't say that. Idra said what I did quote. That's a fact, and you can't denie it, he coud "implie" many things, but I quoted his exact word, and you are assuming, well the diffrence beteween you and me is that I don't assume, I have black-on-white fact in this case.


Dont take it so harshly. Your english isnt that good..
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-20 21:38:24
September 20 2008 21:37 GMT
#1006
I can't stress enough how great these two are hahah
Sun Tzu once said, "Defiler becomes useless at the presences of a vessel."
Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-20 21:45:44
September 20 2008 21:42 GMT
#1007
On September 21 2008 06:23 ReiKo wrote:
I'm from Croatia as you can see, and I think my English is good, as it is not my mother-language, you shoud appreciate it more, as I'm doing my best . Maybe you shoud show us off your Croatian?

You said : "Idra said". What is false. Idra didn't say that. Idra said what I did quote. That's a fact, and you can't denie it, he coud "implie" many things, but I quoted his exact word, and you are assuming, well the diffrence beteween you and me is that I don't assume, I have black-on-white fact in this case.


If I was assuming then I would be stating without proof.
His statement implies what I said, so I made no assumption.

Let's talk about your "black and white" facts shall we; such as whether the build was all-in or not.
Idra (a pro-gamer) and Artosis (while commentating) have both said the build was all-in, but it's "black and white" that Fenix won with his mechanics.
Don't hate the player - Hate the game
ReiKo
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Croatia1023 Posts
September 20 2008 22:25 GMT
#1008
@ Klive5ive

It's really nice to se people who are wrong and has no facts to back theirself up, so they all turn it up in one big philoshopy. I know what Idra said, I know what I seen in replay, and I did back it up with arguments and qoutes, what you did? You were writing without any of those.

And second paragraph, you did very good thing : Try to said alot, didn't say anything and didn't make sense at all. Maybe you shoud first understand, It has nothing to do even if build was all-in, it has to do with a respect of a opponent who has beaten you. Maybe then you coud try normally disscus and point something out with facts and arguments and not by "one-man-get-it" philosophy and "implication".

@arb

Better then your Croatian
littlechava
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States7221 Posts
September 20 2008 22:35 GMT
#1009
You tell 'em ReiKo!
Entusman #12
JudgeMathis
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Cuba1286 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-20 22:54:13
September 20 2008 22:53 GMT
#1010
If the only way you can post an argument is by saying, "Hey man. You're second language is horrible. LOL SO UR STATEMENT IS INCORRECT LOL LRN ENGLISH." Then... You're a jackass. :-D

He's points are valid even if his english is not the best. Even if Fenix did beat Idra with an ALL IN, if Idra was the nasty terran that everyone thinks of him (just looking at the top 10 foreigners list on the forum), Idra should have won. Since a win is a win, and a lost is a lost there is no reason for Idra to belittle his opponents. Usually, when I read stuff like this I lurk, but I wanted to put my 2 cents in.
Benching 225 is light weight. Soy Cubano y Boricua!
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7475 Posts
September 20 2008 22:53 GMT
#1011
Why does idra need an excuse to lose to a non korean and it can't just be 'he found the only possible whole in my defense which allowed him to pry the game open using Shuttle + archives tech.... That is all that happend.

Nony please make a mini replay pack abusing iccup players this way, it would be great to watch after smoking a j some night...... if you don't mind.
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7475 Posts
September 20 2008 23:01 GMT
#1012
Also nony.

i'm sure that you could go over your build order against july and find better timmings for your late +1 or better your sair timming or timming reavers different or something... I'm sure you understand where I'm going with this ...

my reason for bringing it up is judging a players macro/micro/mechanics from highly stressfull and important game isn't always fair, If I knew that artosis/daniel lee and every member(more or less) of the international community were going to watch my every move.... I'm sure I could fuck up a 4pool vs a 14cc .... once again I'm sure you get my point.

freshtowers
Profile Joined August 2008
Albania64 Posts
September 20 2008 23:26 GMT
#1013
Fenix won on andromeda. DTs, cheese or anything else doesn't even matter here. ANDROMEDA is a joke.
alphafuzard
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1610 Posts
September 20 2008 23:40 GMT
#1014
On September 21 2008 07:53 JudgeMathis wrote:
If the only way you can post an argument is by saying, "Hey man. You're second language is horrible. LOL SO UR STATEMENT IS INCORRECT LOL LRN ENGLISH." Then... You're a jackass. :-D

He's points are valid even if his english is not the best. Even if Fenix did beat Idra with an ALL IN, if Idra was the nasty terran that everyone thinks of him (just looking at the top 10 foreigners list on the forum), Idra should have won. Since a win is a win, and a lost is a lost there is no reason for Idra to belittle his opponents. Usually, when I read stuff like this I lurk, but I wanted to put my 2 cents in.

i think we need a cookie monster
more weight
InfeSteD
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States4658 Posts
September 21 2008 00:00 GMT
#1015
I cant believe u guys are fuckin judging Reiko's English if he is from Croatia :S
how ignorant :S
w/e
JudgeMathis
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Cuba1286 Posts
September 21 2008 04:12 GMT
#1016
On September 21 2008 08:40 alphafuzard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2008 07:53 JudgeMathis wrote:
If the only way you can post an argument is by saying, "Hey man. You're second language is horrible. LOL SO UR STATEMENT IS INCORRECT LOL LRN ENGLISH." Then... You're a jackass. :-D

He's points are valid even if his english is not the best. Even if Fenix did beat Idra with an ALL IN, if Idra was the nasty terran that everyone thinks of him (just looking at the top 10 foreigners list on the forum), Idra should have won. Since a win is a win, and a lost is a lost there is no reason for Idra to belittle his opponents. Usually, when I read stuff like this I lurk, but I wanted to put my 2 cents in.

i think i'm a douche


His, a loss is a loss. If you're going to correct someone's grammar mistakes by all means use correct punctuation, and capitalization. Jack ass. :D This is why I lurk these kind of threads. But, honestly maybe you should contribute more about the topic rather than telling me how to write.
Benching 225 is light weight. Soy Cubano y Boricua!
VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
September 21 2008 05:40 GMT
#1017
Guys please stop derailing this thread The last 2 or 3 pages are almost 100% trash. Go take that love PMs, IRC, blog or something...
Great people talk about ideas. Average people talk about things. Small people talk about other people.
KrAzYfoOL
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Australia3037 Posts
September 21 2008 06:21 GMT
#1018
On September 21 2008 06:23 ReiKo wrote:
Maybe you shoud show us off your Croatian?

Maybe you shouldn't reverse the argument in such a stupid manner when there are more English speaking countries?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_where_English_is_an_official_language
It's better to burn out than to fade away
ReiKo
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Croatia1023 Posts
September 21 2008 07:15 GMT
#1019
@KrAzYfoOL

It wasn't an argument, it was pure statemant, because you have to have lots balls to spit on someone's English even if he is nowhere near USA or UK(pretty good distance) and a person you are spiting on is doing pretty decent job so you can understand it. I think that's lack of respect and cultural values. But it's getting a littlebit offtopic, and it's really a shame that someone is getting my English in question when they can't fight my arguments about Idra vs Fenix match, and that they spit on it even it's fairly OK and I'm not from any of English speaking countries.
KrAzYfoOL
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Australia3037 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-21 08:02:00
September 21 2008 07:26 GMT
#1020
i was merely exploiting that 'statement' that's been used against me a number of times and your English is very good
It's better to burn out than to fade away
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