Hey guys, I didnt see this in the news or any thread here, so I decided to post this up. I got it in an e-mail from starfeeder. (Their newsletter/Developmental Blog) Here is the interview between IdrA and Gamereplays.org.
18 year old American StarCraft Player goes Pro
Posted: 31 Dec 2007 06:33 PM CST
IdrA an 18 year old from New Jersey has been chosen by eSTRO to play professional StarCraft for their team…
This news is just on the heals of StarCraft commentator Tasteless heading over to Korea. The interview from GameReplays follows…
GameReplays: Hello IdrA, thanks for taking a few minutes out of your busy schedule to talk with us at GameReplays.org. By way of introduction, why don’t you tell us a little about yourself and you history in Starcraft pro gaming?
IdrA: Hi, I’m Greg Fields, I’m 18 and live in New Jersey, USA. I’ve been playing competitively for about 2.5 years now, just played casually for fun before that. I don’t have too much in the way of accomplishments, went to WCG USA this year and won various online tournaments, the most notable being the eSTRO SuperStars tournament.
GameReplays: If any of our readers are unfamiliar, IdrA was recently chosen by eSTRO to go into Korea and play Starcraft. So IdrA, going into a foreign country how do you feel about the language barrier? Do you know if any team members speak English well enough to communicate? If not, do you think that it will affect the quality of your training?
IdrA: Judging from experience with Koreans in general online most of them speak a little English, and I know the manager speaks fluent English. Also I’m taking a crash course in conversational Korean at the moment, so I’m not too worried about it.
GameReplays: Have you read about the recent undertaking of creating a so-called ‘Minor League’ for second tier pro-gamers in Korea to show off their skill? If so, do you think it will increase the chances of ‘foreigners’ qualifying for televised games.
IdrA: Yes, the standards are, obviously, lower than for the ProLeague and you don’t have to go through the rigorous qualification like for the individual leagues, so it should be a bit easier to get a spot on the minor league team. But it still won’t be easy by any means, just because the average skill of pro gamers today is so incredibly high.
GameReplays: During the tryouts, none of competitors managed to defeat eSTRO members. How do you think, the team came to the conclusion that you have the most potential?
IdrA: Well, I won the initial tournament for the North Americans, so I had a bit of a head start from that. And while we all lost I think me vs. Soyeon[WHITE] on Tau Cross, along with IefNaij’s games vs. Sea.Really, were the closest games of the matches, so that probably helped as well.
GameReplays: In an interview for Micro Media you said that whether you stay longer in Korea depends on the nature of the deal with eSTRO. Has anything been settled since then, and can you share some of this with us?
IdrA: Yes, after talking with the manager its clear that they don’t just want me for a publicity stunt, it’s an actual offer to become part of the team. As such I intend to stay as long as it seems worthwhile, and as long as they are willing to keep me.
GameReplays: Everybody knows that Koreans are training very hard every day. You considered yourself playing for fun before this opportunity. Are you sure that you can manage the Korean pro gamer’s routine? If yes, what is motivating you to put so much effort into becoming a pro-gamer?
IdrA: While the game is very fun, and that is what drove me to play a lot initially, it is the competitive aspect of the game I really love. That kind of motivation helps a lot in terms of training. Also I have had days where I practice non-stop, before a tournament or helping a friend practice. While it isn’t the same as playing 12 hours a day, every day it won’t be entirely new, and I know I can deal with to some extent, at least.
GameReplays: The tournament you competed in was North Americans only. What are your thoughts on this? Would things be different had the tournament been open to say, Europe and Asia?
IdrA: I don’t think there was anything wrong with it, some people felt it was unfair but there is a similar tournament being planned for Europeans (I think). If the tournament had been open to Europe and Asia the competition obviously would have been much more difficult, mainly because of Chinese players. However most of the top European players, like Mondragon, Draco, etc. have gone inactive or have no interest in a pro gaming career.
GameReplays: What do you think about playing the Terran Race? Nearly half of the Korean professional gamers play Terran and many have been dubbed as boring or standard: such as Midas and Goodfriend. How do you plan to stand out from this crowd of Terran players?
IdrA: I think a lot of Terran players are labelled boring because its possible to play well with a strictly mechanical approach to the race, without focusing much on outsmarting your opponent, although to be great you do have to out-think, as well as outplay your opponent. However I think those two are pretty bad examples of boring players, Goodfriend has one of the most unique pro TvP’s, with his aggressive 2 fac and dropship builds, and while Midas is not as flashy as Boxer his play is incredible in its mechanical precision as well as his insane macro, when he is performing well. I have no real desire to stand out from the crowd, in terms of style, because while many people find that mechanical style of play boring I’ve never had a problem with just focusing on having perfect macro, micro, timing, even if it means I wont end up on pimpest plays.
GameReplays: To wrap up this interview lets take one final question, which will probably be of the most interest to the readers at GameReplays.org. I am sure you have been following the development of StarCraft 2 at least a little. What are your thoughts on it, and while it’s early to say, do you like what you are seeing? Do you think you will make the switch once it comes out?
IdrA: I like the general concept, some of the new units look cool, the graphics of the in game videos look very nice and it seems that, in terms of the game itself, they are staying pretty true to what made StarCraft so great. However, I worry about the updates they’re making to the user interface. I think adding MBS and auto mining is likely to ruin the potential StarCraft II has as a competitive game. If done properly, StarCraft II could kick start a professional gaming scene similar to Korea’s in Europe, or even America. But adding MBS will dumb down the skill cap and turn StarCraft into a micro intensive game and, as war3 demonstrates, a game like that can support competitive gaming, but on nowhere near the level Starcraft has maintained in Korea for nearly 10 years.
GameReplays: Thanks for spending the time with us IdrA. We would love to talk to you again as the release of Starcraft 2 approaches. Perhaps we can see you posting a bit on our forums once Starcraft 2 comes out.
very nice interview and; "adding MBS will dumb down the skill cap and turn StarCraft into a micro intensive game and, as war3 demonstrates, a game like that can support competitive gaming, but on nowhere near the level Starcraft has maintained in Korea for nearly 10 years."
On January 02 2008 05:02 Myxomatosis wrote: Nice interview.
Is Idra going to have to play TvT now? That's pretty interesting seeing as he's always used z or p against t.
i believe he always wanted to play TvTs instead of using his off-races against T, but he never got to practice the mu because many foreigners would just avoid such mirror mu. that means he would have to stay up late at night to play against korean T users, which he thinks is too much for him to stay up and get no sleep. he said, somewhere i forget, that he will be playing TvT.
the last i heard was that you could race pick but you had to state which race you pick against each ans stick to it for the whole season. i could be wrong tho as it was a long time ago and i'm not sure that always works (say he takes ZvP, TvZ, PvT and you play the same then there is no happy solution)
also i think most team prefer their players to stick with one race.
On January 02 2008 05:15 drift0ut wrote: the last i heard was that you could race pick but you had to state which race you pick against each ans stick to it for the whole season. i could be wrong tho as it was a long time ago and i'm not sure that always works (say he takes ZvP, TvZ, PvT and you play the same then there is no happy solution)
also i think most team prefer their players to stick with one race.
not for whole season... or itt can be true in proleagues, but in individual leagues you have to tell which race you will play 1-2 week(s) before the certain match (if not your default).
To me it seems like an obvious question was missed... what about college? I'm sure that if eSTRO didn't come along, IdrA would be going. Any concern about putting that off? Although if I had the chance, I have to admit I'd take it. :>
IdrA nice interview. I liked the long straight up answers, when you do interviews in Korea keep 'em up like this one and don't generalize everything like all pro-gamers do.
Good luck to you and I fucking hope one day you play a televised match with Tasteless as the commentator =] America FTW!
so idra you saw lilsusies pics of the estro lifestyle and you are still going to go?
i think it's great if you do go, but also very important that you know beforehand what you're signing up for so that you don't get disappointed once you arrive there.
The big question I think is WHEN? =o I think it's been announced and reannounced 4-5 times "Idra to Korea" but none say when or even approximately when.
possibly by the end of january/early february. its not finalized yet but theyre ready for me to come over as soon as possible and i dont have much left to take care of in terms of school.
Ahhhhhhh Idraaaaaa! Good luck, but I hope this doesn't turn out as a bad experience because I remember Grrr saying that it wasn't really worth the $ or something along those lines.....
On January 02 2008 05:20 MYM.Testie wrote: IdrA to E-stro! Soon to appear on a gg.net page near you.
Testie you are not going?
I'm pretty sure he said he declined the offer because he didn't want to practice many hours every day. Also he doesn't play a lot of SC anymore besides playing in WCG qualifiers.
On January 02 2008 05:20 MYM.Testie wrote: IdrA to E-stro! Soon to appear on a gg.net page near you.
Testie you are not going?
I'm pretty sure he said he declined the offer because he didn't want to practice many hours every day. Also he doesn't play a lot of SC anymore besides playing in WCG qualifiers.
Testie is being a lazy bum dotaing every day now... what a wasteeee : ((((((((((((((((
On January 02 2008 10:49 Xeris wrote: The big question I think is WHEN? =o I think it's been announced and reannounced 4-5 times "Idra to Korea" but none say when or even approximately when.
On January 02 2008 10:49 Xeris wrote: The big question I think is WHEN? =o I think it's been announced and reannounced 4-5 times "Idra to Korea" but none say when or even approximately when.
You should do interviews
he said he was gonna go during winter break if his college would still let him attend having skipped the last half of his senior year. i'm assuming he hasn't though since there's been no news about it, and he'll probably go this summer (someone correct me if i'm wrong)
I'm actually in Seoul right now and so far in my own experience, people here are even stoked that white kids even play SC. Even more than that, they are stoked when you don't suck. There is a crapload to do and a good chunk of people know some basic english so whatev, you'll have fun for at least a month, which is an experience within itself. GL for sure dude, represent the west coast playa.
On January 02 2008 13:02 ocoini wrote: I like IdrA, speaks his mind.
Agreed.
On January 03 2008 00:22 Quesadilla wrote: I'm actually in Seoul right now and so far in my own experience, people here are even stoked that white kids even play SC. Even more than that, they are stoked when you don't suck. There is a crapload to do and a good chunk of people know some basic english so whatev, you'll have fun for at least a month, which is an experience within itself. GL for sure dude, represent the west coast playa.
On January 02 2008 13:55 Superiorwolf wrote: thats admins i thinks, me thinks mods are blue
gl IdrA
Erm, no...
Both Admins and Mods (people who can close/edit threads and ban people) are in Red.
News writers, replay uploaders, and other staff who do not have mod powers are in Blue.
Edit - FYI since I'm bored...
There are 4 main levels or ranks of staff. Keep in mind that as you progress, you can do everything that the level before you could do.
First, you have "Replay" status - You can upload replay, read the staff forum, post in the closed forum, etc. This status is usually given out to honorary staff members (such as Liquid` members) so they can read the staff forum, or to actual replay uploaders.
Second, there is "News" status - This is actually where most of the people you see posting in blue will fall. They can actually write the news reports, update the TLPD, Liquibet, Calender, etc. etc. These people are some of the real work-horses who take care of a lot of things we never really think about, and IMO don't get enough credit.
Third, there is the "Moderator" status - We can edit threads, move them, ban/warn people... generally we're the enforcers.
Finally, you have "Admin" status - There are currently only 5 Admins (Meat, Saro, Nazgul, PoP and Mani)... in addition to having total authorization for the website, the biggest difference between Admins and Mods is that Admins can promote other users to staff.
On January 03 2008 01:36 EvilTeletubby wrote: Finally, you have "Admin" status - There are currently only 5 Admins (Meat, Saro, Nazgul, PoP and Mani)... in addition to having total authorization for the website, the biggest difference between Admins and Mods is that Admins can promote other users to staff.
I thought haji was an admin? I guess he just posts alot..
He is definately the best candidate. Young, dedicated, talented (no joke, he actually has that bw talent that you mostly see in top koreans) and capable! (not everyone can do this in their life) I hope the best for him! Nice to again, have a foreigner in korea representing us.
On January 03 2008 04:53 {88}iNcontroL wrote: <3 greg
He is definately the best candidate. Young, dedicated, talented (no joke, he actually has that bw talent that you mostly see in top koreans) and capable! (not everyone can do this in their life) I hope the best for him! Nice to again, have a foreigner in korea representing us.
Wow, that is some awesome news. I'm curious though, how will IdrA communicate with the team? Do they have english translators or something, or will he have to learn Korean?
On January 03 2008 07:08 ItsYoungLee wrote: Wow, that is some awesome news. I'm curious though, how will IdrA communicate with the team? Do they have english translators or something, or will he have to learn Korean?
On January 02 2008 05:00 [-]Ocelot[-] wrote: GameReplays: If any of our readers are unfamiliar, IdrA was recently chosen by eSTRO to go into Korea and play Starcraft. So IdrA, going into a foreign country how do you feel about the language barrier? Do you know if any team members speak English well enough to communicate? If not, do you think that it will affect the quality of your training?
IdrA: Judging from experience with Koreans in general online most of them speak a little English, and I know the manager speaks fluent English. Also I’m taking a crash course in conversational Korean at the moment, so I’m not too worried about it.
On January 03 2008 07:08 ItsYoungLee wrote: Wow, that is some awesome news. I'm curious though, how will IdrA communicate with the team? Do they have english translators or something, or will he have to learn Korean?
nice job of totally ignoring this good interview. i guess you didnt even read it. good way to start here.
GameReplays: If any of our readers are unfamiliar, IdrA was recently chosen by eSTRO to go into Korea and play Starcraft. So IdrA, going into a foreign country how do you feel about the language barrier? Do you know if any team members speak English well enough to communicate? If not, do you think that it will affect the quality of your training?
IdrA: Judging from experience with Koreans in general online most of them speak a little English, and I know the manager speaks fluent English. Also I’m taking a crash course in conversational Korean at the moment, so I’m not too worried about it.
On January 02 2008 22:47 KizZBG wrote: That's very encouraging Naruto.
You know. If you lie to a girl telling you love her because you want to see her happy and afterwards telling her that its not like you said before. It will hurt alot more.
I won't say "IdrA is going to own all those progamer geeks!" because he won't. I already told him in another thread: Best of luck.
But the outcome is clear, sorry. I'm just a honest person.
On January 03 2008 01:36 EvilTeletubby wrote: Finally, you have "Admin" status - There are currently only 5 Admins (Meat, Saro, Nazgul, PoP and Mani)... in addition to having total authorization for the website, the biggest difference between Admins and Mods is that Admins can promote other users to staff.
I thought haji was an admin? I guess he just posts alot..
Notice it was Last Romantic who said "what the fuck is a Rekrul anyways" and Last Romantic who said " I love how eventually EVERY TeamLiquid neophyte posts that lurker/rekrul reference." Not really making a point, just pointing it out.
Update us Idra :: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=18 Started packing yet? blog away - talk about the practise, the schedule, the food, the girls or boys, fun games you play, smuggle out replays, progamers you meet, who is kind, who is bad. what/who you like, what/who you dont like, how your copeing etc..etc.. blog away
On January 02 2008 22:40 G.s)NarutO wrote: He will never get into any major league and he needs mass luck to get a televised game. Then he will get crushed like all foreigners before T_T
Or, if he gets on a televised game, he could do a terran Legionairre and get 80 kills with his tank
On January 30 2008 03:01 likeaboss wrote: he isnt near as dominant as draco was so i highly doubt he will fair any better...
I thinks it's not about being dominant in foreign scene, it's more about the will and dedication to pass the harsh training in korea. If idra has the will (not to switch to poker), then he might do well. I wish idra persistency!
Do your best! Pavaryk! 加油! がんばれ！ ...and everybody can add this in their own language
On January 30 2008 03:01 likeaboss wrote: he isnt near as dominant as draco was so i highly doubt he will fair any better...
Draco is pretty good as far as foreigners are concerned, but that's totally false.
also to note, which i made long posts about when talks of bringing foreigners to korea first started in 2007, is that nobody really knows how to scout foreigners for pro teams. of course the initial idea is "the current best foreigner player has best chance to succeed" but there are many many things that could make that wrong and many many other things to consider. idra has shown potential in his own way. the argument "idra has accomplished less than draco did prior to going to korea, so there is a great doubt that he'll do better than draco did in korea" is sooooo flimsy that it doesn't deserve a mention at all
On January 30 2008 06:05 weEzy wrote: no talent, no potential, no future
how you gonna talk shit when i bet you cant even spell starcraft. stupid people running their mouths trying to put down ppl and make themselves feel better.
On January 30 2008 03:01 likeaboss wrote: he isnt near as dominant as draco was so i highly doubt he will fair any better...
I think Idra is more or less at the same level Draco was at when leaving for Korea but I have an uncanny feeling that he will do better
Edit: yeah, when is he going? Somebody has to know
On January 02 2008 10:58 IdrA wrote:
possibly by the end of january/early february. its not finalized yet but theyre ready for me to come over as soon as possible and i dont have much left to take care of in terms of school.
I think it's less about skill or about performance, but more about willpower to push yourself to match and go beyond the Koreans. It's definitely true not everybody was made to be a progamer. But those who do show the potential by no means is the best. They have to push theirselves to the point where they are showing all that their potential is worth. Hopefully when eSTRO decided to recruit IdrA, they saw that potential. I pray for the best willpower to be bestowed in IdrA and hopes that he does well in Korea.
So in essence what I said means, it's not about who's the best foreigner, it's about who can handle the pressure the best and push themselves further. Without a doubt Pj and Lx were top foreign gamers, but after a year and a half, they were just starting to lack the willpower as did Draco.
draco thought too highly of himself i guess, and he though it would only take a couple of months for him to start winning some games. But since he didn't he gave up. I hope IdrA knows himself better, i wish you good luck but its going to be hard, and i guess you know it.
ehhh.... you guys are so easy to jump the bandwagon on the next foriegner to go to korea. I mean dont get me wrong im excited for idra and the prospect of foriegners actually being able to be taken seriously but I do not believe Idra is our savior.... He is in top five foriegners probally however, draco when he went was more active, had way higher apm(which i dont care what you say, will make a difference in korea), and was the top player outside of korea. I just think people are naieve to think draco who played tons with koreans, almost stricktly koreans, who was insanely familiar with their play and styles, was not better prepared for korea. He was not very active at all in xlo besides a few tourneys here and there, however, was playing jpod and vs many koreans non stop. Now I am not sure but i am under the impression that idra trains mostly with usa a members. please feel free to correct me if i am wrong
I guess the point is that even if draco was better than idra their skill was anyway too low to be taken into consideration, no matter how good they are both, they would have to improve at least x4 times to succeed, thus I think that what counts is not the skill but the willpower to improve, who knows if Idra will do better than draco, we can't actually know
idra has played plenty of koreans and plenty on hamachi. also idra used to play tons with testie who impressed koreans so much that he got an invite from CJ.
So in essence what I said means, it's not about who's the best foreigner, it's about who can handle the pressure the best and push themselves further.
Very true. I think that's the most important thing. A low-skilled player would very very quickly surpass a higher skilled player once they're both in the training environment of a pro team, so long as the low-skilled player keeps his chin up and his focus strong for 10 hours every day and the high skilled player gets frustrated and loses motivation.
On January 30 2008 07:37 UbRi wrote: I guess the point is that even if draco was better than idra their skill was anyway too low to be taken into consideration, no matter how good they are both, they would have to improve at least x4 times to succeed, thus I think that what counts is not the skill but the willpower to improve, who knows if Idra will do better than draco, we can't actually know
give idra 1 year, he will improve by 3 folds i just know it
On January 30 2008 07:03 jkillashark wrote: I think it's less about skill or about performance, but more about willpower to push yourself to match and go beyond the Koreans. It's definitely true not everybody was made to be a progamer. But those who do show the potential by no means is the best. They have to push theirselves to the point where they are showing all that their potential is worth. Hopefully when eSTRO decided to recruit IdrA, they saw that potential. I pray for the best willpower to be bestowed in IdrA and hopes that he does well in Korea.
So in essence what I said means, it's not about who's the best foreigner, it's about who can handle the pressure the best and push themselves further. Without a doubt Pj and Lx were top foreign gamers, but after a year and a half, they were just starting to lack the willpower as did Draco.
I fully agree. I mean they could take someone low in the top 200 foreigners, and make him top 10 in a couple of months with the training they have in korea, if he's talented. So talent and devotion are way more valuable than current skill level. The question is: when he arrives in korea, will he not get bored by losing 90% of the time day in day out for an entire year. Only the most motivated persons get through that stage without getting sick of BW. And yeah ofcourse he also lacks alot of social contact in korea, but judging by uh.. a few things.. he already lacked it in the US
[QUOTE]On January 30 2008 08:50 RaGe wrote: [QUOTE]On January 30 2008 07:03 jkillashark wrote: also lacks alot of social contact in korea, but judging by uh.. a few things.. he already lacked it in the US[/QUOTE]
Ya, you know that feeling when you start winning a lot against some pretty good competition, you start feeling pretty good about your skill. Like "hey, I'm starting to get this game figured out". Then you meet a truly top gamer who just rapes you so easily, as if he weren't trying. I don't know about you but things like that are realllllyy demotivating. Imagine that feeling several hours a day, for several months at a time. This is what you have to go through to make it in progaming. If you can endure that and still maintain your drive, focus, desire, and most importantly; the belief that you can be the best. Then, and only then, would a player have the chance to succeed in korea. That takes some incredible will power to say the least. Especially when you know from the beggining how stacked the odds are against you.
I must say Idra seems the most commited and reasonable of any gamer I've seen recently. He has admitted himself that he may have no chance of making it, but even then hes willing to go and try. This is a situation that hasn't really happened before. All the other gamers already had high hopes going into it. As someone mentioned with draco, this lead to them becomming demotivated really quickly.
Do we really know the "true" reason why Draco left Korea ? I thought that someone with his passion wouldn't be so easily de-motivated. I believe that there were other reasons for him leaving. I wish SunCow had made it though. I'd love to see a foreign zerg in korea. Has there even been one ?
[QUOTE]On January 30 2008 09:49 toopham wrote: [QUOTE]On January 30 2008 08:50 RaGe wrote: [QUOTE]On January 30 2008 07:03 jkillashark wrote: also lacks alot of social contact in korea, but judging by uh.. a few things.. he already lacked it in the US[/QUOTE]
I don't think losing a ton is that bad for moral. When I started playing on pgt I went 10-150 and it didn't bother me in the slightest. Also I believe Idra is leaving feb 15th.
On January 30 2008 07:13 likeaboss wrote: ehhh.... you guys are so easy to jump the bandwagon on the next foriegner to go to korea. I mean dont get me wrong im excited for idra and the prospect of foriegners actually being able to be taken seriously but I do not believe Idra is our savior.... He is in top five foriegners probally however, draco when he went was more active, had way higher apm(which i dont care what you say, will make a difference in korea), and was the top player outside of korea. I just think people are naieve to think draco who played tons with koreans, almost stricktly koreans, who was insanely familiar with their play and styles, was not better prepared for korea. He was not very active at all in xlo besides a few tourneys here and there, however, was playing jpod and vs many koreans non stop. Now I am not sure but i am under the impression that idra trains mostly with usa a members. please feel free to correct me if i am wrong
agreed. draco/pj, and idk who else > idra, yes, they quit the korean scene but man, theyre great.
On January 31 2008 05:44 Pwntrucci[sR] wrote: I don't think losing a ton is that bad for moral. When I started playing on pgt I went 10-150 and it didn't bother me in the slightest. Also I believe Idra is leaving feb 15th.
how can you lose like that? didnt you do this strat?
On January 31 2008 05:44 Pwntrucci[sR] wrote: I don't think losing a ton is that bad for moral. When I started playing on pgt I went 10-150 and it didn't bother me in the slightest. Also I believe Idra is leaving feb 15th.
how can you lose like that? didnt you do this strat?
From what I know, Draco was disliked by basically everyone important in Korea (this includes his team, not just poker players) because he acted like a spoiled, cocky piece of shit. I'd imagine it's part of the reason he left.
In any case, Micro Media will be paying for Tasteless' taxi cab expense to go visit IdrA and massage his shoulders before matches. His chances of success are extremely high.
On January 31 2008 07:55 Skew wrote: From what I know, Draco was disliked by basically everyone important in Korea (this includes his team, not just poker players) because he acted like a spoiled, cocky piece of shit. I'd imagine it's part of the reason he left.
In any case, Micro Media will be paying for Tasteless' taxi cab expense to go visit IdrA and massage his shoulders before matches. His chances of success are extremely high.
idra has far and away the best attitude towards korea that i've seen amongst foreign players
most top foreigners that have gotten this opportunity already think they're the shit, idra knows he has nothing on professionals and he's approaching this situation as a strong learning experience. I think if there's one player outside of korea right now that has a chance to completely retool his game and bring it somewhere near pro standards, its Idra.
On January 31 2008 07:55 Skew wrote: From what I know, Draco was disliked by basically everyone important in Korea (this includes his team, not just poker players) because he acted like a spoiled, cocky piece of shit. I'd imagine it's part of the reason he left.
I knew that the explainations of Draco learing Korea all sounded like bs. Skew keeping it real !
On January 31 2008 07:55 Skew wrote: From what I know, Draco was disliked by basically everyone important in Korea (this includes his team, not just poker players) because he acted like a spoiled, cocky piece of shit. I'd imagine it's part of the reason he left.
In any case, Micro Media will be paying for Tasteless' taxi cab expense to go visit IdrA and massage his shoulders before matches. His chances of success are extremely high.
Somehow it's hard to imagine a polish player being spoiled in korea while not knowing korean (correct me if I'm wrong, I just assumed). By the way, what team did he join?
Draco was with OGN Sparkyz. If he's anything like me he would have been so intimidated by the combined awesomeness of Chalrenge and Zeus that he wouldn't have been able to perform.
if tihs is true about draco, i really do wish idra the best, i think a foriegner succeeding over in korea would be amazing and would help out the foriegn scene emmensely
On January 31 2008 17:01 Kennigit wrote: Draco was with OGN Sparkyz. If he's anything like me he would have been so intimidated by the combined awesomeness of Chalrenge and Zeus that he wouldn't have been able to perform.
On January 31 2008 07:55 Skew wrote: In any case, Micro Media will be paying for Tasteless' taxi cab expense to go visit IdrA and massage his shoulders before matches. His chances of success are extremely high.
On January 31 2008 18:00 UbRi wrote: ahahahh is he zeus? omg that animation is awesome, I wonder if the woman noticed it lol
Hells no, that's Chalrenge my boy! I fucking love that guy. And rofl@ Draco being cocky and hated by his team... I always thought he was more humble than that.
On January 31 2008 07:55 Skew wrote: From what I know, Draco was disliked by basically everyone important in Korea (this includes his team, not just poker players) because he acted like a spoiled, cocky piece of shit. I'd imagine it's part of the reason he left.
In any case, Micro Media will be paying for Tasteless' taxi cab expense to go visit IdrA and massage his shoulders before matches. His chances of success are extremely high.
Someones nose is getting really brown
Yea, having a friend and supporting him is a pretty odd thing. Maybe one day you'll get to experience it.
On January 31 2008 18:00 UbRi wrote: ahahahh is he zeus? omg that animation is awesome, I wonder if the woman noticed it lol
Hells no, that's Chalrenge my boy! I fucking love that guy. And rofl@ Draco being cocky and hated by his team... I always thought he was more humble than that.
It's not true, skew got it mixed up. Suncow was an ignorant kid, draco on the other hand tried his best to fit in but noone in his team speaked a word in english and he tried to learn korean but I don't think it went that well. He said in an interview that even his coach though that foreigner would never be as good as korean (korean was born better) so I don't think he had it so easy.
I didn't get it mixed up. I was talking about Draco, not SunCow.
edit: But SunCow was the same, and I have personal experience with him. I used to rape him daily back in 2006 (or 2007, whenever that was) when he played protoss. The day he went to Korea he told me on MSN that I wasn't good enough to talk to him anymore, LOL. The week he came back he was messaging me asking for games... guess what I told him?
On February 01 2008 01:10 Skew wrote: I didn't get it mixed up. I was talking about Draco, not SunCow.
edit: But SunCow was the same, and I have personal experience with him. I used to rape him daily back in 2006 (or 2007, whenever that was) when he played protoss. The day he went to Korea he told me on MSN that I wasn't good enough to talk to him anymore, LOL. The week he came back he was messaging me asking for games... guess what I told him?
the mere fact that after skew said those words about draco we DIDNT experience a giant polish explosion of rage and anger means they are true words.
I met Draco. He was a very nice guy. But I definately could see the potential for him to be arrogant. But saying that, I'd see him being arrogant around white dudes (pretty understandable) I'd think he'd be humble around the koreans. If what skew says is true thats too bad
On January 31 2008 17:01 Kennigit wrote: Draco was with OGN Sparkyz. If he's anything like me he would have been so intimidated by the combined awesomeness of Chalrenge and Zeus that he wouldn't have been able to perform.
On January 31 2008 07:55 Skew wrote: From what I know, Draco was disliked by basically everyone important in Korea (this includes his team, not just poker players) because he acted like a spoiled, cocky piece of shit. I'd imagine it's part of the reason he left.
In any case, Micro Media will be paying for Tasteless' taxi cab expense to go visit IdrA and massage his shoulders before matches. His chances of success are extremely high.
Someones nose is getting really brown
Yea, having a friend and supporting him is a pretty odd thing. Maybe one day you'll get to experience it.
Shit on this support when you shittalk other ppl, how should this help
EPT
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