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DragoonPK
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
3259 Posts
January 29 2008 17:55 GMT
#121
I hope Idra manages against the harsh life and difficulty of programing. Good luck :D
Quanticfograw
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States2053 Posts
January 29 2008 18:01 GMT
#122
he isnt near as dominant as draco was so i highly doubt he will fair any better...
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Agavond
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
448 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-29 18:25:47
January 29 2008 18:25 GMT
#123
Idra if you ever get on televised tournies make sure to show some emotion instead of having a plain face.

Edit: oops, GooD LucK in Korea
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
January 29 2008 18:32 GMT
#124
so when is he actually going
Skew
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States1019 Posts
January 29 2008 18:42 GMT
#125
On January 30 2008 03:01 likeaboss wrote:
he isnt near as dominant as draco was so i highly doubt he will fair any better...


Draco is pretty good as far as foreigners are concerned, but that's totally false.
ram
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
Lithuania602 Posts
January 29 2008 18:54 GMT
#126
On January 30 2008 03:01 likeaboss wrote:
he isnt near as dominant as draco was so i highly doubt he will fair any better...


I thinks it's not about being dominant in foreign scene, it's more about the will and dedication to pass the harsh training in korea. If idra has the will (not to switch to poker), then he might do well.
I wish idra persistency!

Do your best!
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NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8748 Posts
January 29 2008 18:54 GMT
#127
On January 30 2008 03:42 Skew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2008 03:01 likeaboss wrote:
he isnt near as dominant as draco was so i highly doubt he will fair any better...


Draco is pretty good as far as foreigners are concerned, but that's totally false.

also to note, which i made long posts about when talks of bringing foreigners to korea first started in 2007, is that nobody really knows how to scout foreigners for pro teams. of course the initial idea is "the current best foreigner player has best chance to succeed" but there are many many things that could make that wrong and many many other things to consider. idra has shown potential in his own way. the argument "idra has accomplished less than draco did prior to going to korea, so there is a great doubt that he'll do better than draco did in korea" is sooooo flimsy that it doesn't deserve a mention at all
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
CaucasianAsian
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Korea (South)11577 Posts
January 29 2008 19:39 GMT
#128
On January 30 2008 03:32 zulu_nation8 wrote:
so when is he actually going


I want to know this too.
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Wizard
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Poland5055 Posts
January 29 2008 19:41 GMT
#129
Wasn't he going in this month (January)?
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JensOfSweden
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Cameroon1767 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-29 20:06:42
January 29 2008 20:05 GMT
#130
On January 30 2008 03:01 likeaboss wrote:
he isnt near as dominant as draco was so i highly doubt he will fair any better...


I think Idra is more or less at the same level Draco was at when leaving for Korea but I have an uncanny feeling that he will do better

Edit: yeah, when is he going? Somebody has to know
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weEzy
Profile Joined January 2008
Niger9 Posts
January 29 2008 21:05 GMT
#131
no talent, no potential, no future
:)
lastprobeALIVE
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States973 Posts
January 29 2008 21:11 GMT
#132
On January 30 2008 06:05 weEzy wrote:
no talent, no potential, no future


how you gonna talk shit when i bet you cant even spell starcraft. stupid people running their mouths trying to put down ppl and make themselves feel better.
when in doubt DT out
Quesadilla
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1814 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-29 21:41:07
January 29 2008 21:22 GMT
#133
On January 30 2008 06:05 weEzy wrote:
no talent, no potential, no future


You're a faggot, glad you got nuked
Make a lot of friends. Wear good clothes. Drink good beer. Love a nice girl.
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-29 21:42:12
January 29 2008 21:32 GMT
#134
On January 30 2008 05:05 JensOfSweden wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2008 03:01 likeaboss wrote:
he isnt near as dominant as draco was so i highly doubt he will fair any better...


I think Idra is more or less at the same level Draco was at when leaving for Korea but I have an uncanny feeling that he will do better

Edit: yeah, when is he going? Somebody has to know


On January 02 2008 10:58 IdrA wrote:

possibly by the end of january/early february. its not finalized yet but theyre ready for me to come over as soon as possible and i dont have much left to take care of in terms of school.


although written january 2nd.


According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
SnoopySnacks
Profile Joined May 2003
Tarsonis903 Posts
January 29 2008 21:33 GMT
#135
On January 30 2008 06:05 weEzy wrote:
no talent, no potential, no future


can say that about any foreigner in sc.
Holy shit I'm good. Why u easy?
CaucasianAsian
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Korea (South)11577 Posts
January 29 2008 21:38 GMT
#136
On January 30 2008 04:41 Wizard wrote:
Wasn't he going in this month (January)?


thats the last I have heard, but there has been no new news about him since...
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Texas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Germany2388 Posts
January 29 2008 21:42 GMT
#137
On January 30 2008 03:01 likeaboss wrote:
he isnt near as dominant as draco was so i highly doubt he will fair any better...


any facts?
draco was just more active/present due to tournaments, leagues and stuff he participated in i assume.
JoMal
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Trinidad/Tobago1177 Posts
January 29 2008 21:47 GMT
#138
One would think that I were going to Korea, lol. I'm so excited to see this happen ! I just want to see his skill level at WCG USA 08'.

...i know, i'm thinking far ahead but whateva ;p
Oh you mad cause i'm stylin on you
SayTT
Profile Joined August 2004
Sweden2158 Posts
January 29 2008 21:53 GMT
#139
On January 30 2008 06:42 HiTexas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2008 03:01 likeaboss wrote:
he isnt near as dominant as draco was so i highly doubt he will fair any better...


any facts?
draco was just more active/present due to tournaments, leagues and stuff he participated in i assume.


Well the people who don't KNOW him personally can only judge him by what he has shown the community. And that is by far less than draco did.
-,-
jkillashark
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States5262 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-29 22:05:12
January 29 2008 22:03 GMT
#140
I think it's less about skill or about performance, but more about willpower to push yourself to match and go beyond the Koreans. It's definitely true not everybody was made to be a progamer. But those who do show the potential by no means is the best. They have to push theirselves to the point where they are showing all that their potential is worth. Hopefully when eSTRO decided to recruit IdrA, they saw that potential. I pray for the best willpower to be bestowed in IdrA and hopes that he does well in Korea.

So in essence what I said means, it's not about who's the best foreigner, it's about who can handle the pressure the best and push themselves further. Without a doubt Pj and Lx were top foreign gamers, but after a year and a half, they were just starting to lack the willpower as did Draco.
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