EPT! [G] Lastest LastShadow's guide to map rigging. - Page 12
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Seraphim
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boghat
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CubEdIn
Romania5359 Posts
Also lol @ the marine HP change, what an idiot. | ||
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jimminy_kriket
Canada5542 Posts
On December 02 2007 04:18 Physician wrote: There is only way to teach a cheater manners: public humiliation. Maybe you aren't familiar with him. But this is what he LIKES. On December 02 2007 04:50 Seraphim wrote: LOL LS has not logged on AIM or Hamachi since ROFL That could also be very not funny, if you know what i mean :S | ||
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boghat
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JensOfSweden
Cameroon1767 Posts
Actually I gave LastShadow the benefit of the doubt BUT I was myself obsing a game of him vs Idra like a couple months back and after the game Idra said LastShadow had rigged the map. At first I thought maybe he was just a sore looser, but when watching the rep I realized Idra was in fact right and was playing with a handicap he didn't know about, which sucks. LastShadow, no one will ever respect you unless you play fair and square and also turn down your ego a bit (Nothing wrong with ego but when you get caught with stuff like this it makes you look VERY BAD. Quick fame is not worth cheating for, I hope you will mature with age (I think you will, honestly). I don't think he has "questionable" posting though, he has made quite some useful posts on TL and I know ppl hate him because of his ego and Idra and the [Media] crew hating on him. But, I'm not defending LastShadow at all. I hope he fucking learns a lesson from this, learns some humility and stops cheating. | ||
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xBTx
Canada542 Posts
Btw was he actually a decent (if not good) player ? Like, how much of his skill was attributed to map rigging | ||
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LumberJack
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boghat
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Frits
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On December 02 2007 06:07 boghat wrote: So I'm the only one that feels bad huh? What's there to feel bad about? He cheated and got busted and as punishment got banned from the community (at least until he cleans up his act and starts a new aka). A little correctional banning never hurt anyone. If anything it'll be good for his character, the guy isn't unstable or anything dramatic as some of you make it out to be. This shit happens all the time. | ||
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
On December 02 2007 06:23 Frits wrote: What's there to feel bad about? He cheated and got busted and as punishment got banned from the community (at least until he cleans up his act and starts a new aka). A little correctional banning never hurt anyone. If anything it'll be good for his character, the guy isn't unstable or anything dramatic as some of you make it out to be. This shit happens all the time. I agree, I seriously doubt that getting banned from a video game forum will push him over the edge. | ||
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Zanno
United States1484 Posts
On December 02 2007 06:25 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: if the kid has nothing better to do but cheat in starcraft and gloat about how awesome he is, you'd be pretty surprisedI agree, I seriously doubt that getting banned from a video game forum will push him over the edge. | ||
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NastyMarine
United States1252 Posts
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Divinek
Canada4045 Posts
On December 02 2007 05:51 xBTx wrote: is Lastshadow just gonna restart his rep on a new AKA? Btw was he actually a decent (if not good) player ? Like, how much of his skill was attributed to map rigging Watch the game vs zulu and that'll answer your question. | ||
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MyLostTemple
United States2921 Posts
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drop
Romania306 Posts
Oh well, life isn't fair, at least one of the cheaters got banned :D does the (U) clan still exist? does it have a website? ah good times, I used to post on SEN when I had mapmaking problems. I think SEN died and then reborn. | ||
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
when I was 14 I wasn't a huge dick who couldn't make a name for myself legitly who had to cheat while being so obsessed with myself that I was totally careless about my cheating. Nope, I was a regular kid. acting like a douchebag no matter how old you are is wrong especially when you have had an entire community bashing you for what seems like almost a year now. If he didnt learn to stop being an ass after the continual flaming he received on TL and Bnet and who knows where else, then this is the only way to maybe help him. maybe this WILL push him over the edge... and by over the edge I mean on to something more productive with his life. because if a 14 year old kid spends all day playing bw and rigging maps, and still managing to be shitty, he should find a new fucking hobby. my dad gave me some pretty good advice, if you work hard you should always be able to attain what you want unless a) you aren't putting any effort. if b) you ARE putting genuine effort and still fail, then try something new because this thing obviously isnt working. maybe hes off trying to find a new game to become gosu in. Watch out WC3... | ||
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Elwood Blues
United States261 Posts
In situations like this, it's fairly common for people to talk the tough living card and say that it's for the better that they learn to take the beating and simply pay the consequences for their actions and move on. Fair enough, I think it's everyone's entitlement to have their opinion...that said, you have to consider the pool of people you're drawing from, especially when you're dealing with the internet. Lots of neuroses and behavioral quirks that fly under the radar in person fly like a red flag on the internet, thanks in part to relative anonymity, and so you really never know exactly what or who you're dealing with. The people who tell em to toughen up are, in my experience, often the same ones who throw their hands up and say the world's going to hell in a handbasket when they hear about another school shooting or suicide. Just my two cents from my two eyes | ||
NonY
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On December 02 2007 16:27 Elwood Blues wrote: The people who tell em to toughen up are, in my experience, often the same ones who throw their hands up and say the world's going to hell in a handbasket when they hear about another school shooting or suicide. If you are implying that a 'toughen up attitude' is a cause of school shootings and suicides, and therefore implying that this thread could cause a school shooting or suicide, then you need to treat the subject with much more respect. It's ridiculous for you to make such a serious accusation without putting in a serious effort. Nonetheless, if it's a comfort for you, then I'm happy to inform you that LastShadow's welfare was taken into deep consideration in private before this thread was made. Here was my input on it: What is good for LastShadow? Honestly I think this is one of the best things that can be done for his own good. There is no universally good way to punish people -- it depends on the person. And from what I've seen of LastShadow, I think he could use a very stern punishment. It should be made very clear that the way he has been acting gains him no respect and is actually so bad that it inspires people to spread the reasons why he deserves no respect. I think immaturity and puberty might be good explanations why he behaves so poorly, but I don't think he'll just outgrow it. When people are immature at that age 14-17 range, they do outrageous things that warrant extreme punishments and they learn from those punishments. And, again, if you don't agree with this in general, then consider it in particular just for LastShadow. He has been given moderate amounts of disapproval all along the way (on TL.net and B.net) and yet he is still coming full force. Also, I have seen no signs that he is depressive so I'm not concerned at all about lasting emotional scarring. I think LastShadow is a robust and determined person and his most likely response is to anonymously play iCCup/WGTour/West until he gets better and then he'll return to the scene. Of course, there's no way of knowing. Even knowing someone well in real life is rarely enough to predict how they'll react to something. But the solution isn't to avoid interacting with that person at all. LastShadow betrayed the trust and tainted the integrity of a community which many many people are very passionate about. People are going to do what they feel ought to be done. And while all human interaction carries a chance of a negative outcome, that chance is not reason enough for people to paralyze themselves. So about your accusation -- are you simply reminding us that there's a chance this'll turn out bad or do you want to convince us that it will turn out bad? | ||
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LumberJack
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