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[NEW LADDER] 2020 Season 1

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bovienchien
Profile Joined March 2014
Vietnam1152 Posts
February 14 2020 01:14 GMT
#1
2020 Season 1 14/02
(2) Hitchhiker 1.2
(2) New Bloody Ridge
(3) Neo_Sylphid 2.0
(4) La Mancha 1.1
(4) Escalade
(4) Fighting Spirit 1.3
(4) Circuit Breakers 1.0

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2018 Season 1 25/07 (dd/mm)
(2) Blue Storm
(2) Polaris Rhapsody
(2) Heart Break Ridge 2.1
(3) Aztec 2.1
(4) Roadkill 1.13
(4) Fighting Spirit
(4) Circuit Breaker

2018 Season 2 02/10
(2) Benzene 1.1
(2) Heart Break Ridge 2.1
(3) Aztec 2.1
(4) Circuit Breakers 1.0
(4) Fighting Spirit 1.3
(4) In the Way of an Eddy 1.05
(4) Roadkill 1.13

2019 Season 1 03/02
(2) Cross Game
(2) Overwatch
(3) Neo Medusa
(4) Circuit Breaker
(4) Colosseum II
(4) Fighting Spirit
(4) Neo Ground Zero

2019 Season 2 10/07
(2) Overwatch
(2) Tres Pass
(3) Power Bond
(4) BlockChainSE 2.1
(4) Fighting Spirit 1.3
(4) Circuit Breakers 1.0
(4) Gladiator 1.1

2019 Season 3 20/11

(2) Destination
(2) Heartbreak Ridge
(3) Neo_Sylphid
(3) Whiteout
(4) Circuit Breaker
(4) Fighting Spirit
(4) Gladiator


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FyRe_DragOn
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada2056 Posts
February 14 2020 01:16 GMT
#2
bloody ridge is the older version, blizz needs to update it to 2.1
aka DragOn[NaS]
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10682 Posts
February 14 2020 01:47 GMT
#3
I'm hype about the new map pool, haven't played Escalade yet.
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51497 Posts
February 14 2020 02:01 GMT
#4
Someone at blizzard uploaded the obs version of escalade so you can spawn in the middle LOL
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TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10011 Posts
February 14 2020 02:02 GMT
#5
lol
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BlueStar
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Bulgaria1168 Posts
February 14 2020 10:28 GMT
#6
i don't get escalade
Leader of the Bulgarian National SCBW/SC2 team and team pSi.SCBW/SC2
Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2105 Posts
February 14 2020 10:32 GMT
#7
omg la mancha yay <3

just waiting for empire of the sun or grand line to make it into the ladder map pool at some point in the future
WriterDefeating a sandwich only makes it tastier. @imjustziggy
asel
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Germany1600 Posts
February 14 2020 10:53 GMT
#8
Hitchhiker! Yes! <3<3
eSTRO for life | #3 Sea.Really fan! | GGoliath! | aeterna societas honoris | cbta~ | Flash makes Terran look like Toss | aka RevaL
A.Alm
Profile Joined September 2012
Sweden531 Posts
February 14 2020 11:35 GMT
#9
Nice maps!
ZZZero.O
Profile Joined July 2011
Poland1545 Posts
February 14 2020 11:52 GMT
#10
I think it's the worst ladder map pack so far...

Happy there are 3 bans !
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M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4225 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-14 12:17:34
February 14 2020 12:17 GMT
#11
On February 14 2020 20:52 ZZZero.O wrote:
I think it's the worst ladder map pack so far...

Happy there are 3 bans !

???

why

this is most standard map pool so far.
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
LG)Sabbath
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Argentina3024 Posts
February 14 2020 12:33 GMT
#12
what's standard about Hitchhiker?
https://www.twitch.tv/argsabbath/
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12023 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-14 12:39:50
February 14 2020 12:39 GMT
#13
On February 14 2020 21:33 LG)Sabbath wrote:
what's standard about Hitchhiker?


It's being used in a current tournament!

This is easily the best map pool so far. Hitchhiker is the only non standard map, it's semi standard but even so all of the maps are interesting.
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M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4225 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-14 12:50:14
February 14 2020 12:44 GMT
#14
On February 14 2020 21:33 LG)Sabbath wrote:
what's standard about Hitchhiker?

I didn't say all the maps were standard, I just said that it is the most standard map pool so far, Imo

Hitchhiker is really not that hard to learn, too. Its kinda blue stormish (+destructible buildings), but better imo.
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4225 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-14 12:51:29
February 14 2020 12:49 GMT
#15
On February 14 2020 21:39 Qikz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2020 21:33 LG)Sabbath wrote:
what's standard about Hitchhiker?


It's being used in a current tournament!

This is easily the best map pool so far. Hitchhiker is the only non standard map, it's semi standard but even so all of the maps are interesting.

Exactly

people don't like "new" or "oldie but goldie" maps because they're mostly lazy.

I understand the angle they're coming from, but I really dislike it too. One of the things that made BW so fun is that it had SO. MANY. MAPS. It Made for super interesting dynamic between the races (balance), playstyles, etc.

That's why STPL is the best league around! I'm getting the poor man's proleague vibes from it, and I think that was the overall idea in the first place :D
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
LG)Sabbath
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Argentina3024 Posts
February 14 2020 13:43 GMT
#16
On February 14 2020 21:49 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2020 21:39 Qikz wrote:
On February 14 2020 21:33 LG)Sabbath wrote:
what's standard about Hitchhiker?


It's being used in a current tournament!

This is easily the best map pool so far. Hitchhiker is the only non standard map, it's semi standard but even so all of the maps are interesting.

Exactly

people don't like "new" or "oldie but goldie" maps because they're mostly lazy.

Well, I think that for completely new maps like Hitchhiker you need to play very differently and that leads to frustration sometimes so it's understandable that people don't like them. OTOH I rather have something like Hitchhiker than some weird island map that takes months to figure out. I'd also like to see more 3-player maps, those are interesting without being completely different.
https://www.twitch.tv/argsabbath/
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4225 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-14 14:22:15
February 14 2020 14:20 GMT
#17
On February 14 2020 22:43 LG)Sabbath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2020 21:49 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
On February 14 2020 21:39 Qikz wrote:
On February 14 2020 21:33 LG)Sabbath wrote:
what's standard about Hitchhiker?


It's being used in a current tournament!

This is easily the best map pool so far. Hitchhiker is the only non standard map, it's semi standard but even so all of the maps are interesting.

Exactly

people don't like "new" or "oldie but goldie" maps because they're mostly lazy.

Well, I think that for completely new maps like Hitchhiker you need to play very differently and that leads to frustration sometimes so it's understandable that people don't like them. OTOH I rather have something like Hitchhiker than some weird island map that takes months to figure out. I'd also like to see more 3-player maps, those are interesting without being completely different.

It's not a completely new map though, it's over 10 years old.. it just was not used because we had many other new maps being made. Hitchhiker is seriously not that crazy.. I don't know why some people complain that it is a "shit" map . . . We had so many way worse ones in the map pool over the years.

and I agree that the more "nonstandard" maps can lead to frustration.. but BW is frustrating anyways, even when playing on FS/CB so it should not be a biggie :D

I think this is the best map pool yet, actually. Glad they didn't put Inner Coven or Tripod in..

And I agree about the 3 players maps. I wish Whiteout was used more.
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
bovienchien
Profile Joined March 2014
Vietnam1152 Posts
February 14 2020 15:47 GMT
#18
On February 14 2020 20:52 ZZZero.O wrote:
I think it's the worst ladder map pack so far...

Happy there are 3 bans !

Did you ban?
(3) Neo_Sylphid 2.0
(4) Fighting Spirit 1.3
(4) Circuit Breakers 1.0
https://www.facebook.com/StarcraftRemasteredVN/
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10011 Posts
February 14 2020 16:08 GMT
#19
On February 14 2020 20:52 ZZZero.O wrote:
I think it's the worst ladder map pack so far...

Happy there are 3 bans !


i dont like it either but im happy that they kept Sylphid, easily the best modern map
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
Szinkler
Profile Joined July 2018
Hungary394 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-14 17:19:24
February 14 2020 17:19 GMT
#20
On February 14 2020 20:52 ZZZero.O wrote:
I think it's the worst ladder map pack so far...

Happy there are 3 bans !

From the first looks of the maps this was my reaction as well... And I don't think it will change.
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12023 Posts
February 14 2020 18:28 GMT
#21
On February 15 2020 01:08 TT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2020 20:52 ZZZero.O wrote:
I think it's the worst ladder map pack so far...

Happy there are 3 bans !


i dont like it either but im happy that they kept Sylphid, easily the best modern map


I'm not sure what's not to like. 2 current tournament maps, La Mancha which is a great map, FS/CB which people like anyway and New Bloody Ridge which is a highly popular and very fun 2 player map.
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M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4225 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-14 18:43:26
February 14 2020 18:41 GMT
#22
On February 15 2020 03:28 Qikz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2020 01:08 TT1 wrote:
On February 14 2020 20:52 ZZZero.O wrote:
I think it's the worst ladder map pack so far...

Happy there are 3 bans !


i dont like it either but im happy that they kept Sylphid, easily the best modern map


I'm not sure what's not to like. 2 current tournament maps, La Mancha which is a great map, FS/CB which people like anyway and New Bloody Ridge which is a highly popular and very fun 2 player map.

Yeah well..

There are other maps than FS/CB/Sylphid/Gladiator = insta dislike to some, I guess.

Isn't this like the most standard/fun map pool since first Remastered ladder season? Am I crazy? Why so many people dislike it? Please tell us, guys.
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
ash_dreamer_1
Profile Joined February 2020
Russian Federation181 Posts
February 14 2020 23:41 GMT
#23
wow, thx for seasons date info!
kidcrash
Profile Joined September 2009
United States623 Posts
February 15 2020 05:05 GMT
#24
What ever happened to aztec as a ladder/tourney map? I used to love playing on it.
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
February 15 2020 07:02 GMT
#25
Seems like apart from map pool there's literally zero changes... Lol'ed at first post on battle.net hard:
"Thanks for 2x2 ladder" xD
sunbeams are never made like me...
Timebon3s
Profile Joined May 2018
Norway748 Posts
February 15 2020 08:33 GMT
#26
I like that big yellow map, makes for fun macro games ammarite?
oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1238 Posts
February 16 2020 13:36 GMT
#27
I have to admit, Escalade is pretty cool. Easy to claim standard 4-p map vibes, however it's way more complex (what with the different levels and all and the very long rush distances.

ASL games so far seem to confirm this.

Might be the new Sylphid for this year.
wishbonesaka
Profile Joined June 2016
Canada117 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-23 15:04:25
February 22 2020 19:42 GMT
#28
Removed my post as its quoted below, cleans up the page.
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12023 Posts
February 22 2020 19:51 GMT
#29
On February 23 2020 04:42 wishbonesaka wrote:
Hey, does anyone know where Hitchhiker 1.3 obs is, or what are the differences between this version of hitchhiker and this version of hitchhiker are? www.yaoyuan.com

[image loading]


https://910map.tistory.com/37

In korean but essentially the mineral amounts and positions changed for the most part. 1.4 is the newest version.
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wishbonesaka
Profile Joined June 2016
Canada117 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-23 15:05:33
February 22 2020 20:01 GMT
#30
Thank you for the response. Nice website for ASL maps as well, thank you: https://910map.tistory.com/37
noname_
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
459 Posts
February 23 2020 09:40 GMT
#31
Someone should enlighten me what is the purpose of reseting ELO point? I have a feeling they blindly copied it from icc for no obvious reason.
LML
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Germany1772 Posts
February 23 2020 12:03 GMT
#32
On February 23 2020 18:40 noname_ wrote:
Someone should enlighten me what is the purpose of reseting ELO point? I have a feeling they blindly copied it from icc for no obvious reason.


It's something that happens in every game that uses ranked seasons.
Usually it's just a soft reset, though.
LML
onlystar
Profile Joined March 2015
United States971 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-23 18:09:58
February 23 2020 17:51 GMT
#33
who is barcode ''jumpylion'' rank #1 right now?

this looks like another abuse/drophack 25-0 but 8 undecided??

sorry matched with him so it has to be on stream somewhere....
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
February 25 2020 00:28 GMT
#34
Tried to play the game. All of my menus disappear after alt-tab, can't see the enemy (name, race, mmr) or the map before the game. Can't unpause.

Back to Dota.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Sybris
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada28 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-25 03:35:18
February 25 2020 03:35 GMT
#35
Can't we dispense with Fighting Spirit and Circuit Breaker for one season holy shit.
onlystar
Profile Joined March 2015
United States971 Posts
February 25 2020 12:50 GMT
#36
u dont have to play those maps quit whining like a child
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