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BW People Radio Cup, Flash/Bisu/Stork/Zero invited - Page 2

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VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4339 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-21 14:51:20
September 21 2019 14:50 GMT
#21
On September 21 2019 23:46 Lorch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2019 15:48 Akio wrote:
Oh JD is going to the army in a week or 2 already? I mean it was "long overdue" but I didn't know he already announced it

Looking at the history of the event, they have a habit of inviting savior and I remember a lot of drama when he won some 2v2 tourney in China a while back. Honestly, if they can't get JD they might as well get savior over zero.

Huh? I don't see how that could be good, as the others wouldn't be happy with that choice. Zero is a clear and good choice for a JD replacement, he's on fire right now.
Every fan of Starcraft is a fan of Lim Yo Hwan by association
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 21 2019 14:52 GMT
#22
Literally no (ex-)progamer would accept an invite to an event that savior was attending.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4339 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-21 14:59:40
September 21 2019 14:56 GMT
#23
On September 21 2019 23:52 Ej_ wrote:
Literally no (ex-)progamer would accept an invite to an event that savior was attending.

Pretty much.
Anyway this isn't about him in any way.
China BW ftw! It will be amazing.
Every fan of Starcraft is a fan of Lim Yo Hwan by association
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3689 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-21 15:41:05
September 21 2019 15:37 GMT
#24
On September 21 2019 23:52 Ej_ wrote:
Literally no (ex-)progamer would accept an invite to an event that savior was attending.


On September 21 2019 12:52 sc19980331 wrote:
A recap of offline events in China after 2012 (bw dark age till 2017 imo):
In 2013, (Wiki)2013 StarCraft Asian Open
Savior Movie Scan Beast were invited.

In 2014, (Wiki)PLU2014 Starcraft Sino-Korean Carnival
Bisu Zero Sea Movie were invited.

In 2016, (Wiki)2016 Sino-Korean Carnival
Flash Bisu Effort Movie were invited.

In 2018, (Wiki)2018 Hangzhou StarCraft Carnival
Savior was invited, Shinee, Scan and Beast were qualified.


I guess those don't count as (ex-)progamer? I don't even care who they invite, I just think if you have went out of your way to get Kespa to call in, because you keep inviting the worst thing to ever happen to BW (I guess besides the SC2 switch and Blizz suing Kespa/OGN/MBC), you might as well keep doing it.
sc19980331
Profile Joined March 2017
China1609 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-29 14:47:14
September 26 2019 07:22 GMT
#25
On September 21 2019 17:43 VioleTAK wrote:
Wow, looks like it'll be an incredible production.
The venue looks amazing. Even inviting the Stargirls!

You know, it may also come to be the first set that Bisu and Flash could play against each other since Bisu's release from the army. They didn't play more than Bo1 against each other yet inside the league. This event may bring a full set and even offline.

I hope we get VODs or replays from the chinese qualifiers too, that would be very interesting to see.

CN qualifiers vod:
Ro16:
9/21 Jedi Fengqin Xiaoxiaoma Qiaogege
https://b23.tv/av68571318
9/22 Zhanhun Xiaoxin Donghai Jaystar
https://b23.tv/av68696283
9/23 Mihu Leilei SR Guoqian
https://b23.tv/av69002151
9/24 Duguqiubai Kukuboy Fanfan Fengzi
https://b23.tv/av69002062

Quarter finals:
9/25 https://b23.tv/av69003138
9/26 https://b23.tv/av69107093

9/27 semi https://b23.tv/av69247175
9/28 final https://b23.tv/av69353377
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sc19980331
Profile Joined March 2017
China1609 Posts
September 26 2019 10:17 GMT
#26
10/5-6 schedule announced, op updated.
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ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1148 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-28 11:53:49
September 28 2019 01:36 GMT
#27
CN qualifier Semis VODs
https://www.bilibili.com/video/av69247175

CN qualifier Semis results:

+ Show Spoiler +
Mihu (T) 3-1 Zhanhun (P)

DuGuQiuBai (Z) 3-1 JeDi (Z)

(these 4 will be the ones playing the koreans in the main event)

bisufans~
Profile Joined September 2019
9 Posts
September 29 2019 11:21 GMT
#28
CN qualifier result:
1st DuGuQiuBai
2nd Mihu
3rd Zhanhun
4th Jedi

Off-line matches arrangement:
Duguqiubai(z) vs stork(p)
mihu(t) vs zero(z)

bisu(p) vs jedi(z)
flash (t) vs zhanhun(p)

Ro8: Dual tournament, bo3; Ro4: single elimination, bo5; Final: bo7; 3rd place match: bo5
Offline matches will start at Oct 5th, 13:00
sc19980331
Profile Joined March 2017
China1609 Posts
September 29 2019 14:48 GMT
#29
Group details updated in op.
[image loading]
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sc19980331
Profile Joined March 2017
China1609 Posts
September 29 2019 15:00 GMT
#30
Event submitted.
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AdelSC123
Profile Joined March 2010
France362 Posts
September 29 2019 15:38 GMT
#31
On September 22 2019 00:37 Lorch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2019 23:52 Ej_ wrote:
Literally no (ex-)progamer would accept an invite to an event that savior was attending.


Show nested quote +
On September 21 2019 12:52 sc19980331 wrote:
A recap of offline events in China after 2012 (bw dark age till 2017 imo):
In 2013, (Wiki)2013 StarCraft Asian Open
Savior Movie Scan Beast were invited.

In 2014, (Wiki)PLU2014 Starcraft Sino-Korean Carnival
Bisu Zero Sea Movie were invited.

In 2016, (Wiki)2016 Sino-Korean Carnival
Flash Bisu Effort Movie were invited.

In 2018, (Wiki)2018 Hangzhou StarCraft Carnival
Savior was invited, Shinee, Scan and Beast were qualified.


I guess those don't count as (ex-)progamer? I don't even care who they invite, I just think if you have went out of your way to get Kespa to call in, because you keep inviting the worst thing to ever happen to BW (I guess besides the SC2 switch and Blizz suing Kespa/OGN/MBC), you might as well keep doing it.

And it was not without consequence:
https://tl.net/forum/brood-war/525290-information-from-korea?page=101#2019

Theres a reason why when savior is invited only 1 A class pro showed up (Movie), while when he is not invited the cream of the crop shows up. Most pros will not want to play savior even in a ladder game, I have seen bisu leave his ladder game after his opponent revealed he was savior.
sc19980331
Profile Joined March 2017
China1609 Posts
September 29 2019 15:40 GMT
#32
CN players intro:

Duguqiubai
Born in 1996, qualifier winner.
Korean zerg player Ssal aka By.spire invited to China last year, and trained Duguqiubai for 3 months.
So Duguqiubai plays korean style, aggressive muta ZvT, imba hydra ZvP, etc.
He won his first national champion at qualifier final, 4-3 Mihu, nice bo7, vod https://b23.tv/av69353377
Stream https://live.ixigua.com/413257/

Mihu
Born in 1989, qualifier runner up.
Best T player in China now, talented, strongest matchup is TvP. He won 3 champions this year, including online and offline match. And his mmr in 2019S1 is 2400+ at average, sometimes 2500+.
Stream https://www.douyu.com/1521962

Zhanhun
Born in 1992, qualifier 3rd.
Best P player in China now, talented, COSL6(last COSL) winner in 2015. He won 2 champions in 2019.

Jedi
Born in 1987, qualifier 4th.
Old school Z player, 4-0 Movie in spon games this year, his ZvP is very aggressive.
Stream https://www.douyu.com/2737049
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sc19980331
Profile Joined March 2017
China1609 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-29 16:10:03
September 29 2019 15:46 GMT
#33
A recap of CN BW tours top 3 in 2019 below:

Online:
Crowdfunded Cup#1
Mihu Leilei Zhanhun

Crowdfunded Cup#2
Mihu Jedi Fengzi

WindSpeed8(sponsor) Cup
Jaystar Zhanhun Fengzi

Honeybear Cup
Bus Zhanhun AP

BW People Radio Cup qualifier
Duguqiubai Mihu Zhanhun

Offline:
Shenzhen(city name)
Zhanhun Jaystar Caicai

Shanghai
Zhanhun Jedi Duguqiubai

Changzhou
Mihu Zhanhun Fengzi

Summary:
Player=Winner=Runner up=3rd
Mihu 3-1-0
Zhanhun 2-3-2
Duguqiubai 1-0-1
Jaystar 1-1-0
Jedi 0-2-0
Fengzi 0-0-3

CN gosu players tiers in 2019/10 imo:
Tier#1
Mihu/Zhanhun/Duguqiubai
Tier#2
Jedi/Fengzi/Jaystar
Tiers#3
Bus/AP/Leilei

Actually CN BW competitive&active player pool is rather small now, less than 30, and skill gap is huge.
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Highgamer
Profile Joined October 2015
1443 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-29 17:39:26
September 29 2019 17:39 GMT
#34
Original stargirl omg.
VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4339 Posts
September 29 2019 20:02 GMT
#35
Amazing!!!
Can't wait for the games.
Every fan of Starcraft is a fan of Lim Yo Hwan by association
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10012 Posts
September 30 2019 03:32 GMT
#36
i hope they upload the reps;;
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
asel
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Germany1601 Posts
September 30 2019 11:51 GMT
#37
On September 30 2019 00:46 sc19980331 wrote:

Actually CN BW competitive&active player pool is rather small now, less than 30, and skill gap is huge.


Sad to hear. When did the scene fade? Do any of the old legends still play? Like Pj, Lx, F91, Super, ChinaTTTT, hpq, Phoenix, Rushgoon, LoveTT, Eva, Beckham etc?
eSTRO for life | #3 Sea.Really fan! | GGoliath! | aeterna societas honoris | cbta~ | Flash makes Terran look like Toss | aka RevaL
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4139 Posts
September 30 2019 13:58 GMT
#38
On September 30 2019 20:51 asel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2019 00:46 sc19980331 wrote:

Actually CN BW competitive&active player pool is rather small now, less than 30, and skill gap is huge.


Sad to hear. When did the scene fade? Do any of the old legends still play? Like Pj, Lx, F91, Super, ChinaTTTT, hpq, Phoenix, Rushgoon, LoveTT, Eva, Beckham etc?


Well I guess it's a bonus there's still a scene in China? Not really sure what was the size of it before.
s_k_911
Profile Joined August 2008
China362 Posts
October 04 2019 03:13 GMT
#39
Lots of sc-fans in China go to shanghai to watch this event .
It will be a perfect show.
apm200 terran play for fun
sc19980331
Profile Joined March 2017
China1609 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-04 17:40:17
October 04 2019 13:46 GMT
#40
Pics from interpreter Wooyeon https://weibo.com/wooyeon :
Flash
[image loading]
http://wx1.sinaimg.cn/mw690/4c7aba75ly1g7m78e2pc0j20u0140acu.jpg
Bisu
[image loading]
https://wx1.sinaimg.cn/mw690/4c7aba75ly1g7m78fa03rj20u0140jtj.jpg
Zero
[image loading]
https://wx3.sinaimg.cn/mw690/4c7aba75ly1g7m78eslf0j20u01hcqc9.jpg
Stork
[image loading]
https://wx3.sinaimg.cn/mw690/4c7aba75ly1g7m84n0h5jj20sw17cdic.jpg
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