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Rodya
Profile Joined January 2018
546 Posts
January 22 2019 05:27 GMT
#21
On January 22 2019 13:17 imTess wrote:
Hey @ Lumire I just purchased mudfish VPN and followed your guidelines and I am still getting 1 red ping on each game on korea server and being banned trying to play 3;3 Hunt. Does this not effect my ping I thought that was the soul purpose?

Oooh.. I think the purpose is to trick Blizzards 1v1 matchmaking algorithm into matching you with Koreans. I'm not sure how the ping is calculated in custom lobbies, but it's possible that the VPN is actually making it worse.
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arew
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Lithuania1861 Posts
January 22 2019 07:49 GMT
#22
On January 22 2019 14:27 Rodya wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2019 13:17 imTess wrote:
Hey @ Lumire I just purchased mudfish VPN and followed your guidelines and I am still getting 1 red ping on each game on korea server and being banned trying to play 3;3 Hunt. Does this not effect my ping I thought that was the soul purpose?

Oooh.. I think the purpose is to trick Blizzards 1v1 matchmaking algorithm into matching you with Koreans. I'm not sure how the ping is calculated in custom lobbies, but it's possible that the VPN is actually making it worse.


Yeah, definitely. You get a lower ping if you don't use VPN and just join the lobby games in any of the servers.

When it comes to the matchmaking, if you want to get matched with koreans, that's where VPN kicks in.
750/750 emotions fully stacked
kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2042 Posts
January 22 2019 08:23 GMT
#23
You guys are so lucky, its impossible for me to get below 250ms with or without VPN from Denmark.
https://www.twitch.tv/kogetbw
Lumire
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States607 Posts
January 22 2019 08:55 GMT
#24
On January 22 2019 13:17 imTess wrote:
Hey @ Lumire I just purchased mudfish VPN and followed your guidelines and I am still getting 1 red ping on each game on korea server and being banned trying to play 3;3 Hunt. Does this not effect my ping I thought that was the soul purpose?


As others have said, the purpose of mudfish is primarily to trick the MM algorithm into matching you with koreans, it won't help you with custom games.
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TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10742 Posts
January 22 2019 14:00 GMT
#25
I just put on some KPOP and that usually gets me games with Koreans every time, no need for a VPN.
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
January 22 2019 20:08 GMT
#26
On January 22 2019 23:00 GGzerG wrote:
I just put on some KPOP and that usually gets me games with Koreans every time, no need for a VPN.

Korean ballads lower turn rate for non-Korean VPN users, studies suggest.
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SuGo
Profile Joined March 2013
United States681 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-22 20:32:33
January 22 2019 20:31 GMT
#27
On January 22 2019 16:49 arew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2019 14:27 Rodya wrote:
On January 22 2019 13:17 imTess wrote:
Hey @ Lumire I just purchased mudfish VPN and followed your guidelines and I am still getting 1 red ping on each game on korea server and being banned trying to play 3;3 Hunt. Does this not effect my ping I thought that was the soul purpose?

Oooh.. I think the purpose is to trick Blizzards 1v1 matchmaking algorithm into matching you with Koreans. I'm not sure how the ping is calculated in custom lobbies, but it's possible that the VPN is actually making it worse.


Yeah, definitely. You get a lower ping if you don't use VPN and just join the lobby games in any of the servers.

When it comes to the matchmaking, if you want to get matched with koreans, that's where VPN kicks in.


Just to clarify, it's "kicked in" regardless. It's just that in the custom games, when there's 6 other players, it won't work as well, or nearly as well, or even at all. It's still kicked in, but you won't be able to achieve the right latency/ping when there's as many players.

In matchmaking, it's just 1v1, so you can more easily attain <250ms ping (which equates to about TR16); in a 3v3 BGH, it won't keep the same ping obviously and that's why you're suffering.
onlystar
Profile Joined March 2015
United States971 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-22 23:06:30
January 22 2019 23:03 GMT
#28
On January 23 2019 05:31 ProtossGG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2019 16:49 arew wrote:
On January 22 2019 14:27 Rodya wrote:
On January 22 2019 13:17 imTess wrote:
Hey @ Lumire I just purchased mudfish VPN and followed your guidelines and I am still getting 1 red ping on each game on korea server and being banned trying to play 3;3 Hunt. Does this not effect my ping I thought that was the soul purpose?

Oooh.. I think the purpose is to trick Blizzards 1v1 matchmaking algorithm into matching you with Koreans. I'm not sure how the ping is calculated in custom lobbies, but it's possible that the VPN is actually making it worse.


Yeah, definitely. You get a lower ping if you don't use VPN and just join the lobby games in any of the servers.

When it comes to the matchmaking, if you want to get matched with koreans, that's where VPN kicks in.


Just to clarify, it's "kicked in" regardless. It's just that in the custom games, when there's 6 other players, it won't work as well, or nearly as well, or even at all. It's still kicked in, but you won't be able to achieve the right latency/ping when there's as many players.

In matchmaking, it's just 1v1, so you can more easily attain <250ms ping (which equates to about TR16); in a 3v3 BGH, it won't keep the same ping obviously and that's why you're suffering.


as said before it lowers your ping as if you are located in Korea. (but does not help to reduce lag with Korean players)

but I'm very sceptical about the ability to reduce lag if you think logically the VPN acts as a 3rd party making the connection longer less direct making lag in game actually worse.

for Europe location mudfish for sure did not help me to reduce lag the internet highway bottleneck from EU to KR is quite bad

unless you can match with some of the Koreans that use an ISP that does not limit uploading bandwidth to outside KR connections (ie korean isp: KT) you can play on a decent TR12~16 low lat with some of the Korean players)

iG.Arcneon
Profile Joined January 2013
Finland333 Posts
January 23 2019 03:38 GMT
#29
I live in Finland, Europe and I use Mudfish to play SCR.

Most of my games with Mudfish(Korea) are TR20 Extra high, sometimes goes down to 14-16 and with very few to TR8-10.
Even if it sounds really good, the game speed is effected really big time and feels really slow and irritating. Like TR20 is totally different than what I would experience playing same TR on Europe without Mudfish.

Nevertheless I use Mudfish to play, because I get games in matter of seconds.
If I try to get a matchmaking game with my normal Finland IP address, I'm lucky to get couple games in a whole day. Normal queue is from 300 to 1000 seconds and then it either finds me a low rank game or bugs out and starts queue all over again.

Without Mudfish, there would be no SCR Matchmaking for me at all almost, so I'm still thankful for this.
Also tried Mudfish to play with US players by selecting USA VPN and it works too, sometimes bit lower TR but game speed has been still better than vs Koreans.

Definitely worth a try for anyone considering.
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10742 Posts
January 23 2019 14:04 GMT
#30
games in seconds? Wow, I may try it now....
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
QuadroX
Profile Joined August 2017
386 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-23 15:03:46
December 23 2019 15:03 GMT
#31
Mudfish stopped working for me recently. Starcraft client throws an error when I log in using Korean VPN. Anyone else having the same issue? Is it Mudfish-related or I should try another VPN software?
castleeMg
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Canada786 Posts
December 23 2019 15:25 GMT
#32
I don’t use a VPN and 95% of my opponents are Korean
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TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10742 Posts
December 23 2019 15:47 GMT
#33
On December 24 2019 00:25 castleeMg wrote:
I don’t use a VPN and 95% of my opponents are Korean

Same, are you on the west or east coast? I'm in California now
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
QuadroX
Profile Joined August 2017
386 Posts
December 23 2019 16:35 GMT
#34
The issue seems to be fixed, was Mudfish-related I guess.
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
December 23 2019 19:34 GMT
#35
It's been a while, is it worth now to use this or any other VPN to play on korean ladder?
sunbeams are never made like me...
LG)Sabbath
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Argentina3024 Posts
December 23 2019 20:36 GMT
#36
On December 24 2019 00:25 castleeMg wrote:
I don’t use a VPN and 95% of my opponents are Korean

Me too, also I wouldn't pay to have koreans curse at me because of the lag
https://www.twitch.tv/argsabbath/
QuadroX
Profile Joined August 2017
386 Posts
December 30 2019 18:07 GMT
#37
Does not work again. Can somebody sugggest good Korean VPN for BW that does work? I'm not getting Koreans anymore.
wishbonesaka
Profile Joined June 2016
Canada117 Posts
February 28 2020 22:52 GMT
#38
Not Korean server related, but wondering if anyone knows how to stop lag if they try to play on Europe server through Battle.net Region: Europe

I'm in the NA section of the world, but I am the lagger on the Europe end, wondering if any other NA's have found a solution or is it just randomly location based (i'll either lag or I won't situation)?
Pucca2
Profile Joined February 2020
2 Posts
February 29 2020 03:56 GMT
#39
Just play outside Korea if you're not living in Korea. It's an easy solution.
Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2106 Posts
May 02 2020 15:34 GMT
#40
has anyone had any trouble with mudfish recently?
WriterDefeating a sandwich only makes it tastier. @imjustziggy
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