• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 18:35
CET 00:35
KST 08:35
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)8Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns6[BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 103SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-1822Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises3
StarCraft 2
General
Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises Starcraft 2 Zerg Coach
Tourneys
$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) WardiTV Winter Cup WardiTV Mondays SC2 AI Tournament 2026 OSC Season 13 World Championship
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 507 Well Trained Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution
Brood War
General
Potential ASL qualifier breakthroughs? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ I would like to say something about StarCraft BW General Discussion StarCraft & BroodWar Campaign Speedrun Quest
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10 SLON Grand Finals – Season 2
Strategy
Game Theory for Starcraft Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player
Other Games
General Games
Mechabellum Beyond All Reason Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Awesome Games Done Quick 2026! General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Trading/Investing Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced
Blogs
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
Psychological Factors That D…
TrAiDoS
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2697 users

Hwaseung Oz reported to disband - Page 67

Forum Index > BW General
1706 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 65 66 67 68 69 86 Next
Page 23. If I see any more BW vs SC2 debate from that point on you will get banned.
MorNin
Profile Joined June 2010
United States443 Posts
August 30 2011 20:46 GMT
#1321
On August 31 2011 05:42 ICanFlyLow wrote:
We should have foreigners in korea playing BW, im sure alot of good players would like to go if they were given the opportunity to.


Doubt it
Broodwich
Profile Joined February 2009
United States393 Posts
August 30 2011 20:49 GMT
#1322
On August 31 2011 02:48 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:
Well, lets try and turn these frowns UPSIDE DOWN! What if with the slow fall of these Korean exclusive BW teams, we see an increased pushed by KeSPA to reach and international audience and sponsors leading to the formation of more internationally contributing BW teams? The very rigid and relatively isolated Brood War structure may have kept it from being all it can be. Perhaps.....MLG side booth? IEM....side booth? Then let it grow from there. Start small and then have Starcraft together conquer ESPORTS! and all the sadness and tears turn into madness and cheers!

....eh? Jaedong to MLG Orlando, tossing back a cold brewskie with Bisu at Copenhagen, Sharing a plate of stromboli with Stork in Helsinki, Having dinner at White-Ra's with FirebatHero!


Not a realistic option. All of the best international BW players stopped playing. You're not going to get international sponsors without international players. It's why the non-Korean sponsors have moved their focus to other, non-SC1 games (such as the Sony and Stride Gum tie-ins with MLG, or Dr. Pepper). It's been a long time since Coca-Cola or Gillette sponsored the OSL, or Pringles, Reebok, or Pepsi sponsored the MSL. BW's fate, for better or for worse, is tied to Korea.

Also, KeSPA's past bully tactics with outsiders make it unlikely that people are interested in bailing them out. I wonder if KeSPA knew what what happen in the long run with GOM's financial backing and the current state of Brood War if they would have been more likely to support GOM's SC1 efforts. I have a feeling they probably would have worked with GOM if they had to do it all over again, because GOM was making an effort to bring in international fans and sponsors that they lost access to when they fought against GOM.
DerBeefman
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany226 Posts
August 30 2011 21:05 GMT
#1323
So sad seeing so many classic teams disbanding T_T
extended thermal lances aka extended imbalances
slappy
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1271 Posts
August 30 2011 21:05 GMT
#1324
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
TT
I mean... I hate to spam.... but FUCK is the only thing that comes to mind at the moment...
jaedong imba
PeterHuynh
Profile Joined June 2011
United States151 Posts
August 30 2011 21:32 GMT
#1325
so what teams can jaedong realistically join at this moment he cant join cj skt or kt cause it would be to imbalanced he has to be in the airforce to be in air force ace right? so that leaves khan woongjin and stx if he joins woongjin it would probably be imbalanced to i heard so maybe khan or stx?
.
Coldviolet
Profile Joined August 2010
United States110 Posts
August 30 2011 21:42 GMT
#1326
I was serious and all, reading through the original post and rofled on Flash joke

(Still chuckling)
Always Outnumbered, Never Outgunned.
Khul Sadukar
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia1735 Posts
August 30 2011 21:44 GMT
#1327
Wait how the hell am I just reading this now..

Sadly im seeing the end here. What sponsors are going to have confidence to support these teams given the rate of companies bailing on esports?
I don't want to be part everything. I want to be something. - Weapon X
Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
August 30 2011 21:54 GMT
#1328
Kinda probs because Sun AKed Oz lol...

The company def. lost its patience.
▲ ▲ ▲
Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-30 21:58:01
August 30 2011 21:54 GMT
#1329
edit: thanks nymeria
ModeratorBlame yourself or God
nymeria
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States161 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-31 05:54:18
August 30 2011 21:55 GMT
#1330
[Photos] Lecaf Oz in Europe
Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
August 30 2011 21:58 GMT
#1331
^^^ OMG, T_T Don't go OZ!
▲ ▲ ▲
thepuppyassassin
Profile Joined April 2011
900 Posts
August 30 2011 22:03 GMT
#1332
Is Kespa retarded or something? It seems to me they've already identified the problem. The best thing for BW would be to unleash Flash into SC2 and crumble that scene from within.
InFdude
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Bulgaria619 Posts
August 30 2011 22:06 GMT
#1333
--- Nuked ---
Zidane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1689 Posts
August 30 2011 22:07 GMT
#1334
Wait are there even enough teams to do a proleague season anymore? How many bw teams are left?
e_i_pi_1_0
Profile Joined September 2009
933 Posts
August 30 2011 22:09 GMT
#1335
On August 31 2011 07:07 Zidane wrote:
Wait are there even enough teams to do a proleague season anymore? How many bw teams are left?

If all 3 can't find new sponsors, and don't fuse or something, then 7 (SKT, CJ, Khan, Stars, KT, ACE, and STX.)
Jaedong and Hwaseung Oz fan.
NuKedUFirst
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada3139 Posts
August 30 2011 22:11 GMT
#1336
Really sad news, 2011 has been so rough on eSports. 3 sponsors to keep 3 teams alive is going to be tough to find. If none are found, I think there will just be 2 super teams dominating from now on. oh wait..
FrostedMiniWeet wrote: I like winning because it validates all the bloody time I waste playing SC2.
Retgery
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1229 Posts
August 30 2011 22:21 GMT
#1337
Liquid.Jaedong?
Fall down 7 times, stand up 8.
DarkMatter_
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada1774 Posts
August 30 2011 22:24 GMT
#1338
On August 31 2011 06:54 Taekwon wrote:
Kinda probs because Sun AKed Oz lol...

The company def. lost its patience.

The rumor was posted before the STX finals.
yawnoC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States3704 Posts
August 30 2011 22:36 GMT
#1339
On August 31 2011 07:11 NuKedUFirst wrote:
Really sad news, 2011 has been so rough on eSports. 3 sponsors to keep 3 teams alive is going to be tough to find. If none are found, I think there will just be 2 super teams dominating from now on. oh wait..

Lets be real, its been rough on brood war. So far eSports, as a whole, has been going good. I hope kespa can find new sponsorships for the teams though since it would suck to have such a small proleague.
GG - UNiVeRsE is the best player in the WORLD
e_i_pi_1_0
Profile Joined September 2009
933 Posts
August 30 2011 22:41 GMT
#1340
I wonder how long the players on Oz, Wemade, and MBC have known about this for...

Also, I'm curious as to the netizen comments on this, as well as any comments from the Wemade and Oz players.

So the players are staying in their practice houses until the end of September? What will happen to them after?
Jaedong and Hwaseung Oz fan.
Prev 1 65 66 67 68 69 86 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
BSL
20:00
S21 Non-Korean Championship
ZZZero.O303
LiquipediaDiscussion
AI Arena Tournament
20:00
Swiss - Round 1
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
elazer 567
PiGStarcraft493
Nathanias 136
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 654
ZZZero.O 303
NaDa 22
Counter-Strike
summit1g7947
fl0m5683
minikerr10
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox754
Mew2King42
Other Games
tarik_tv4597
FrodaN4578
Grubby3951
Liquid`Hasu339
ToD285
B2W.Neo209
KnowMe187
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick62087
BasetradeTV22
angryscii15
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta46
• HeavenSC 8
• Kozan
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• RayReign 25
• FirePhoenix10
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota23003
League of Legends
• Doublelift6899
Other Games
• imaqtpie2121
• tFFMrPink 12
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Invitational
13h 26m
ByuN vs Percival
Percival vs Rogue
Percival vs Classic
ByuN vs Classic
ByuN vs Rogue
Classic vs Rogue
IPSL
20h 26m
DragOn vs Sziky
Replay Cast
1d 9h
Wardi Open
1d 12h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 17h
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
WardiTV Invitational
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
All Star Teams
6 days
INnoVation vs soO
sOs vs Scarlett
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
[ Show More ]
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S1: W3
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Proleague 2026-01-10
OSC Championship Season 13
Underdog Cup #3
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025

Upcoming

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
Escore Tournament S1: W4
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Rongyi Cup S3
Thunderfire SC2 All-star 2025
Nations Cup 2026
NA Kuram Kup
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.