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Page 23. If I see any more BW vs SC2 debate from that point on you will get banned.
NIIINO
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Slovakia1320 Posts
August 30 2011 07:51 GMT
#1101
this is terrible I hoped that Esport can have one true game that will be played at least forever.
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
August 30 2011 07:53 GMT
#1102
On August 30 2011 16:51 NIIINO wrote:
this is terrible I hoped that Esport can have one true game that will be played at least forever.

never going to happen. Even real sports have evolved from what they were originally were.
www.superbeerbrothers.com
Mattes
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany1116 Posts
August 30 2011 07:55 GMT
#1103
so sad
"Eyo lesson' here, Bey. You're comin' at the king, you best not miss."
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8185 Posts
August 30 2011 08:02 GMT
#1104
On August 30 2011 16:51 NIIINO wrote:
this is terrible I hoped that Esport can have one true game that will be played at least forever.

Right now it's unlikely, just because technique evolves so quickly, that the video game market is incredibly short term. I mean, we consider Starcraft being incredibly old, while it has been there for only 12 or 13 years.

Chess has been there for thousand of years, even a minor game like monopoly is 100 years old.

My bet is that in a couple of decades both computer industry and video games will slow down their pace and we will start to have really good games that stop being outdated because it looks old after a couple of years. But that's just a guess.

Till then, I'm afraid, esport will suck compared to circuits such as chess or regular sports.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
Nyarly
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France1030 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-30 08:04:25
August 30 2011 08:03 GMT
#1105
On August 24 2011 13:01 Sawamura wrote:
i am going to cry in a corner too now T_T

I'll join you so we can cry together in that corner



Any idea of what it means for Jaedong ? Will he search another team ? Switch to sc2 ? Wait for sponsors ?
Sina92
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden1303 Posts
August 30 2011 08:06 GMT
#1106
i'm not very surprised.. :/
My penis is 15 inches long, I'm a Harvard professor and look better than Brad Pitt and Jake Gyllenhaal combined.
Trang
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia324 Posts
August 30 2011 08:07 GMT
#1107
Imagine if Jaedong went to SKT or KT ... it would be an upset if that team ever lost a match.
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
August 30 2011 08:07 GMT
#1108
Gods are cruel. Best of luck to Oz.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
Mithriel
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands2969 Posts
August 30 2011 08:10 GMT
#1109
Sad news for esports, though I wasn't the biggest bw fan, I just got in it ( even bought of this weekend ). Let's Hope esports will continue to grow!
There is no shame in defeat so long as the spirit is unconquered. | Cheering for Maru, Innovation and MMA!
Caladbolg
Profile Joined March 2011
2855 Posts
August 30 2011 08:15 GMT
#1110
On August 30 2011 13:22 Hyde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2011 13:15 Caladbolg wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 30 2011 12:03 Chef wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2011 11:59 LegendaryZ wrote:
If Jaedong retires from BW, I can definitely see him trying his hand at SC2 like several others who've gone before him. I just can't see him as someone that won't continue his pro-gaming career on some level or another. He's just too talented for that.

Most of his interviews talk about him wanting to devote himself to studying so I'm not seeing the logic in dedicating himself to yet another video game. While he's here and the money is good, it's solid, but his interviews suggest he (or maybe just his parents) want more for his life. I would think this is the end for JD progaming if he doesn't get picked up by another team, and maybe even the end if he's just frustrated by the process and sees this as a good time to devote himself to a career.

(I'm a big JD fan but that's why I read his interviews too )


Well he also had that recent interview saying he was going to switch when the time was right.


From what I gather of the Korean school system, it's pretty brutal. If you fall behind early, everyone will be clawing past you. It's hyper-competitive - not a good environment for a progamer (unless you're Flash, who can succeed at everything in life).

I hope along with many others that a sponsor pick up the combined teams, dropping a few of the too expensive players to free agency. I'd like the new team to be like:

Jinair Jets (main line up)

Jaedong (Ace)
Baby
Killer
Jaehoon
Tyson
Anytime
Midas

Free Agents

Sea
Hiya
Shine
Roro
Hyun
etc

You say that as if Flash is the only progamer with enough mental fortitude and determination to make it in education, it's not like Jaedong lacks those traits
and I would switch Midas with Sea haha


Haha of course Jaedong doesn't lack those traits, but for Flash I just feel a certainty I don't feel with other progamers... it's like he was born to excel (take Nada for example, who was/is struggling a bit in Uni trying to catch up).

And if you switch Midas with Sea you might as well crown the future proleague champions haha, they'll be more loaded/top-heavy than SKT or CJ (Bisu, Fanta, Best, Rain, soO < Jaedong, Sea, Baby, Killer, Jaehoon) with legitimate Flash-killers in Jaedong and Baby.
"I don't like the word prodigy at all. To me prodigy sounds like a person who was 'gifted' all these things rather than a person who earned all these talents by hard training... I must train harder to reach my goal." - Flash
Chezus
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands427 Posts
August 30 2011 08:15 GMT
#1111
On August 24 2011 12:55 eton7410 wrote:
In addition, talk about Flash destroying Broodwar.
When Flash won the GomTV Starleague, GomTV stops broadcasting Broodwar.
When Flash won the WCG, WCG bans Broodwar.
When Flash won the SPL for the first time, Estro and Sparkz both disband.
When Flash won the Golden Badge, MBCGame decides to switch to a music channel.
When Flash won the SPL again defeating SKT, Wemade Fox, Hwaseung OZ, and MBCGame all disband.


Soo... Flash is killing ESPORTS?
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 30 2011 08:16 GMT
#1112
By.Sun is hurting esports.
Also I'm gonna cry in a corner and hope that jaedong and minidong get picked up by another team together.
Glorious SEA doto
Weemoed
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands741 Posts
August 30 2011 08:17 GMT
#1113
Another sad day for Starcraft: Broodwar
Bring me to space, and let me wander there forever
MustSeeSC
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States83 Posts
August 30 2011 08:21 GMT
#1114
Jaedong TO SC2?!?!?! PLeeaase!


User was warned for this post
"Cry in the Dojo, Laugh in the Battlefield"
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
August 30 2011 08:22 GMT
#1115
Sad news, i hope kespa finds atleast 1 sponser for a team so it's going to be 8 teams.

Also where will JD go ? Can any pro team pay his salary, i wonder.
Maybe he will do like he said before go study, man that just makes me feel down Jeadong is why i watch broodwar still.
insaneMicro
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Germany761 Posts
August 30 2011 08:23 GMT
#1116
no MSL
no MBC game
no Wemade.Fox

Now no more Oz? What is even happening in Korea?
"Damn I played some fine Zerg right there". -Fruitdealer
Stuv
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Netherlands942 Posts
August 30 2011 08:23 GMT
#1117
FUUUUUU, HiyA and Dong need to stay together.
Jragon
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1471 Posts
August 30 2011 08:24 GMT
#1118
Razer Oz.
You want to be associated with the fastest hands, the coolest temperaments, the greatest skill? Here it is. Lives built on skill and dedication, trained mercilessly, honed in the arena of battle under the watchful eyes of millions, ready to represent. All you have to do is show your support. Be a hero. Sponsor the original Esport.
"Bisu is just too good." - Jaedong (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=218995) "Bisu hyung's play is just too good" - Flash (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=225861)
Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
August 30 2011 08:27 GMT
#1119
you guys do realise it actually costs millions to support a full pro gaming team ?
it's not really surprising
SolidGasPro
Profile Joined August 2011
93 Posts
August 30 2011 08:28 GMT
#1120
The bad thing is only SKT or KT will be able to afford Jaedong's salary. And if any of those teams gets him it will be even more imba for the other teams
"HuK doesn't use Penix." MC
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