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Avalon MSL (Jun 09 - Aug 09) - Page 4

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SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
July 04 2009 22:38 GMT
#61
On July 05 2009 07:33 Macavenger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2009 00:14 botaxkeren wrote:
bisu Jaedong is the nightmare for every zerg....

Fixed.

So let's see how the seeds did in the Ro32:

(Z)Luxury 1-2
(P)JangBi 1-2
(P)Stork 1-2
(Z)ZerO 2-1
(T)NaDa 0-2
(T)Leta 0-2
(Z)sAviOr 1-2
(T)fOrGG 2-1

Only 2 qualifiers, both 2-1, and 2 0-2 epic failures. The Lost Saga MSL may have kinda sucked.


Lost Saga MSL had Nada and Savior, Avalon MSL has neither.

It's clear which MSL sucks more.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
July 04 2009 22:41 GMT
#62
On July 05 2009 07:33 Macavenger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2009 00:14 botaxkeren wrote:
bisu Jaedong is the nightmare for every zerg....

Fixed.

So let's see how the seeds did in the Ro32:

(Z)Luxury 1-2
(P)JangBi 1-2
(P)Stork 1-2
(Z)ZerO 2-1
(T)NaDa 0-2
(T)Leta 0-2
(Z)sAviOr 1-2
(T)fOrGG 2-1

Only 2 qualifiers, both 2-1, and 2 0-2 epic failures. The Lost Saga MSL may have kinda sucked.


No, all those seeds sucked. Tell 'em to shape the fuck up if you want to see the big names make it. Jangbi, Stork, and Luxury didn't deserve to make it, and what to you expect from Nada and Savior? They're in their twilight years.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8156 Posts
July 05 2009 19:22 GMT
#63
This could be a lot like the ClubDay MSL but for reverse Protoss and Zergs. Only 3 Ps in the Ro16 (there were only 3 Zs in the Ro16 of the ClubDay), and it's looking like there might not be any Ps in the Ro8 :O

wtf protosses why do you all suddenly suck except for Bisu?
Free Palestine
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
July 05 2009 19:44 GMT
#64
On July 06 2009 04:22 Ideas wrote:
This could be a lot like the ClubDay MSL but for reverse Protoss and Zergs. Only 3 Ps in the Ro16 (there were only 3 Zs in the Ro16 of the ClubDay), and it's looking like there might not be any Ps in the Ro8 :O

wtf protosses why do you all suddenly suck except for Bisu?


jangbi eliminated two of the dragons with his group
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
vx70GTOJudgexv
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3161 Posts
July 05 2009 23:55 GMT
#65
On July 05 2009 07:38 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2009 07:33 Macavenger wrote:
On July 04 2009 00:14 botaxkeren wrote:
bisu Jaedong is the nightmare for every zerg....

Fixed.

So let's see how the seeds did in the Ro32:

(Z)Luxury 1-2
(P)JangBi 1-2
(P)Stork 1-2
(Z)ZerO 2-1
(T)NaDa 0-2
(T)Leta 0-2
(Z)sAviOr 1-2
(T)fOrGG 2-1

Only 2 qualifiers, both 2-1, and 2 0-2 epic failures. The Lost Saga MSL may have kinda sucked.


Lost Saga MSL had Nada and Savior, Avalon MSL has neither.

It's clear which MSL sucks more.


Yeah, he said - Lost Saga MSL sucked.

I don't care about the fact that sAviOr and NaDa are absent from Avalon MSL Round of 16, because I'd rather see players who are going to be doing well as opposed to players who are going to be getting owned (a la sAviOr, Lost Saga MSL Round of 8). Was it cool to see those two in action once more, garnering seeds? Of course. Is the quality of this MSL (and the likely final) going to be better? Absolutely.

Compare:

Lost Saga MSL Round of 16: (Z)sAviOr, (Z)ZerO, (T)Leta, (Z)Luxury, (P)JangBi, (P)Tempest, free, (Z)Kwanro, (Z)YellOw[ArnC], (T)UpMaGiC, (T)Hwasin, (T)Flash, (T)NaDa, (T)FrOzean, (P)Stork, (T)fOrGG

Avalon MSL Round of 16: (Z)EffOrt, (T)Hwasin, (P)Kal, (P)Bisu, (T)PianO, (Z)Kwanro, (Z)Calm, (Z)ZerO, (T)Iris, (T)UpMaGiC, (T)fantasy, (Z)Jaedong, (T)Flash, (T)Canata, (P)Pure, (T)fOrGG

Lost Saga MSL's draw: sAviOr, NaDa. All the S-Class guys are eliminated.

Avalon MSL's draw: EffOrt, Jaedong, Bisu, fantasy, Flash. THE cream of the crop, right there.
(-_-) BW for ever. #1 Iris fan.
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-14 12:21:14
July 06 2009 06:10 GMT
#66
scforall did all the work for me... THANKS SCFORALL
ModeratorGood content always wins.
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
July 11 2009 23:57 GMT
#67
Every protoss thumbed down outsider and every zerg thumbed down byzantium 3
brood war for life, brood war forever
FearDarkness
Profile Joined February 2009
United States519 Posts
July 14 2009 12:09 GMT
#68
Reaver play owns in outsider
Can't spell Voidrays without Idra
o3.power91
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bahrain5288 Posts
July 14 2009 12:41 GMT
#69
Based on July kespa rankings, today's winners will be facing the following opponents in the Ro8 I believe:

(Z)ZerO vs (Z)Kwanro/(Z)Calm/(T)UpMaGiC

(Z)Calm vs (Z)ZerO/(T)UpMaGiC/(Z)EffOrt/(T)Hwasin

(Z)Kwanro vs (Z)ZerO/(P)Kal/(P)Bisu/(T)fantasy

(T)Canata vs (Z)Jaedong/(P)Bisu/(T)fantasy

Can anyone correct any mistakes
o3.power91
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bahrain5288 Posts
July 14 2009 13:05 GMT
#70
As for the remaining players, assuming they qualify, these will be their possible opponents:

(Z)Jaedong vs (T)Canata (for sure if (Z)Jaedong beats (P)Kal)

(P)Bisu vs (T)Iris/(Z)Kwanro/(T)Canata

(T)fantasy vs (T)Iris/(Z)Kwanro/(T)Canata

(P)Kal vs (T)Iris/(Z)Kwanro

(Z)EffOrt vs (T)Hwasin/(Z)Calm

(T)Hwasin vs (Z)EffOrt/(Z)Calm

(T)UpMaGiC vs (Z)Calm/(Z)ZerO

(T)Iris vs (P)Bisu/(T)fantasy/(P)Kal

Just giving people an idea of how the Ro8 will look like
Can anyone correct any mistakes?
Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-14 13:46:39
July 14 2009 13:45 GMT
#71
(Z)Jaedong vs (T)Canata (pretty locked up match up as Jaedong leads 1-0 against Kal)

(Z)EffOrt vs (Z)Calm (calm qualified and Effort leading 1-0 vs upmagic)

(Z)ZerO vs (Z)Kwanro (Both players qualified)

(P)Bisu vs (T)Iris (Both players leading their series 1-0)

Only thing I can see here is Bisu changing to Fantasy but even that wont effect brackets.
o3.power91
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bahrain5288 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-14 15:32:02
July 14 2009 15:31 GMT
#72
On July 14 2009 22:45 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
(Z)Jaedong vs (T)Canata (pretty locked up match up as Jaedong leads 1-0 against Kal)

(Z)EffOrt vs (Z)Calm (calm qualified and Effort leading 1-0 vs upmagic)

(Z)ZerO vs (Z)Kwanro (Both players qualified)

(P)Bisu vs (T)Iris (Both players leading their series 1-0)

Only thing I can see here is Bisu changing to Fantasy but even that wont effect brackets.

Those brackets remind me of ClubDay MSL. Only a lot more red and a lot less green

Edit: IIRC, Ro8 of Clubday MSL had 5 Protoss, 2 Terrans, and 1 Zerg. XD
Nylan
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States795 Posts
July 14 2009 15:33 GMT
#73
DO IT Canata, DO IT.
BeSt/Pure/Canata/Calm - I believe in Doh Jae Wook
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
July 14 2009 23:45 GMT
#74
K-K-K-KWANROLLEDD
Peace~
Murdoink
Profile Joined March 2009
Chile1219 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-16 11:19:29
July 15 2009 00:00 GMT
#75
(Z)EffOrt/(T)UpMaGiC vs (T)Iris/(T)Hwasin
(Z)Jaedong/(P)Kal vs (P)Bisu/(T)fantasy
(T)Canata vs (Z)Kwanro
(Z)Calm vs (Z)ZerO

source: fomos

*edit: lol wrong
SNARF HWAITING
aeonshifter
Profile Joined April 2009
United States123 Posts
July 15 2009 00:04 GMT
#76
^ I was under the impression that the brackets were re-seeded based on KeSPA ranking after this round.
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
July 15 2009 00:06 GMT
#77
On July 15 2009 09:04 aeonshifter wrote:
^ I was under the impression that the brackets were re-seeded based on KeSPA ranking after this round.

Ya, as you can see, the Ro16 doesn't actually connect to the Ro8 in the diagram.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
littlechava
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States7221 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-16 12:05:12
July 16 2009 12:01 GMT
#78
On July 15 2009 09:04 aeonshifter wrote:
^ I was under the impression that the brackets were re-seeded based on KeSPA ranking after this round.

So now it'll be:
+ Show Spoiler +
(Z)Jaedong v (T)Canata
(P)Bisu v (T)Iris
(Z)ZerO v (Z)Kwanro
(Z)EffOrt v (Z)Calm

edit: not sure if this needs to be spoilered (better safe than sorry)
correct?
shame theres two ZvZ matches :[
Entusman #12
JohnBall
Profile Joined December 2008
Brazil1272 Posts
July 16 2009 12:04 GMT
#79
On July 14 2009 22:45 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
(Z)Jaedong vs (T)Canata (pretty locked up match up as Jaedong leads 1-0 against Kal)

(Z)EffOrt vs (Z)Calm (calm qualified and Effort leading 1-0 vs upmagic)

(Z)ZerO vs (Z)Kwanro (Both players qualified)

(P)Bisu vs (T)Iris (Both players leading their series 1-0)


Today's results confirm this. One ZvT, one PvT and 2 ZvZs.
Jaedong and Bisu should just walk over their opponents and the two ZvZs have potential to be epic.
perfecting the art of five pool forever
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
July 16 2009 12:05 GMT
#80
On July 16 2009 21:04 JohnBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2009 22:45 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
(Z)Jaedong vs (T)Canata (pretty locked up match up as Jaedong leads 1-0 against Kal)

(Z)EffOrt vs (Z)Calm (calm qualified and Effort leading 1-0 vs upmagic)

(Z)ZerO vs (Z)Kwanro (Both players qualified)

(P)Bisu vs (T)Iris (Both players leading their series 1-0)


Today's results confirm this. One ZvT, one PvT and 2 ZvZs.
Jaedong and Bisu should just walk over their opponents and the two ZvZs have potential to be epic.


Iris has never been a "walkover".
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
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