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Heen
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Korea (South)2178 Posts
June 14 2009 13:20 GMT
#1
Our team just won the national qualifiers. Free trip to Singapore! I'm happy cakes. We played pretty steadily considering

1. It was our first time playing as a team (all 5)
2. I was on a eurotrip for 3 weeks with no dota whatsoever and I had to play after the day I got back

Finals Replays:

Game 1
necro/rhasta/zeus/abaddon/lich vs es/wl/chen/doom/pugna
me necro
We had much stronger late game potential so we stall the game until we (I) get fat. I played kind of sloppily at times, not managing my mana pool intelligently and running into fights with poor judgment and coordination

Game 2
rhasta/es/puck/lich/tide vs sandking/potm/necro/bane/zeus
me puck
Quite the reverse of game 1 where we need to force team fights and push asap. Annoying lane but top lane got raped harder so whatever Not much to say except that our lineup is packed full of rape in teamfights and we made good use of it, keeping the pressure on.

We definitely need to improve on certain points and practice more as a team now that there are no scheduling conflicts. But I'm pretty excited and think we can be a solid team even vs foreign powers.

*****
('''(G_G/'''')
myrmidon2537
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Philippines2188 Posts
June 14 2009 13:23 GMT
#2
Congratulations ^^
IPT.PromilKid: I'm only good at Marvel
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
June 14 2009 13:37 GMT
#3
what do u mean free trip to singapore? the finals are held in singapore?
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66161 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-14 14:01:19
June 14 2009 13:57 GMT
#4
SINGAPORE?

WHERE? :D?

Edit: Btw I thought Koreans all play Chaos...
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R3condite
Profile Joined August 2008
Korea (South)1541 Posts
June 14 2009 14:23 GMT
#5
nice, gj!
ggyo...
Heen
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Korea (South)2178 Posts
June 14 2009 14:27 GMT
#6
Yes, the actual nation-vs-nations will take place in Singapore and basically free trip to singapore since WCG sponsors our trip there instead of us having to pay for the free with our own money.

I can only estimate but there are at least 20 times more Chaos players than DotA players which is why Korean dota is pretty weak since there are no ih leagues or vouch/safelist so even the best of Korea play regularly in pubs. Need bigger player base -> more communities -> more education for stubborn bfury first going noobs and higher lvl play promoting league in general
('''(G_G/'''')
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
June 14 2009 14:44 GMT
#7
Congrats
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
King K. Rool
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada4408 Posts
June 14 2009 14:48 GMT
#8
Congrats! Looking at replays right now.
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
June 14 2009 14:51 GMT
#9
Grats sounds awesome! Where do you usually play?
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Batibot
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines348 Posts
June 14 2009 14:51 GMT
#10
Congrats! How did your team form itself?
Jaedong has to be a Bonjwa. Tired of of rooting for July.
Butigroove
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Seychelles2061 Posts
June 14 2009 15:07 GMT
#11
No sadist?
Vs nether ward too?
WAT A NOOB

Not really, but isn't sadist imba good, esp if youre going out of your way to buy regen (blood stone) and it looks as if you have mana problems all game.
beach beers buds beezies b-b-b-baaanelings
GogoKodo
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Canada1785 Posts
June 14 2009 15:58 GMT
#12
Congrats.
twitter: @terrancem
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66161 Posts
June 14 2009 16:09 GMT
#13
Come meet us living in Singapore!
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Dknight
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States5223 Posts
June 14 2009 16:34 GMT
#14
Can't wait to watch Singapore's qualifiers unfold. Should be some great matches.
WGT<3. Former CL/NW head admin.
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-14 16:49:14
June 14 2009 16:46 GMT
#15
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GG bear cheering 4 u <3.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9021 Posts
June 14 2009 16:47 GMT
#16
First time play as a team and won national qualifier? You guys must be really good or the others really suck.
dinmsab
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Malaysia2246 Posts
June 14 2009 17:25 GMT
#17
better watch out.. singaporeans take their dota very seriously. Good luck
..
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
June 14 2009 17:51 GMT
#18
good stuff heenie weenie

watching the reps now, judging by the lineups i'll be watching game 2 first
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
Ingenol
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1328 Posts
June 14 2009 17:53 GMT
#19
Cool! Sorry I'm a huge newb, but what's Chaos? Is it a standalone game?
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
June 14 2009 18:14 GMT
#20
HEEEEEEEEEN!!!
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
OmgIRok
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Taiwan2699 Posts
June 14 2009 18:16 GMT
#21
my first time playing with my friends as a team, we raped!! (on pubs ofc)
teehee playing with a team is so fun wahahaha
"Wanna join my [combo] clan?" "We play turret d competitively"
nbtnbt5
Profile Joined March 2009
232 Posts
June 14 2009 18:17 GMT
#22
WAIT DOTA IS IN WCG NOW?!?!?

I thought WCG wasn't going to include DotA in 2009 because of the poor reception in 2008?
Yellow: "Well boxer's kind of a tool like that, wanting to bunker rush me all the time but hiding it behind all that deception."
Naib
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Hungary4843 Posts
June 14 2009 18:48 GMT
#23
On June 14 2009 23:27 Heen wrote:
Yes, the actual nation-vs-nations will take place in Singapore and basically free trip to singapore since WCG sponsors our trip there instead of us having to pay for the free with our own money.

I can only estimate but there are at least 20 times more Chaos players than DotA players which is why Korean dota is pretty weak since there are no ih leagues or vouch/safelist so even the best of Korea play regularly in pubs. Need bigger player base -> more communities -> more education for stubborn bfury first going noobs and higher lvl play promoting league in general



FULLY ENDORSE THAT IDEA DOTA-UNIVERSE WIDE!
Complete the cycle!
nbtnbt5
Profile Joined March 2009
232 Posts
June 14 2009 19:13 GMT
#24
On June 15 2009 02:53 Ingenol wrote:
Cool! Sorry I'm a huge newb, but what's Chaos? Is it a standalone game?


It's another AOS map like DotA only with different items and heros.
Yellow: "Well boxer's kind of a tool like that, wanting to bunker rush me all the time but hiding it behind all that deception."
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11390 Posts
June 14 2009 19:31 GMT
#25
On June 15 2009 03:48 Naib wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2009 23:27 Heen wrote:
Yes, the actual nation-vs-nations will take place in Singapore and basically free trip to singapore since WCG sponsors our trip there instead of us having to pay for the free with our own money.

I can only estimate but there are at least 20 times more Chaos players than DotA players which is why Korean dota is pretty weak since there are no ih leagues or vouch/safelist so even the best of Korea play regularly in pubs. Need bigger player base -> more communities -> more education for stubborn bfury first going noobs and higher lvl play promoting league in general



FULLY ENDORSE THAT IDEA DOTA-UNIVERSE WIDE!

There have been enough plagues/epidemics already.

We don't need any more. ~_~
Moderator。◕‿◕。
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
June 14 2009 19:32 GMT
#26
congrats, whos on your team nowadays
rgfdxm
Profile Joined December 2006
United States239 Posts
June 14 2009 21:39 GMT
#27
The team battles in the first game were amazing to watch. Thanks for the replays Heen.
Heen
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Korea (South)2178 Posts
June 14 2009 23:35 GMT
#28
We've only played with the 3 or 4 of us as a team in scrims so we weren't exactly unfamiliar with each other. And Korea is a small country with a lot of people likely to live in or near Seoul so we just got together at a PC bang and it was great fun in general. Talking about dota over dinner with people you've known for a while online and making fun of them irl :D

@Butigroove: getting aura on necro is a must and I really needed the extra hp so maxing out sadist would have left me with less hp/mana. I spammed pulse too much and didn't go home often enough before pushes/fights early on. In fact, I usually do get more sadist but I wanted to play it safe. Besides bstone makes sadist unnecessary and I don't remember having mana issues after bstone.

And our team roster is:
xD.Heen
xD.Devil
TOFU_March
TOFU_Boden
Kd.Mystyle (also TOFU)

but we plan to unite under one team name o_O

and yes, Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia and China are Asia's big four so we better be prepared ~_~
('''(G_G/'''')
n
Profile Joined May 2009
United States48 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-15 00:16:36
June 15 2009 00:16 GMT
#29
On June 15 2009 02:25 dinmsab wrote:
singaporeans take their dota very seriously.

zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
June 16 2009 22:49 GMT
#30
tofu_march is pretty cool
Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
June 16 2009 22:59 GMT
#31
O_o Heen 형 suppp
Haven't talked to you or bottle since a year now [ wow already ] glad to see you doing well. Keep it up!
Heen
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Korea (South)2178 Posts
June 17 2009 05:30 GMT
#32
Hey~
Long time no see indeed. Do you still play for fun? I haven't even seen you posting here that much either O_O

zulu, you know march?

Thinking about my necro, sadist may have worked better as I usually do. I've never used that skill build before, which is why my farming was slower than usual. I was going to go heart after bstone anyway so the extra mana wouldn't have hurt I suppose. Ironic, considering I'm the one who always bitches about people overrating bonus attributes.

Our team also plans on participating in ADC 2009, here are the brackets for the qualifers:
http://www.garena.com/tournament/index.php?control=Display&sno=1&sid=535

Any teams that we need to look out for?

I'll upload ADC replays when we play them (26th) ^_^
('''(G_G/'''')
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
June 17 2009 06:00 GMT
#33
hope u win it all
Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-17 06:09:44
June 17 2009 06:07 GMT
#34
I still play for fun with friends, although much much less. I tried looking for you on MSN O_o. Mostly tdas and dota-league.
and yeah I almost post none at all because I don't care/like TL's community nowadays for the most part. I also stopped posting in the DotA thread because I felt like that was a waste. It started out as me trying to genuinely help people but it was largely ignored and it quickly degraded into what it is now....

March played with Eddie on the old TPL for a bit, no? That's what my friend/teammate tells me anyway.

Your sadist was only a few levels late, maybe 3-5 from what I saw skimming the replay. That was pretty good for not playing for 3 weeks.

I can't help you out on those brackets, I only know NA and Euro teams ;x
Looking forward to the reps^^

Edit: I woulda been in korea to teach again this summer but the only job I found had scheduling conflicts with my school starting up again [ you know how it is, opposite long breaks ] so I just missed out on playing dota with you again or meeting up [ UNLIKE PAPER!!! ] ><
Heen
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Korea (South)2178 Posts
June 20 2009 16:11 GMT
#35
We scrimmed against Kingsurf.SG today (3 games) and got our asses handed to us

Here's Game 2, the only game worth watching. Besides my axe sucking, their map control is really strong and necro + undying is -_- It's 'easy' to watch replays and analyze what the team ought to be doing but damn these guys are a pain in the ass to deal with in game. We were missing one of our starting members so the outcome was to be expected.

It was a nice reality check, since it gave us a good chance to improve our play and experience first hand how we ought to be playing (map movement-wise and tactics-wise).
('''(G_G/'''')
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
June 20 2009 17:04 GMT
#36
i just know march from the IDEC replays, he seems to play often
Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
June 20 2009 17:34 GMT
#37
Those are the best types of games to lose imo, its a nice reality check as you say. Thanks for the rep.

The only thing I cringed at was giving up necro and undying in a .59d game o.o...

Zulu you still play?
Heen
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Korea (South)2178 Posts
June 20 2009 17:48 GMT
#38
haha just to make it clear, giving both necro and undying wasn't intentional. Right after they picked both undying and necro without giving it a second thought (lol) march said something along the lines of: 'oh fuck, I must be out of my mind'

Biggest flaws in our gameplay:

1. Uncoordinated map movement (running to places because we 'think' there might be a purpose once we get there, if you know what I mean)
2. Proper warding: ward placements that have meaning and aren't always in the damn rune spots. I actually prefer warding one side of the map (1 runespot + 1 in front of tower) more than warding both rune spots. It makes it much easier to read their movement. But I'm carry/semi-carry so that's something we need to talk about I guess.

But yeah, the whole time, we were having fun being schooled. There's no hesitance in their movement -_- It's as if they're all sure they're going to the right place.
('''(G_G/'''')
Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
June 20 2009 18:26 GMT
#39
congrats, heen! im happy for you
checking out the reps now
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