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ZeroCartin
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2390 Posts
May 19 2009 15:16 GMT
#1
OK new comic ONCE again! This time, Leo tries his ways with the tablet

Hope u guys like it. Constructive criticism please ^_^

LINK: http://www.comicnoobs.com

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"My sister is on vacation in Costa Rica right now. I hope she stays a while because she's a miserable cunt." -pubbanana
chobopeon
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States7342 Posts
May 19 2009 15:29 GMT
#2
i read all 7. here are my thoughts:

these comics dont really seem to have a point. they're as incoherent as a 4chan thread except they've got stick illustrations instead of image macros. is english not your first language? maybe try comics in spanish - smaller audience perhaps but i bet you know your way around the language.

i think i like the art work. theres a lot of potential in them. maybe try less stick figure and more full drawings - you seem to have the talent to go outside of the stick figure cliche.

epic/win/boobs/gay does not a funny comic make.

so, go the extra mile with the art - you obviously have potential.
and plan out a story with a beginning middle and end. this is not to say that all comics must be structured in such a plain way, but you should start there and work your way to more advanced concepts later.

or just stick with epic boobs, whatever.
:O
ZeroCartin
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2390 Posts
May 19 2009 15:37 GMT
#3
On May 20 2009 00:29 choboPEon wrote:
i read all 7. here are my thoughts:

these comics dont really seem to have a point. they're as incoherent as a 4chan thread except they've got stick illustrations instead of image macros. is english not your first language? maybe try comics in spanish - smaller audience perhaps but i bet you know your way around the language.

i think i like the art work. theres a lot of potential in them. maybe try less stick figure and more full drawings - you seem to have the talent to go outside of the stick figure cliche.

epic/win/boobs/gay does not a funny comic make.

so, go the extra mile with the art - you obviously have potential.
and plan out a story with a beginning middle and end. this is not to say that all comics must be structured in such a plain way, but you should start there and work your way to more advanced concepts later.

or just stick with epic boobs, whatever.

Thx man

Yeah, its not our primary language, and we DO want to keep it kinda random * we like that sense of humor*. And stick figures is kinda like the style we are definetely keepin, so srry bout that

And about the story, we've been tryin to work on it more and more on each comic, trying to get it to flow better Thx for the c&c!
"My sister is on vacation in Costa Rica right now. I hope she stays a while because she's a miserable cunt." -pubbanana
chobopeon
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States7342 Posts
May 19 2009 15:41 GMT
#4
i dont mind randomness or stick figures but when you combine the two and add in a dash of "epic win boobs gay" you come off like a 15 year old trolling 4chan. that may or may not be your goal, all up to you.
:O
BreaK
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada890 Posts
May 19 2009 15:43 GMT
#5
I actually really like the style, thats the last thing I would change.

It's weird, none of these have actually made me laugh, but for some reason I'm going to keep reading them every time you post a new one. I'm not sure why, maybe its something to do with the "potential" that choboPEon mentioned.
formerly ClouD.BreaK ~ gogo KTF! & Liquid!
Dgtl
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada889 Posts
May 19 2009 15:48 GMT
#6
Hahahaha, that's pretty good
^______________^
ZeroCartin
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2390 Posts
May 19 2009 15:49 GMT
#7
On May 20 2009 00:41 choboPEon wrote:
i dont mind randomness or stick figures but when you combine the two and add in a dash of "epic win boobs gay" you come off like a 15 year old trolling 4chan. that may or may not be your goal, all up to you.

Um, then you totally didnt get it. The idea was that Leo only wanted to make fun of Zero in the lamest and most childish way, and call it a comic.
"My sister is on vacation in Costa Rica right now. I hope she stays a while because she's a miserable cunt." -pubbanana
chobopeon
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States7342 Posts
May 19 2009 15:53 GMT
#8
and what about in the other 6? :O
:O
ZeroCartin
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2390 Posts
May 19 2009 16:03 GMT
#9
On May 20 2009 00:53 choboPEon wrote:
and what about in the other 6? :O

*sigh* sooo hard to please every1 -_-
"My sister is on vacation in Costa Rica right now. I hope she stays a while because she's a miserable cunt." -pubbanana
andiCR
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2273 Posts
May 19 2009 16:36 GMT
#10
lol my favorite so far
Nightmare1795 wrote: I played a guy in bronze who said he was Japanese. That was the only game I ever dropped a nuke, which was purely coincidental.
Hammy
Profile Joined January 2009
France828 Posts
May 19 2009 16:45 GMT
#11
I didn't like this one at all, but I liked the 6 others.
Wohmfg
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom1292 Posts
May 19 2009 16:59 GMT
#12
Haha I love these comics man.
BW4Life!
boesthius
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States11637 Posts
May 19 2009 17:13 GMT
#13
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chobopeon
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States7342 Posts
May 19 2009 17:25 GMT
#14
On May 20 2009 01:03 ZeroCartin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2009 00:53 choboPEon wrote:
and what about in the other 6? :O

*sigh* sooo hard to please every1 -_-


hey you asked for honesty :p
:O
tyrant001
Profile Joined May 2009
Costa Rica14 Posts
May 19 2009 17:25 GMT
#15
On May 20 2009 00:53 choboPEon wrote:
and what about in the other 6? :O


Hi, Im leo !

I wanted to start by thanking you for your feedback. It doesnt matter if it pretty much said "you guys suck", at least I can see you based your opinion on...something, and werent just trolling.

However, I dont agree with your recommendations. We know we are "random", and we sure know we draw things in "stick figures".

And we love it.

Our target audience are english-speaking-webcomic-viewers.

We dont want it to be in spanish cause, quite frankly, is a VERY small percentage of the market.

I think zero and the rest of viewers can agree with me that we have gotten better with the script in the latest comics, and well, is only # 7! I can only imagine what we will come up with on comic # 666 (hint)

Once again, thanks for your feedback. Its a shame you didnt like what we have to show so far.

For the rest of teamliquid users who have expressed their opinions via this forum: THANK YOU as well. We take great pride in what we do, but we also listen to your comments, so, keep them coming!
Papaya tanned boy
ZeroCartin
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2390 Posts
May 19 2009 17:39 GMT
#16
On May 20 2009 02:25 tyrant001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2009 00:53 choboPEon wrote:
and what about in the other 6? :O


Hi, Im leo !

I wanted to start by thanking you for your feedback. It doesnt matter if it pretty much said "you guys suck", at least I can see you based your opinion on...something, and werent just trolling.

However, I dont agree with your recommendations. We know we are "random", and we sure know we draw things in "stick figures".

And we love it.

Our target audience are english-speaking-webcomic-viewers.

We dont want it to be in spanish cause, quite frankly, is a VERY small percentage of the market.

I think zero and the rest of viewers can agree with me that we have gotten better with the script in the latest comics, and well, is only # 7! I can only imagine what we will come up with on comic # 666 (hint)

Once again, thanks for your feedback. Its a shame you didnt like what we have to show so far.

For the rest of teamliquid users who have expressed their opinions via this forum: THANK YOU as well. We take great pride in what we do, but we also listen to your comments, so, keep them coming!

*nods* lmao
"My sister is on vacation in Costa Rica right now. I hope she stays a while because she's a miserable cunt." -pubbanana
never_Nal
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica676 Posts
May 19 2009 18:21 GMT
#17
On May 20 2009 02:25 tyrant001(LEO TEH NOOBY GAY) wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2009 00:53 choboPEon wrote:
and what about in the other 6? :O


Hi, Im leo !

I wanted to start by thanking you for your feedback. It doesnt matter if it pretty much said "you guys suck", at least I can see you based your opinion on...something, and werent just trolling.

However, I dont agree with your recommendations. We know we are "random", and we sure know we draw things in "stick figures".

And we love it.

Our target audience are english-speaking-webcomic-viewers.

We dont want it to be in spanish cause, quite frankly, is a VERY small percentage of the market.

I think zero and the rest of viewers can agree with me that we have gotten better with the script in the latest comics, and well, is only # 7! I can only imagine what we will come up with on comic # 666 (hint)

Once again, thanks for your feedback. Its a shame you didnt like what we have to show so far.

For the rest of teamliquid users who have expressed their opinions via this forum: THANK YOU as well. We take great pride in what we do, but we also listen to your comments, so, keep them coming!


Noob in Action, :D OMG OMG OMG 666 Z__Z.
You Guys are doing great, I love them. Keep it Up NOOBS
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VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-19 18:28:06
May 19 2009 18:25 GMT
#18
I liked #2 and #6 ^^

I think the style is really cool. But the script could improve. I'm not any comedy genius to tell you exactly what is going wrong, so I'm sorry I can't give any better feedback. Maybe I'm just dumb and didn't get it, but most of them I just didn't find funny :p
Great people talk about ideas. Average people talk about things. Small people talk about other people.
Tensai176
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Canada2061 Posts
May 19 2009 19:12 GMT
#19
Love everything but the script could use some work. I`m not an expert but you should try playing on Irony, the most simplest example i can think of is,

Zero: Only an idiot would buy that shitty game,
*After work, Zero comes home*
Leo: Hey, check out this awesome game I got.

And such, that's the simplest one, but jokes like this make me laugh =)
We see things they'll never see
SoulMarine
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States586 Posts
May 19 2009 19:41 GMT
#20
On May 20 2009 00:37 ZeroCartin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2009 00:29 choboPEon wrote:
i read all 7. here are my thoughts:

these comics dont really seem to have a point. they're as incoherent as a 4chan thread except they've got stick illustrations instead of image macros. is english not your first language? maybe try comics in spanish - smaller audience perhaps but i bet you know your way around the language.

i think i like the art work. theres a lot of potential in them. maybe try less stick figure and more full drawings - you seem to have the talent to go outside of the stick figure cliche.

epic/win/boobs/gay does not a funny comic make.

so, go the extra mile with the art - you obviously have potential.
and plan out a story with a beginning middle and end. this is not to say that all comics must be structured in such a plain way, but you should start there and work your way to more advanced concepts later.

or just stick with epic boobs, whatever.

Thx man

Yeah, its not our primary language, and we DO want to keep it kinda random * we like that sense of humor*. And stick figures is kinda like the style we are definetely keepin, so srry bout that

And about the story, we've been tryin to work on it more and more on each comic, trying to get it to flow better Thx for the c&c!


you pretty much took into consideration none of what he said. You basically sugar coated "well I don't like your ideas, i'm truckin' old school." and you say your'e open to c&c.

Also, I used to make signatures at NSL and criticism there is pretty hardcore.
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tyrant001
Profile Joined May 2009
Costa Rica14 Posts
May 19 2009 19:57 GMT
#21
On May 20 2009 04:12 Tensai176 wrote:
Love everything but the script could use some work. I`m not an expert but you should try playing on Irony, the most simplest example i can think of is,

Zero: Only an idiot would buy that shitty game,
*After work, Zero comes home*
Leo: Hey, check out this awesome game I got.

And such, that's the simplest one, but jokes like this make me laugh =)


Hi Tensai!

Thanks for the suggestion!

We are always trying to improve, both the art, and the script.

We will give some thought to the "quick and easy...but funny" ideas, like your example. Like I mentioned before, this is only our seventh comic, and this is just the begining. (We are always learning!)

Deep regards,

Leo

Papaya tanned boy
ZeroCartin
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2390 Posts
May 19 2009 20:00 GMT
#22
On May 20 2009 04:41 SoulMarine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2009 00:37 ZeroCartin wrote:
On May 20 2009 00:29 choboPEon wrote:
i read all 7. here are my thoughts:

these comics dont really seem to have a point. they're as incoherent as a 4chan thread except they've got stick illustrations instead of image macros. is english not your first language? maybe try comics in spanish - smaller audience perhaps but i bet you know your way around the language.

i think i like the art work. theres a lot of potential in them. maybe try less stick figure and more full drawings - you seem to have the talent to go outside of the stick figure cliche.

epic/win/boobs/gay does not a funny comic make.

so, go the extra mile with the art - you obviously have potential.
and plan out a story with a beginning middle and end. this is not to say that all comics must be structured in such a plain way, but you should start there and work your way to more advanced concepts later.

or just stick with epic boobs, whatever.

Thx man

Yeah, its not our primary language, and we DO want to keep it kinda random * we like that sense of humor*. And stick figures is kinda like the style we are definetely keepin, so srry bout that

And about the story, we've been tryin to work on it more and more on each comic, trying to get it to flow better Thx for the c&c!


you pretty much took into consideration none of what he said. You basically sugar coated "well I don't like your ideas, i'm truckin' old school." and you say your'e open to c&c.

Also, I used to make signatures at NSL and criticism there is pretty hardcore.


I didnt bash his crits, i just dont agree.Taking c&c doest mean u have to agree on everything someone has to say. I do appreciate the input, and I know that we must keep improving on alot of stuff :p

What is NSL btw?
"My sister is on vacation in Costa Rica right now. I hope she stays a while because she's a miserable cunt." -pubbanana
tyrant001
Profile Joined May 2009
Costa Rica14 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-19 20:10:19
May 19 2009 20:03 GMT
#23
On May 20 2009 04:41 SoulMarine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2009 00:37 ZeroCartin wrote:
On May 20 2009 00:29 choboPEon wrote:
i read all 7. here are my thoughts:

these comics dont really seem to have a point. they're as incoherent as a 4chan thread except they've got stick illustrations instead of image macros. is english not your first language? maybe try comics in spanish - smaller audience perhaps but i bet you know your way around the language.

i think i like the art work. theres a lot of potential in them. maybe try less stick figure and more full drawings - you seem to have the talent to go outside of the stick figure cliche.

epic/win/boobs/gay does not a funny comic make.

so, go the extra mile with the art - you obviously have potential.
and plan out a story with a beginning middle and end. this is not to say that all comics must be structured in such a plain way, but you should start there and work your way to more advanced concepts later.

or just stick with epic boobs, whatever.

Thx man

Yeah, its not our primary language, and we DO want to keep it kinda random * we like that sense of humor*. And stick figures is kinda like the style we are definetely keepin, so srry bout that

And about the story, we've been tryin to work on it more and more on each comic, trying to get it to flow better Thx for the c&c!


you pretty much took into consideration none of what he said. You basically sugar coated "well I don't like your ideas, i'm truckin' old school." and you say your'e open to c&c.

Also, I used to make signatures at NSL and criticism there is pretty hardcore.


Guys, in the first post, Zero asked for "constructive criticism".

comicnoobs.com is WHAT WE DO. We draw it in a "stick figures-style" and we want all comics to be about something "new and random".

Of course we will listen if you want to help us improve...examples that we have listen to so far: "improve the script!", or "I dont get the punchline, it needs to be BETTER"

But if someone comes and says "I dont like the style. You should change it." and "I dont like it to be random. Change it".

Then that's NOT being constructive. Thats like saying "I dont like stacraft, is 2D. Change it." and "I dont like it being an RTS. I want it to be ALL ACTION CLICK CLICK CLICK"

My thoughts on the subject.

Regards,

Leo
Papaya tanned boy
Mikilatov
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States3897 Posts
May 19 2009 20:08 GMT
#24
Hahaha, love the new one. Keep the humor level at or above what it is now, and the art/style/charm makes up for the rest!
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R3condite
Profile Joined August 2008
Korea (South)1541 Posts
May 19 2009 21:02 GMT
#25
On May 20 2009 00:29 choboPEon wrote:
i read all 7. here are my thoughts:

these comics dont really seem to have a point. they're as incoherent as a 4chan thread except they've got stick illustrations instead of image macros. is english not your first language? maybe try comics in spanish - smaller audience perhaps but i bet you know your way around the language.

i think i like the art work. theres a lot of potential in them. maybe try less stick figure and more full drawings - you seem to have the talent to go outside of the stick figure cliche.

epic/win/boobs/gay does not a funny comic make.

so, go the extra mile with the art - you obviously have potential.
and plan out a story with a beginning middle and end. this is not to say that all comics must be structured in such a plain way, but you should start there and work your way to more advanced concepts later.

or just stick with epic boobs, whatever.

but, i like it random

though i do agree that it might be BETTER if there was some sort of a plot going on
ggyo...
VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-19 21:55:36
May 19 2009 21:55 GMT
#26
Hey how long does it takes you guy to produce one comic strip of those? Excluding the time to come up with a script, I mean only the graphic part.
Great people talk about ideas. Average people talk about things. Small people talk about other people.
ZeroCartin
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2390 Posts
May 19 2009 22:50 GMT
#27
On May 20 2009 06:55 VIB wrote:
Hey how long does it takes you guy to produce one comic strip of those? Excluding the time to come up with a script, I mean only the graphic part.

Umm, about 4 hours, from sketch to lines, to shading to colors, to text layouting
"My sister is on vacation in Costa Rica right now. I hope she stays a while because she's a miserable cunt." -pubbanana
VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
May 19 2009 23:49 GMT
#28
That is interesting to know. I thought it took much longer.

One little suggestion that I would like to add: more starcraft comics. I'm sure many people would find it funny if it isn't in depth, just because it's something that is familiar to them. If you happen to have some knowledge of the sc pro-scene, I bet many of us would laugh at stuff like that. Like comic strips comparing Reach to Chuck Norris or mocking Savior for failing in 2009 could get you many comments from TL.net members.

Overall I don't think there is much else I could say. Your drawing style is awesome, but your scripts could use a little bit of more thought.
Great people talk about ideas. Average people talk about things. Small people talk about other people.
ZeroCartin
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2390 Posts
May 20 2009 02:02 GMT
#29
On May 20 2009 08:49 VIB wrote:
That is interesting to know. I thought it took much longer.

One little suggestion that I would like to add: more starcraft comics. I'm sure many people would find it funny if it isn't in depth, just because it's something that is familiar to them. If you happen to have some knowledge of the sc pro-scene, I bet many of us would laugh at stuff like that. Like comic strips comparing Reach to Chuck Norris or mocking Savior for failing in 2009 could get you many comments from TL.net members.

Overall I don't think there is much else I could say. Your drawing style is awesome, but your scripts could use a little bit of more thought.

Thx man ^__^

I am planning on putting more SC related comics, but I want to keep it as general audienced as possible, so not TOO much progamer reference *although I MIGHT just do something*

Thx for the input, much appreciated ^^
"My sister is on vacation in Costa Rica right now. I hope she stays a while because she's a miserable cunt." -pubbanana
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