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it in a program or u calc by hand?
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3 Lions
United States3705 Posts
I calc by hand 
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heh, you should make a program and mass a bunch of data to see if this legit
seems kinda interesting, and makes for precise liquibetting 
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The power ranking probably helps a lot. Like a lot a lot.
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thats interesting but it doesnt take into account that bisu was once a monster and is still a solid player while by.hero is still nobody.
also, the quality of opponents should matter as well but that would get even more complicated so i can see why you wouldnt go in so deeply
but its funny that you dont pull numbers completely out of your ass, which is what i thought u did
especially when u said fbh 49 tempest 51 but u thought fbh was gonna win
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On October 20 2008 11:51 ish0wstopper wrote:
thats interesting but it doesnt take into account that bisu was once a monster and is still a solid player while by.hero is still nobody.
also, the quality of opponents should matter as well but that would get even more complicated so i can see why you wouldnt go in so deeply
but its funny that you dont pull numbers completely out of your ass, which is what i thought u did
especially when u said fbh 49 tempest 51 but u thought fbh was gonna win
I think he does account for it with his own personal power rank, lifetime stats, and the last 10 games in that MU. Those three things are measures of how he sees their innate ability to win, how good they once (or are) were, and whether or not they're on a hot streak right now, respectively.
OP, could you post up a generalized formula of how you calculate stats rather than a specific example? It's unclear to me right now.
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That would be a lot of variables, but thanks for putting this up, it accounts for a lot of things!
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3 Lions
United States3705 Posts
On October 20 2008 12:10 thunk wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2008 11:51 ish0wstopper wrote:
thats interesting but it doesnt take into account that bisu was once a monster and is still a solid player while by.hero is still nobody.
also, the quality of opponents should matter as well but that would get even more complicated so i can see why you wouldnt go in so deeply
but its funny that you dont pull numbers completely out of your ass, which is what i thought u did
especially when u said fbh 49 tempest 51 but u thought fbh was gonna win I think he does account for it with his own personal power rank, lifetime stats, and the last 10 games in that MU. Those three things are measures of how he sees their innate ability to win, how good they once (or are) were, and whether or not they're on a hot streak right now, respectively. OP, could you post up a generalized formula of how you calculate stats rather than a specific example? It's unclear to me right now.
basically, it's (all the wins player1 has in the categories + all the losses of player2 in his categories)/(numerator) + (wins of player2 in categories + wins of player 1)
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some of the statistics are redundant, and inflate the numbers in favor of one player. If you have Player Z's Wins v Player X, you don't also need Player X's Losses v Player Z.
Also adding in the wins of both players in all categories as part of the denominator is kind of... stupid?
I don't know. It doesn't seem statistically sound, and I think you could put some more polish into it. It's a start though. The bonus is a very nice touch. Maybe to make it a uniform standardization, use KeSPA rankings?
EDIT: I didn't read that you just kind of made it up one day. I still stand by what I said, though.
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On October 21 2008 11:50 WorldCommunist8 wrote:
some of the statistics are redundant, and inflate the numbers in favor of one player. If you have Player Z's Wins v Player X, you don't also need Player X's Losses v Player Z.
Also adding in the wins of both players in all categories as part of the denominator is kind of... stupid?
I don't know. It doesn't seem statistically sound, and I think you could put some more polish into it. It's a start though. The bonus is a very nice touch. Maybe to make it a uniform standardization, use KeSPA rankings?
EDIT: I didn't read that you just kind of made it up one day. I still stand by what I said, though.
That doesn't seem redundant to me. Wins against your opponent should matter more than wins against somebody else. Adding your overall record to your record vs your opponent just means it's twice as important, seems reasonable.
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