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EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
September 06 2008 05:22 GMT
#1
So I decided to mess around with my roommate's guitar (me having played piano and violin), and wow, I think it is literally impossible for me to play guitar, like physically. I cannot reach the simple chords in Romance (u know that piece that every classical guitarist knows). I've tried just holding the position, 8th fret on 1st string and 5th on 2nd and 3rd, and I cannot. Like, I end up on the 7th fret rather than the 8th :-(, can't stretch finger to 8th. Am i fucked? :-(

Salv
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada3083 Posts
September 06 2008 05:24 GMT
#2
Fucked how? If you consider yourself fucked because you cannot play chords to Romance after messing around with a guitar, then yes you are I suppose, but that's a shitty definition.
blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
September 06 2008 05:26 GMT
#3
I wouldn't say so, that's a somewhat abnormal chord... you played violin so I don't think your hand position should be that much of a problem, so try to use what you know from violin
blabberrrrr
ahrara_
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Afghanistan1715 Posts
September 06 2008 05:26 GMT
#4
It takes lots of practice. No one can do that at first.
in Afghanistan we have 20% literacy rate
randomscrub
Profile Joined June 2008
Bulgaria44 Posts
September 06 2008 05:27 GMT
#5
i have extremely small hands and that chord sounds easy...

are you using your pinky like you are supposed to? you only use 2 fingers for that chord, the index holds down 2 strings and the pinky gets the one on the 8th fret
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
September 06 2008 05:42 GMT
#6
On September 06 2008 14:27 randomscrub wrote:
i have extremely small hands and that chord sounds easy...

are you using your pinky like you are supposed to? you only use 2 fingers for that chord, the index holds down 2 strings and the pinky gets the one on the 8th fret



Yea I am, but like, I can't stretch the pinky out to the 8th fret. It wont reach >.<?
benjammin
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2728 Posts
September 06 2008 05:42 GMT
#7
Er, it's 8-5-5-x-x-x? Or 8-5-5-5-x-x? I think that's Cmaj 4th position, just barré the fifth string with your index and strech the pinky to the 8th fret. You'll never reach the C note on the first string without a barré across the 5th fret. Incidentally, that chord is part of the intro to "Stairway to Heaven."
wash uffitizi, drive me to firenze
benjammin
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2728 Posts
September 06 2008 05:48 GMT
#8
As a drill, on the 1st string only just use your first finger (index) to play the A note at the 5th fret, use your middle finger to play A#/Bflat at 6th, your ring finger to play the B at 7th, and finally the pinky to play the C at the 8th fret. Don't take any of your fingers off while doing it and you should feel comfortable.
wash uffitizi, drive me to firenze
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
September 06 2008 06:35 GMT
#9
On September 06 2008 14:42 EtherealDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2008 14:27 randomscrub wrote:
i have extremely small hands and that chord sounds easy...

are you using your pinky like you are supposed to? you only use 2 fingers for that chord, the index holds down 2 strings and the pinky gets the one on the 8th fret



Yea I am, but like, I can't stretch the pinky out to the 8th fret. It wont reach >.

so move your hand and stretch the other fingers -_-
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
September 06 2008 07:06 GMT
#10
On September 06 2008 15:35 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2008 14:42 EtherealDeath wrote:
On September 06 2008 14:27 randomscrub wrote:
i have extremely small hands and that chord sounds easy...

are you using your pinky like you are supposed to? you only use 2 fingers for that chord, the index holds down 2 strings and the pinky gets the one on the 8th fret



Yea I am, but like, I can't stretch the pinky out to the 8th fret. It wont reach >.<?


so move your hand and stretch the other fingers -_-



By this i included that. As in my max stretching out fails to cover the distance. Small hand ftl :-(

Very well reflected in my SC as well, i only use 1-5 hotkeys.
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
September 06 2008 07:13 GMT
#11
On September 06 2008 14:26 ahrara_ wrote:
It takes lots of practice. No one can do that at first.

JESUS CAN!
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
404.Nintu
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1723 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-06 07:23:42
September 06 2008 07:21 GMT
#12
Edit: I didn't read it as much as I should have. I thought it was just akward for your hands, I didn't think you mean physically small hands. In the sense of having small hands, you're kinda fucked... But Yngwie Malmsteen has small hands.. So do a few other shredders. So it's obviously not that big of an issue. There are alternative chord shapes for every chord.

Also, if you're young, your hands might still grow?

+ Show Spoiler +

I remember my first day trying to play guitar. I couldn't make my fingers go where I wanted to. It just feels akward, and you have to physically move your fingers with your other hand to put them in the right place.

It's sorta like making the Vulcan sign with your hand. Connecting your 1st and 2nd finger, your 3rd and 4th finger, and separating them to make a V. Feels akward the first time you try, and now it's dead simple.

There's a lot of muscle memory and junk that goes on. I couldn't do a G chord, C chord, etc.. I just couldn't move my fingers at all. Bar chords were literally impossible for me.

Few years later, I can do it without realizing it. I'm a pretty good guitar player now, can easily play a lot of shred. So just because the first little while is akward as fuck, doesn't mean your fucked at all. I was so desperate once I actually e-mailed Paul Gilbert and asked him if I was "Screwed" because my fingers weren't acting normally. ...

so I understand the fear and the akwardness. It's just practice, familiarization, etc.. It's not uncomfortable in the slightest to fret chords now. It really becomes 100% natural.
"So, then did the American yum-yum clown monkey also represent the FCC?"
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-06 07:25:45
September 06 2008 07:25 GMT
#13
Hopefully that is the case Nintu. Just I have been o.O?ing cause its not moving my fingers that is the issue, they move fine, its like pizzicato on violin sort of. Its just feeling like trying to do a 10th on the piano (I can't reach that far, can barely do a 9th, and thats only through the halfassed method of playing under the keys). hmm maybe I will play left handed. My fingers are rather longer on my right hand o.O (I'm ambi to an extent so I hope adjusting wont be too much of an issue).

EDIT: am 19, don't think they will grow much more :-(
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
September 06 2008 07:26 GMT
#14
Who knows, maybe I will just play it in some strange nonstandard fashion. Tis what I do with all the Chopin/Liszt pieces. Hands too small to play the normal standard way :-(
Pholon
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Netherlands6142 Posts
September 06 2008 07:56 GMT
#15
If all else fails just drop it to D and you'll be able to play every Manowar song without even practising.
Moderator@TLPholon // "I need a third hand to facepalm right now"
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-06 09:46:53
September 06 2008 09:44 GMT
#16
look at this

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are you trying to hold the 2nd and 3rd strings on the fifth fret with your index and middle fingers like in the first diagram? because you should be holding your index finger across the fifth fret of all three and holding the 8th fret on the first string with your pinky like in the second diagram
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
boesthius
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States11637 Posts
September 06 2008 09:53 GMT
#17
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JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
September 06 2008 11:23 GMT
#18
thats not even a stretch, its only from covering 4 frets, that should be simple even if you havent practised ever / have small hands. the only thing i can think of is that you arent barring the 5th frets with ur index
HEY MEYT
skyglow1
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
New Zealand3962 Posts
September 06 2008 11:27 GMT
#19
Yeah I play violin too then tried some stuff on the guitar and I cannot for my life do the comparatively awkward stretches and hand positions for guitar. On violin can you reach a tenth in first position? Like maybe first finger for A on the G string, then fourth finger for C on the D string. I can only barely reach this on violin and theres pretty much never a need to stretch that much, but it feels like so much stuff in guitar requires stretches that are crazier than that.
yubee
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States3826 Posts
September 06 2008 11:34 GMT
#20
don't cop out and just say small hands, you just have to practice stretching them. i couldn't stretch from 5-8 when i first started playing and now if i needed to i could hit 5-10 easily
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