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I am not happy with the gaming industry

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UmmTheHobo
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States650 Posts
July 25 2008 21:05 GMT
#1
Whenever I think about the gaming industry I become unhappy. So many horrid companies like Bethesda and EA. Do they even care about making good games? Or do they just want money? It makes me sad. Even nintendo is making less quality games, I used to love nintendo D:

Was I just naive when I was younger, or did companies actually care?

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Monokeros
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States2493 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-25 21:08:25
July 25 2008 21:07 GMT
#2
both.

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What you want more of an answer?


Both, for reals.

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DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
July 25 2008 21:24 GMT
#3
Well good game are what? Name some? They are trying to make games that appeal to the market which is how they judge 'good'
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Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-25 21:33:38
July 25 2008 21:31 GMT
#4
How about you stop buying games you think suck... Or make your own games?

I don't understand what you're complaining about... As long as StarCraft exists, I'm content. I've liked every Mario and Zelda game I ever played, except maybe TWW... There's random shoot em up Bond games that are always cool, the Final Fantasy series is usually okay... You get odd gems like Body Harvest and Eternal Darkness too... Super Smash Brothers and Mario Kart are good games to play with a bunch of people... Half Life has always been considered a good series...

I don't know what you're talking about really... If a game is bad, don't buy it and let the company lose money on it... It's their prerogative to make games that are good, because if logic serves me, that's what sells.
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Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
July 25 2008 21:36 GMT
#5
On July 26 2008 06:05 UmmTheHobo wrote:
Whenever I think about the gaming industry I become unhappy. So many horrid companies like Bethesda and EA. Do they even care about making good games? Or do they just want money? It makes me sad. Even nintendo is making less quality games, I used to love nintendo D:

Was I just naive when I was younger, or did companies actually care?


a game is bad --> don't buy it

bethesda used to make good games... morrowind was awesome.
UNFUCK YOURSELF
DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
July 25 2008 21:37 GMT
#6
On July 26 2008 06:31 PsycHOTemplar wrote:
How about you stop buying games you think suck... Or make your own games?

I don't understand what you're complaining about... As long as StarCraft exists, I'm content. I've liked every Mario and Zelda game I ever played, except maybe TWW... There's random shoot em up Bond games that are always cool, the Final Fantasy series is usually okay... You get odd gems like Body Harvest and Eternal Darkness too... Super Smash Brothers and Mario Kart are good games to play with a bunch of people... Half Life has always been considered a good series...

I don't know what you're talking about really... If a game is bad, don't buy it and let the company lose money on it... It's their prerogative to make games that are good, because if logic serves me, that's what sells.

Agh why do people say the exact same things as me but more intelligently
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Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
July 25 2008 21:42 GMT
#7
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MrRammstein
Profile Joined May 2008
Poland339 Posts
July 25 2008 21:50 GMT
#8
Or maybe you want something not seen yet?
account abandoned:P RIP
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
July 25 2008 21:59 GMT
#9
Why would a business want to make a good game if it won't sell as good as Generic Rehash 4?

It's a market. They are only concerned with money.
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Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8145 Posts
July 25 2008 22:05 GMT
#10
TBH I think EA is one of the best game publishers around lately. They have changed CEOs and are a completely different company than what they were in 2004. They have the largest set of high-profile games from any publisher (including left 4 dead, dead space, mirrors edge, rock band 2, and mercenaries 2). While it's true they still crank out the yearly NFL/NEEDFORSPEED/NBA/MLB/TIGER WOODS/15 other sports games, they are really leading the way in publisher responsibility of creativity, pushing for more and more original IPs every year.

In today's industry it is more and more expensive to make games, and very very very few developers have complete creative and distributive freedom (being able to say "it's done when it's done) such as Blizzard, Valve, and id. While publishers like EA, Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo still push for creativity, they still have deadlines they need to enforce. And while I think it's still bad a lot of times (games getting released very buggy or just being a bad uncreative game), it is getting better.

Actually I've noticed that it's the smaller publishers that are needing to rush out games more and more compared to the giants (EA/Activision), as they cannot afford to delay games as much as the bigger guys. It's sad that probably this time next console generation, there will only be about half as many publishers, but that's just the way businesses like this work out.
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Fr33t
Profile Joined June 2008
United States1128 Posts
July 25 2008 22:40 GMT
#11
EA is certainly taking its fucking time with releasing BF3 -_- One of the main things I am most unhappy with the gaming industry about is the dwindling amount of focus they are putting into developing PC games. It's always console games first now, games that are awesome and fun for 2 weeks and die out a month later. There's much more money to be made in console games though so why wouldn't they focus on them? Very sucky situation for a PC gamer.
"Wow you could literally transport Lomo's face to a girl and the result would be pretty deceptive."
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8145 Posts
July 26 2008 00:12 GMT
#12
On July 26 2008 07:40 Fr33t wrote:
EA is certainly taking its fucking time with releasing BF3 -_- One of the main things I am most unhappy with the gaming industry about is the dwindling amount of focus they are putting into developing PC games. It's always console games first now, games that are awesome and fun for 2 weeks and die out a month later. There's much more money to be made in console games though so why wouldn't they focus on them? Very sucky situation for a PC gamer.



I would say that about 99% of games (regardless of platform) die out very soon. Only a very few last a long time (SC, CS, WoW). Part of the problem with PC games is that more and more people are okay with playing FPSs on consoles, and that the PC market is not nearly as big as the consoles any more (what with the "high price" of buying a gaming PC). Not to mention that already in this small market, pirating is rampant (I even remember reading an old thread from this site where people debated whether or not to pirate Bioshock).

Pirating above all else has made PC gaming the pathetic essence that it is today. Because of it, essentially all developers have gone console-first multi-platform development (besides Blizzard). It's a goddamned shame, but I don't really expect any more major AAA PC-only games to be released outside Blizzard ever again (I think Crysis is the last one).

At least Valve still makes their games PC-first I guess.
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teh.pwnerer
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Canada110 Posts
July 26 2008 01:37 GMT
#13
The gaming industry makes me sad as well, aside from Starcraft. I was a huge fan of Halo on Xbox, but Halo 2 (and later, 3) were complete shit comparatively. Screw the graphics, I'm talking about the core gameplay that purposely caters to noobs.

Same thing for Super Smash Bros Brawl imo.
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Goosey
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States695 Posts
July 26 2008 02:01 GMT
#14
Emo -_-
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