• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 02:34
CEST 08:34
KST 15:34
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Maestros of the Game: Week 1/Play-in Preview9[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt2: Take-Off7[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt1: Runway132v2 & SC: Evo Complete: Weekend Double Feature4Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy9
Community News
Weekly Cups (August 25-31): Clem's Last Straw?25Weekly Cups (Aug 18-24): herO dethrones MaxPax6Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris46Weekly Cups (Aug 11-17): MaxPax triples again!15Weekly Cups (Aug 4-10): MaxPax wins a triple6
StarCraft 2
General
Speculation of future Wardii series Weekly Cups (August 25-31): Clem's Last Straw? Geoff 'iNcontroL' Robinson has passed away #1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time Maestros of the Game: Week 1/Play-in Preview
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris Monday Nights Weeklies LiuLi Cup - September 2025 Tournaments 🏆 GTL Season 2 – StarCraft II Team League
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 489 Bannable Offense Mutation # 488 What Goes Around Mutation # 487 Think Fast Mutation # 486 Watch the Skies
Brood War
General
No Rain in ASL20? ASL20 General Discussion BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Starcraft at lower levels TvP
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Is there English video for group selection for ASL [ASL20] Ro24 Group F [IPSL] CSLAN Review and CSLPRO Reimagined!
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Nintendo Switch Thread Mechabellum Teeworlds - online game
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread High temperatures on bridge(s) Gtx660 graphics card replacement
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale
Blogs
A very expensive lesson on ma…
Garnet
hello world
radishsoup
Lemme tell you a thing o…
JoinTheRain
How Culture and Conflict Imp…
TrAiDoS
RTS Design in Hypercoven
a11
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
INDEPENDIENTE LA CTM
XenOsky
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 694 users

I am not happy with the gaming industry

Blogs > UmmTheHobo
Post a Reply
UmmTheHobo
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States650 Posts
July 25 2008 21:05 GMT
#1
Whenever I think about the gaming industry I become unhappy. So many horrid companies like Bethesda and EA. Do they even care about making good games? Or do they just want money? It makes me sad. Even nintendo is making less quality games, I used to love nintendo D:

Was I just naive when I was younger, or did companies actually care?

...
Monokeros
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States2493 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-25 21:08:25
July 25 2008 21:07 GMT
#2
both.

...



What you want more of an answer?


Both, for reals.

Keep the Dream Alive twitch.tv/monokerros
DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
July 25 2008 21:24 GMT
#3
Well good game are what? Name some? They are trying to make games that appeal to the market which is how they judge 'good'
Liquid | SKT
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-25 21:33:38
July 25 2008 21:31 GMT
#4
How about you stop buying games you think suck... Or make your own games?

I don't understand what you're complaining about... As long as StarCraft exists, I'm content. I've liked every Mario and Zelda game I ever played, except maybe TWW... There's random shoot em up Bond games that are always cool, the Final Fantasy series is usually okay... You get odd gems like Body Harvest and Eternal Darkness too... Super Smash Brothers and Mario Kart are good games to play with a bunch of people... Half Life has always been considered a good series...

I don't know what you're talking about really... If a game is bad, don't buy it and let the company lose money on it... It's their prerogative to make games that are good, because if logic serves me, that's what sells.
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
July 25 2008 21:36 GMT
#5
On July 26 2008 06:05 UmmTheHobo wrote:
Whenever I think about the gaming industry I become unhappy. So many horrid companies like Bethesda and EA. Do they even care about making good games? Or do they just want money? It makes me sad. Even nintendo is making less quality games, I used to love nintendo D:

Was I just naive when I was younger, or did companies actually care?


a game is bad --> don't buy it

bethesda used to make good games... morrowind was awesome.
UNFUCK YOURSELF
DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
July 25 2008 21:37 GMT
#6
On July 26 2008 06:31 PsycHOTemplar wrote:
How about you stop buying games you think suck... Or make your own games?

I don't understand what you're complaining about... As long as StarCraft exists, I'm content. I've liked every Mario and Zelda game I ever played, except maybe TWW... There's random shoot em up Bond games that are always cool, the Final Fantasy series is usually okay... You get odd gems like Body Harvest and Eternal Darkness too... Super Smash Brothers and Mario Kart are good games to play with a bunch of people... Half Life has always been considered a good series...

I don't know what you're talking about really... If a game is bad, don't buy it and let the company lose money on it... It's their prerogative to make games that are good, because if logic serves me, that's what sells.

Agh why do people say the exact same things as me but more intelligently
Liquid | SKT
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
July 25 2008 21:42 GMT
#7
[image loading] It's a mystery!
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
MrRammstein
Profile Joined May 2008
Poland339 Posts
July 25 2008 21:50 GMT
#8
Or maybe you want something not seen yet?
account abandoned:P RIP
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
July 25 2008 21:59 GMT
#9
Why would a business want to make a good game if it won't sell as good as Generic Rehash 4?

It's a market. They are only concerned with money.
RIP Aaliyah
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8113 Posts
July 25 2008 22:05 GMT
#10
TBH I think EA is one of the best game publishers around lately. They have changed CEOs and are a completely different company than what they were in 2004. They have the largest set of high-profile games from any publisher (including left 4 dead, dead space, mirrors edge, rock band 2, and mercenaries 2). While it's true they still crank out the yearly NFL/NEEDFORSPEED/NBA/MLB/TIGER WOODS/15 other sports games, they are really leading the way in publisher responsibility of creativity, pushing for more and more original IPs every year.

In today's industry it is more and more expensive to make games, and very very very few developers have complete creative and distributive freedom (being able to say "it's done when it's done) such as Blizzard, Valve, and id. While publishers like EA, Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo still push for creativity, they still have deadlines they need to enforce. And while I think it's still bad a lot of times (games getting released very buggy or just being a bad uncreative game), it is getting better.

Actually I've noticed that it's the smaller publishers that are needing to rush out games more and more compared to the giants (EA/Activision), as they cannot afford to delay games as much as the bigger guys. It's sad that probably this time next console generation, there will only be about half as many publishers, but that's just the way businesses like this work out.
Free Palestine
Fr33t
Profile Joined June 2008
United States1128 Posts
July 25 2008 22:40 GMT
#11
EA is certainly taking its fucking time with releasing BF3 -_- One of the main things I am most unhappy with the gaming industry about is the dwindling amount of focus they are putting into developing PC games. It's always console games first now, games that are awesome and fun for 2 weeks and die out a month later. There's much more money to be made in console games though so why wouldn't they focus on them? Very sucky situation for a PC gamer.
"Wow you could literally transport Lomo's face to a girl and the result would be pretty deceptive."
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8113 Posts
July 26 2008 00:12 GMT
#12
On July 26 2008 07:40 Fr33t wrote:
EA is certainly taking its fucking time with releasing BF3 -_- One of the main things I am most unhappy with the gaming industry about is the dwindling amount of focus they are putting into developing PC games. It's always console games first now, games that are awesome and fun for 2 weeks and die out a month later. There's much more money to be made in console games though so why wouldn't they focus on them? Very sucky situation for a PC gamer.



I would say that about 99% of games (regardless of platform) die out very soon. Only a very few last a long time (SC, CS, WoW). Part of the problem with PC games is that more and more people are okay with playing FPSs on consoles, and that the PC market is not nearly as big as the consoles any more (what with the "high price" of buying a gaming PC). Not to mention that already in this small market, pirating is rampant (I even remember reading an old thread from this site where people debated whether or not to pirate Bioshock).

Pirating above all else has made PC gaming the pathetic essence that it is today. Because of it, essentially all developers have gone console-first multi-platform development (besides Blizzard). It's a goddamned shame, but I don't really expect any more major AAA PC-only games to be released outside Blizzard ever again (I think Crysis is the last one).

At least Valve still makes their games PC-first I guess.
Free Palestine
teh.pwnerer
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Canada110 Posts
July 26 2008 01:37 GMT
#13
The gaming industry makes me sad as well, aside from Starcraft. I was a huge fan of Halo on Xbox, but Halo 2 (and later, 3) were complete shit comparatively. Screw the graphics, I'm talking about the core gameplay that purposely caters to noobs.

Same thing for Super Smash Bros Brawl imo.
Mass Dark Archons FTW
Goosey
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States695 Posts
July 26 2008 02:01 GMT
#14
Emo -_-
#1 Shuttle Fan.
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
PiGosaur Monday
00:00
#47
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ProTech68
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 10360
Mind 358
Tasteless 249
yabsab 200
ggaemo 173
sSak 172
Snow 152
actioN 124
Aegong 39
Bale 9
[ Show more ]
Purpose 7
Icarus 5
League of Legends
C9.Mang0402
Counter-Strike
m0e_tv1564
Stewie2K684
Other Games
summit1g5900
shahzam640
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick589
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• OhrlRock 28
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Rush1236
• Stunt391
• HappyZerGling57
Upcoming Events
LiuLi Cup
4h 26m
Replay Cast
17h 26m
The PondCast
1d 3h
RSL Revival
1d 3h
Maru vs SHIN
MaNa vs MaxPax
Maestros of the Game
1d 10h
OSC
1d 20h
MaNa vs SHIN
SKillous vs ShoWTimE
Bunny vs TBD
Cham vs TBD
RSL Revival
2 days
Reynor vs Astrea
Classic vs sOs
Maestros of the Game
2 days
BSL Team Wars
2 days
Team Bonyth vs Team Dewalt
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
3 days
GuMiho vs Cham
ByuN vs TriGGeR
Cosmonarchy
3 days
TriGGeR vs YoungYakov
YoungYakov vs HonMonO
HonMonO vs TriGGeR
Maestros of the Game
3 days
[BSL 2025] Weekly
3 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Cure vs Bunny
Creator vs Zoun
Maestros of the Game
4 days
BSL Team Wars
4 days
Team Hawk vs Team Sziky
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Season 18: Qualifier 2
SEL Season 2 Championship
HCC Europe

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
Maestros of the Game
Sisters' Call Cup
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025

Upcoming

LASL Season 20
2025 Chongqing Offline CUP
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup #2
RSL Revival: Season 2
EC S1
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
Skyesports Masters 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.