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randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
April 25 2008 22:09 GMT
#1
FUCK! I'm 0-10 or something to the same damn build. I Just cant TvP longinus for shIIIT.

Same build from toss all the time. 2 gate range goon pressure. If they gas steal its almost instant gg even if I try to Bunk + marine range. If not they can pylon the factory and tanks come out late enough they can kill the wall and get in and pick off the tank easy as hell. FUCK this is annoying.

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clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
April 25 2008 22:13 GMT
#2
Post a replay or something.

Usually, I can handle the 2 gate goon pressure. Even though I don't play P, I get 1 fact -> siege with 5-6 marines and I'm usually ok. o.o
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SayaSP
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Laos5494 Posts
April 25 2008 22:14 GMT
#3
I am confident that you shall get through it somehow.

o( ^_^)b I believe!
[iHs]SSP | I-NO-KI BOM-BA-YE | のヮの http://tinyurl.com/MLIStheCV , MLIS.
clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
April 25 2008 22:17 GMT
#4
On April 26 2008 07:14 SayaSP wrote:
I am confident that you shall get through it somehow.

o( ^_^)b I believe!


Me too ^^v
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randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-25 22:25:22
April 25 2008 22:24 GMT
#5
On April 26 2008 07:13 clazziquai wrote:
Post a replay or something.

Usually, I can handle the 2 gate goon pressure. Even though I don't play P, I get 1 fact -> siege with 5-6 marines and I'm usually ok. o.o


I do the same thing, but if the probe harrases they have goons breaking down you wall b4 your tank is out/able to drive them away. And once the wall breaks that tank dies in like 2 seconds

Another thing that I hate about longinus is how a 3pylon wall + cannon which is not harrassable by vults and they have 4 gases/3(4) mineral patches which they can simply out macro you.
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
April 25 2008 22:45 GMT
#6


HotBid beat me like that once
ㅋㄲㅈㅁ
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
April 25 2008 23:03 GMT
#7
work on your build timing

if he tries to stop you from building your factory, send out two and feint with one.

you should have marines well before your shop is up, so you should be able to stop him from pyloning your factory. If he does anything like that, just queue up some marines
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
April 25 2008 23:21 GMT
#8
I usually get to place my factory, But if he pylons where the machine shop goes I have to lift-move-build, Once I lift he can cancel the pylon. All this gives him like 5 more seconds where my tank is slowed, problem is tanks normally come out after range goons any ways, so any slower and he has his 2 back ups making it 5 goons vs wall which dies then 5 goons vs tank + marines which gets owned.
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
April 25 2008 23:38 GMT
#9
go protoss powah.
BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-26 00:06:24
April 26 2008 00:05 GMT
#10
Post replay. Longinus is T>P by stats afaik. (well, for TLPD it's actually equal)
You want 20 good men, but you need a bad pussy.
Jerebread
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada115 Posts
April 26 2008 00:28 GMT
#11
Don't sweat it, even FBH loses to that ( see B.net attack )

I guess the only thing you can do is work on your build timing, fastest factory possible.

Also, you gotta have 2-3 scvs at your bunker ready to repair right? =P

good luck =)
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
April 26 2008 00:33 GMT
#12
In my years playing Starcraft, playing TvP on Longi ranks among the toughest things in the game...
Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
April 26 2008 01:11 GMT
#13
On April 26 2008 09:33 LuckyFool wrote:
In my years playing Starcraft, playing TvP on Longi ranks among the toughest things in the game...


I think Katrina may also be a hard map for TvP, but not now due to Flash's sexy build.

Yes, I play Protoss and I admitted a TvP build was sexy. Hang me
^-^
Xeofreestyler
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Belgium6774 Posts
April 26 2008 01:25 GMT
#14
Anyone remember that oov vs much game?

JUST BELIEVE!
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Zalfor
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States1035 Posts
April 26 2008 01:26 GMT
#15
dont try to wall at ur nat, wall at ur choke. if u do a 11 gas/rax, u should be able to repair ur "wall" and get a tank out in time to push out. Play a macro game from there after a fast expo. (or if ur good, go dropship and mines with vults).

but don't try later factories, because then they can harass the shit out of u with 2 gate goons. i usually get my first factory at 16 just to get the tank out faster.
555, kthxbai
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
April 26 2008 01:27 GMT
#16
On April 26 2008 10:11 Equinox_kr wrote:
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On April 26 2008 09:33 LuckyFool wrote:
In my years playing Starcraft, playing TvP on Longi ranks among the toughest things in the game...


I think Katrina may also be a hard map for TvP, but not now due to Flash's sexy build.

Yes, I play Protoss and I admitted a TvP build was sexy. Hang me


its still a massively hard map, its just 2base carrier doesnt work against flash's build and a bunch of protoss players apparently arent clever enough to do anything else
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
mousey.rr
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States103 Posts
April 26 2008 02:48 GMT
#17
go for fast mines instead of tank first. or just make more rines
Night[Mare
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Mexico4793 Posts
April 26 2008 03:04 GMT
#18
I KNOW YOU'RE MAFIOSO, CONFESS NOW
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MeriaDoKk
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Chile1726 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-26 03:35:08
April 26 2008 03:34 GMT
#19
maybe 6 marines+ tank+ vult and mines... but we all know TvP is imba, today i had a guy who build 3 pylons in my base and 3 gateways :S

p.s: gay race
clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
April 26 2008 03:42 GMT
#20
On April 26 2008 12:04 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:
I KNOW YOU'RE MAFIOSO, CONFESS NOW


Too obsessed with Mafia hahah
#1 Sea.Really Fan / #1 Nesh Fan / Terran Forever~
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
April 26 2008 04:01 GMT
#21
I've never had any success dragoon pressuring on Longinus.
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