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Injection and the missing larvae ?

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RaiZ
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
2813 Posts
September 09 2013 03:57 GMT
#1
Hello,
First, no, it's not another thread about how getting the fastest method of injection or whatever.

Now that I've mentioned it, what I had in mind is that I've read somewhere in this forum that there was some missing larvaes or that there was a slight bug about the larvaes not coming out consistently when you had perfect injects (read : queen ready to inject even though it has 23 energy only and the larvaes coming out, and that you managed to not get more than 3 larvaes idling near your hatch).
I mean, sometime you'd get only 6 larvaes instead of 7 or something per cycle of injection...

I wanted to know if the thread still exists or has the bug been corrected since then ?

I feel that this is kinda important for me especially in ZvZ's lings fight as having one more larvae would get you an advantage because of this method.

Couldn't find the specific thread in the search. Would be greatly appreciated if someone more knowledgeable than me could correct me if I'm wrong.

Peace

Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth. Oscar Wilde
FakeDouble
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia676 Posts
September 09 2013 04:54 GMT
#2
Could you clarify whether it was 3 idle larvae, inject pops, giving you +3 larvae (instead of intended +4) or whether it was 2 idle larvae, inject pops, giving you +4 larvae for total of 6?

In the absence of injects, you get up to 3 larvae generated by the hatchery. If the hatchery ever gets 3 or more larvae, it stops generating larvae one at a time. If for whatever reason you used a larvae to make an overlord or whatever, you may not have 3 larvae pre-pop, and the hatch stops making larvae naturally. Are you sure it wasn't this?

Do you have a replay or video showing this? I wasn't aware of this. I thought the bug was related to some other issue.
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Natolumin
Profile Joined July 2011
France72 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-09 06:18:02
September 09 2013 06:11 GMT
#3
I think you're thinking of this topic.

You should probably test whether the bug is still relevant with version 2.X (HoTS), since the post is quite old now.
MarlieChurphy
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States2063 Posts
September 09 2013 09:57 GMT
#4
On September 09 2013 15:11 Natolumin wrote:
I think you're thinking of this topic.

You should probably test whether the bug is still relevant with version 2.X (HoTS), since the post is quite old now.


Yes, essentially what that thread is about is that a hatch normally spawns 3 larva max, when the 3rd larva happens to try and spawn exactly when your spawn larva pops off you get robbed of a larva. I'm not sure but that may be the reason as to why the spawn larva actually activates before the queen has 25 energy to cast another injection. I've always wondered why the timer was off that slight bit, I wonder if anyone has ever brought it to the attention of blizzard. Maybe they simply can't fix it due to the way energy timers and game seconds fit together.
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RaiZ
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
2813 Posts
September 09 2013 16:09 GMT
#5
On September 09 2013 15:11 Natolumin wrote:
I think you're thinking of this topic.

You should probably test whether the bug is still relevant with version 2.X (HoTS), since the post is quite old now.

Yes this is exactly the thread I was looking for ! How did you make the search for this thread ? Anyway Thank you.

And lol @ your anagram Charlie
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth. Oscar Wilde
Natolumin
Profile Joined July 2011
France72 Posts
September 09 2013 21:37 GMT
#6
On September 10 2013 01:09 RaiZ wrote:
Yes this is exactly the thread I was looking for ! How did you make the search for this thread ?


It's not really about how I searched for it, it's that I actually remembered the thread and that its name had something about a "20th larva" in it, so I searched for exactly that : "20th larva"
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