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coolcor
Profile Joined February 2011
520 Posts
August 31 2012 00:00 GMT
#221
I was wondering if Totalbiscuit and Diamond could team up and merge the esv and shoutcraft tournaments into a big regular online tournament for Korea. Diamond has lots of experience with running tournaments in the Korean scene and TB can bring in lots more viewers and money than esv could by casting the quarterfinals and up as if it was a shoutcraft invitational. I think it would be cool to try at least.

Not sure what TB and boss could do together though Im sure if they did work together they'd do something awesome.
Clarityxo
Profile Joined April 2011
Scotland174 Posts
August 31 2012 00:17 GMT
#222
Totalbiscuit, you are an incredible human being. I love what you're doing.
VediVeci
Profile Joined October 2011
United States82 Posts
August 31 2012 00:18 GMT
#223
On August 31 2012 07:50 BlueFlames wrote:
Well if FXOboss and TotalBiscuit could pull their own heads out of their own asses for a second, they might realize that they might work together to make the korean sc2 scene a better place. Both of you dont seem to realize how nicely you could help each other out. You could work together on a seperate project, that would benefit the whole scene (with your combined expertises), but you wont, because you have enough to do with your regular scedules. You will both persue your own interests and this whole debate in this topic is just a waste of space.

I dont doubt for a second that both of you have the noblest intentions concerning the sc2 esports-scene (korea in this matter), but both of you wont cooperate. Which would make this discussion a little bit meaningfull.
Both of you can state your points all day long. Boss you do that often enough in your blog, and you dont seem to have the intention of beeing a creative force that changes things, and tb, well he is just a nerd that wants to help the scene grow and if it makes him money, thats a bonus.

Both of you are very outspoken and both of you dont seem to go the last step to really make me believe in you. I might have gotten this all wrong, but if you two are really interested in helping the korean sc2 scene, than why dont you two work together and try to make it better? I guess both of you rather point out the differences between you two , than to do anything like that. Rather point out what is difficult, than try to change anything.

You two speak like you could change something in a meaningfull way, but both of you dont seem to be able to forget your own ego and maybe help things along.

Sorry for that rant. I am a little bit drunk and if my words are confusing, well i am confused enough.
@ fxoBoss stop talking, start doing
@ TB stop validating with other people, start doing. +
@ Both start working together and forget your inflated egos.


It's remarkably arrogant for you to come in here and lecture these two professionals on how they should do their job. Since both their incomes rely on e-Sports, you can bet your ass they want e-sports to succeed. You think if it was as easy as your drunken self thinks it is, they wouldn't have already done it?
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
August 31 2012 00:29 GMT
#224
I'd like to thank both TB and BoSs for their contribution to the community on these forums, it's always a pleasure to read your insights. (and i'm mad jelly at BoSs but whatever XD)
Zest fanboy.
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
August 31 2012 00:30 GMT
#225
FXOboss's globalization is the endpoint that we're all trying to get to.
But it has to first be mobilized by people like TB, we don't all have a forex company sponsoring us...

I applaud TotalBiscuit for his grassroots movement.
Things can get done if there's a rally cry for it.
And we all know how big TB's voice is...this whole thread is one hell of a rally cry.

Thanks again.
You have my support,
In writing and in dollars and cents.
moo...for DRG
Anomarad
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada565 Posts
August 31 2012 01:16 GMT
#226
On August 30 2012 22:16 LuckyFool wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 05:26 Anomarad wrote:
On August 29 2012 01:33 LuckyFool wrote:
Sc2 still just isn't that popular in Korea compared to bw.

Just look at GSL live events/finals. They don't even nearly compare to bw finals which in their peak were exceeding over 100k live audiences. If I were a sponsor getting involved in something that just isn't popular in my country seems so risky. Not sure how or if it will change, bw fans are being force fed Sc2 now with the removal/switch of OSL and Proleague to SC2 but it remains to be seen if they will actually make the switch or just jump ship.


Fixed for you.


there was never 100k person live audience what are you talking about lol.

I'm talking about people attending live not watching TV or online.


"120 thousand audience, Busan Gwangalli beach"

http://www.e-sports.or.kr/about/Eng/history.kea?m_Code=about_30&hYear=2005

Laxx
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia61 Posts
August 31 2012 01:19 GMT
#227
On August 31 2012 07:50 BlueFlames wrote:
Both of you are very outspoken and both of you dont seem to go the last step to really make me believe in you. I might have gotten this all wrong, but if you two are really interested in helping the korean sc2 scene, than why dont you two work together and try to make it better? I guess both of you rather point out the differences between you two , than to do anything like that. Rather point out what is difficult, than try to change anything.


BoSs funds an entire Korean team. If we're putting a charitable spin on things and talking about helping out the Korean scene, I'd say he's done his fair share, wouldn't you?
Head of Marketing // Quantic Gaming // @LaxxSC
Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
August 31 2012 01:19 GMT
#228
On August 31 2012 10:16 Anomarad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2012 22:16 LuckyFool wrote:
On August 29 2012 05:26 Anomarad wrote:
On August 29 2012 01:33 LuckyFool wrote:
Sc2 still just isn't that popular in Korea compared to bw.

Just look at GSL live events/finals. They don't even nearly compare to bw finals which in their peak were exceeding over 100k live audiences. If I were a sponsor getting involved in something that just isn't popular in my country seems so risky. Not sure how or if it will change, bw fans are being force fed Sc2 now with the removal/switch of OSL and Proleague to SC2 but it remains to be seen if they will actually make the switch or just jump ship.


Fixed for you.


there was never 100k person live audience what are you talking about lol.

I'm talking about people attending live not watching TV or online.


"120 thousand audience, Busan Gwangalli beach"

http://www.e-sports.or.kr/about/Eng/history.kea?m_Code=about_30&hYear=2005


So much for the afterglow...

I'm honestly curious as to the uptake among SKorean audiences of SC2. Is it as big? Half as big? Only a quarter?
Что?
Tanksenior
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands26 Posts
September 01 2012 01:18 GMT
#229
Awesome initiative TB. You have my support and I'll be watching the next Shoutcraft invitational for sure!
Zojukanji
Profile Joined June 2011
China393 Posts
September 03 2012 22:06 GMT
#230
I think you are doing a great job TB!!!
do it!
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-03 22:31:02
September 03 2012 22:30 GMT
#231
Why is the last bit talking about SC1? SC1 teams have sponsers... i'm confused is it a typo?
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
RenSC2
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States1057 Posts
September 04 2012 00:08 GMT
#232
On September 04 2012 07:30 Shock710 wrote:
Why is the last bit talking about SC1? SC1 teams have sponsers... i'm confused is it a typo?

SCI not SC1. That's ShoutCraft Invitational.
Playing better than standard requires deviation. This divergence usually results in sub-standard play.
Bojas
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2397 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-07 11:25:56
October 07 2012 11:25 GMT
#233
Edit: woops I am terribly sorry I was messing around with these codes and accidantly pressed enter. T.T
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