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Comparing Casters and Players is stupid

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Bigtony
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1606 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-02 02:42:04
May 02 2012 01:16 GMT
#1
This topic has come up before and probably will again (notably HuK and Slasher went at it on twitter - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=290205) , but today it came to the fore again with Cloud's vlog (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=333670) and earlier this week with Soe's Corner (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=333485). Once more, a player compares the "hard" life of a player to the "easy" life of casters. We get gems like:

"Casters make too much money."
"Players should make more."
"Day[9] is not a good caster."

This is not an attack on cloud, huk, or nemesis, as many people have said these things; these are simply the most prominent incidences I can think of/find.

The problem with these kinds of statements is not that I think casters should be immune to criticism. Of course not. There are casters that are better than others, there are casters that are good, and there are casters that are not good. The problem is that comparing them to players doesn't make any sense. Casters need a completely different skillset because their job is very different. They aren't necessarily "practicing 10 hours a day" (but some do put in those kinds of hours) or "having to deal with the pressure of a tournament" but they have other duties. They are interpreting the game for a wide audience, entertaining, creating content, and doing all of that on the fly in a way that never betrays any emotion that would detract from the excitement of a tournament. Casting is taxing mentally and physically (every tried to talk for 2+ hours straight? it's rough).

To make an analogy - do the best baseball players write the best books about baseball? do the best spanish speakers make the best spanish teachers? does the smartest mathematician write the most exciting math books? In each case the answer is "not necessarily."

As an aside - if you're a player and you think you aren't being paid enough, that's an issue between you and your team (and your agent if you have one). What you are being paid has nothing to do with what casters make (not that you even have any idea how much a caster makes). Top tier casters work tirelessly to build a brand for themselves and are putting in just as much work as top tier players, it's just a different kind of work. For the most part, they have earned their way to the top.

Thanks for reading; I hope that makes sense.

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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10265 Posts
May 02 2012 02:31 GMT
#2
"Day9 is not a good caster" >implying hes not a good caster xD

Makes sense. Broadcasters are meant to broadcast. Players are meant to play. Let each side do their jobs and enjoy both.
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Mr.Ch4rms
Profile Joined August 2008
Canada84 Posts
May 02 2012 03:00 GMT
#3
apples and oranges. both have vitamin C right? so we must be able to compare the two and say which is better.
thats it stroke me clover
Bigtony
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1606 Posts
May 02 2012 03:01 GMT
#4
On May 02 2012 12:00 Mr.Ch4rms wrote:
apples and oranges. both have vitamin C right? so we must be able to compare the two and say which is better.


haha very clever!
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3FFA
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States3931 Posts
May 02 2012 03:04 GMT
#5
On May 02 2012 12:01 Bigtony wrote:
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On May 02 2012 12:00 Mr.Ch4rms wrote:
apples and oranges. both have vitamin C right? so we must be able to compare the two and say which is better.


haha very clever!

I'm gonna steal that and use it on a teacher
"As long as it comes from a pure place and from a honest place, you know, you can write whatever you want."
OptimusYale
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)1005 Posts
May 02 2012 03:16 GMT
#6
Talking about things like this is a natural progression when something is broadcasted to the public.

Soccer: Messi is better than ROnaldo (vice versa)
Football: Tebo is the worst quater back in the league
Baseball is worse than cricket

comparing similar things is part of human nature...also juicy oranges destroy apples
run.at.me
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia550 Posts
May 02 2012 03:36 GMT
#7
Different professions in the same industry, players need to stop bitching
Bigtony
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1606 Posts
May 02 2012 04:27 GMT
#8
On May 02 2012 12:16 OptimusYale wrote:
Talking about things like this is a natural progression when something is broadcasted to the public.

Soccer: Messi is better than ROnaldo (vice versa)
Football: Tebo is the worst quater back in the league
Baseball is worse than cricket

comparing similar things is part of human nature...also juicy oranges destroy apples


It's one thing to say "Tebow is worse than Sanchez" or Messi is better than Ronaldo." It's different to say that the coach is overpaid because the quarterback makes less money. It's a completely different job that you simply cannot make an adequate comparison.
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