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Just pick the goddamn race!

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DW-Unrec
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
492 Posts
March 11 2012 05:17 GMT
#1
Have you ever had a bad time picking a race?

Well, let me tell you my story:

I have a group of practice friends, we're like one step before the formation of our own team. The thing is, one of my mates was like one step closer to getting paid to play on a local SC2 team. But then he started QQing that he cannot pick a race, he got bad, then got demoted to "rank B", which means got further away to getting paid to play. And now I have this too, can't pick a race. I gotta think that's contagious, so wear a mask while you read this.

He was top 1 masters Terran player, now he is rank 60 masters, and can't pick P or Z.
I was like mid masters zerg, now I'm almost getting demoted to diamond, and can't choose between Z or P.

I tried things like "I'm not playing toss because I know more about the game as a zerg, and zerg is overused, 70% of the players in tournaments are zergs."
but on the other side, I watch a replay of MC using air units in PvZ, that makes me wanna play as protoss so hard, but I don't know things like CB, building timings, and my knowledge of the PvT matchup is almost null.


So, what would you do?




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TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
March 11 2012 05:27 GMT
#2
If it is that hard to decide, then just pick random or just roll a dice to decide for you. Once you pick one though, stick with it for awhile. Don't let outside forces dictate, which race is your favorite to actually play, that is all that matters.
We think too much and feel too little. More than machinery, we need humanity. More than cleverness, we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost. -Charlie Chaplin
Hoon
Profile Joined December 2010
Brazil891 Posts
March 11 2012 05:30 GMT
#3
Play the race you like the most.
Playing a race just because you see a pro doing something cool never works out, since you probably won't be able to do the same anytime soon and will get bored of the class before you actually get close to doing it.

I picked Zerg because I like how to race works, but my favorite players are Terrans, since they are the ones that manages to pull off amazing micro intensive stuff.
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DW-Unrec
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
492 Posts
March 11 2012 05:41 GMT
#4
Seriously, take a look at this shit. Rank 76 on masters division.


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[image loading]sorry about SOPAing the whole thing, I just want to remain anon.
RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
March 11 2012 05:46 GMT
#5
Think about what TLO has done, he consistently played Zerg and Terran up to a point and still made Grandmasters. What i'm saying here is that if you can't pick a race then you'd better spend ALOT of effort on all three races to stay on the top and have that chance to get paid to play.

Actually I have a question, if he couldn't pick a race, how did he make top masters and even get offered pay? I mean, he should stay at top masters 1 if he made it to the top by playing random races, no?

A good way to pick is attend userbased/local SC2 tournaments and play the race you win the most with.
Stick it up. take it up. step aside and see the world
DW-Unrec
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
492 Posts
March 11 2012 06:08 GMT
#6
On March 11 2012 14:46 RogerX wrote:
Think about what TLO has done, he consistently played Zerg and Terran up to a point and still made Grandmasters. What i'm saying here is that if you can't pick a race then you'd better spend ALOT of effort on all three races to stay on the top and have that chance to get paid to play.

Actually I have a question, if he couldn't pick a race, how did he make top masters and even get offered pay? I mean, he should stay at top masters 1 if he made it to the top by playing random races, no?

A good way to pick is attend userbased/local SC2 tournaments and play the race you win the most with.


Actually its not that hard to get top masters, its not like you have to play nesteas every match.

his answer to your question:

TLO switched to zerg while he was being paid to play as terran for TL.

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For me, I guess i'll just have to double the efforts till a pick one race.
andeh
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States904 Posts
March 11 2012 06:25 GMT
#7
Just pick the race with units you think are the coolest
RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
March 11 2012 06:26 GMT
#8
On March 11 2012 15:08 DW-Unrec wrote:
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On March 11 2012 14:46 RogerX wrote:
Think about what TLO has done, he consistently played Zerg and Terran up to a point and still made Grandmasters. What i'm saying here is that if you can't pick a race then you'd better spend ALOT of effort on all three races to stay on the top and have that chance to get paid to play.

Actually I have a question, if he couldn't pick a race, how did he make top masters and even get offered pay? I mean, he should stay at top masters 1 if he made it to the top by playing random races, no?

A good way to pick is attend userbased/local SC2 tournaments and play the race you win the most with.


Actually its not that hard to get top masters, its not like you have to play nesteas every match.

his answer to your question:

TLO switched to zerg while he was being paid to play as terran for TL.

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For me, I guess i'll just have to double the efforts till a pick one race.

Thats a good reply, and I can't disagree since I've been to mid + masters and pretty much got bored at that point lol.

How about trying out some micro map and checking out what race you enjoy microing the most?
Stick it up. take it up. step aside and see the world
Incze
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Romania2058 Posts
March 11 2012 07:15 GMT
#9
I learned a "trick" a while ago. Throw a coin and before the coin even lands you will know what it is that you want.
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Feiya
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany42 Posts
March 11 2012 08:44 GMT
#10
im playing terran as mid-high masters on EU and let me, as someone who offraces as P on my 2nd account on around high diamond, tell you one thing , if PvT is whats holding u back most, just play P. PvT is really easy to learn compared to PvZ or PvP imo :x
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9105 Posts
March 11 2012 09:01 GMT
#11
I'm having an identity crisis too. Way back in beta and first few months I was T. Then have been P for a long time. Recently (see today!) I've been playing Z using a friend's account who doesn't do 1v1 ladder. I was hoping his MMR would be lower... 3-10 right now, most of the wins are from my opponents cheesing which is the one thing I can beat apparently.
Misanthrope
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States924 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-11 09:25:13
March 11 2012 09:23 GMT
#12
Roll a 6-sided die. 1-2 is Terran, 3-4 is Protoss, 5-6 is Zerg. Stick with the result.


On March 11 2012 16:15 Incze wrote:
I learned a "trick" a while ago. Throw a coin and before the coin even lands you will know what it is that you want.


This applies to my suggestion.
Resolve to perform what you ought. Perform without fail what you resolve. - Benjamin Franklin
Snaiil
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden312 Posts
March 11 2012 10:06 GMT
#13
Same problem here. I play all three races right now and just can't decide which one I like the most, so I end up switching between them all the time. Right now I'm Masters with P and T and Diamond with Z, sometimes I wonder how good I would be with one race if I had just stuck with it instead of playing hundreds and hundreds of games with the other two races as well. ._.
Vod.kaholic
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1052 Posts
March 11 2012 10:32 GMT
#14
Figure out how many favorable matchups you have playing as each race and go with the race that has the most favorable matchups for you. I considered switching from Protoss several times, but I realized I don't like playing zvp or zvz a lot, and my tvz is hit or miss, and I learned to put up with pvp, so I now decided to stick with Protoss. From playing Random I learned to appreciate matchups over race, and I decided most of my favorable matchups were as Protoss :p
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Murlox
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France1699 Posts
March 11 2012 10:34 GMT
#15
Both go Terran and enjoy the gold league ?!

I'm sorry, heading out now.
Resistance ain't futile
Aalo
Profile Joined February 2012
United States33 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-11 11:10:20
March 11 2012 11:05 GMT
#16
I had this same exact issue for seasons 1-4 before i finally decided on Zerg. I went about things a bit differently.

1 week i'd play nothing but Terran
Week 2 i'd play nothing but Protoss
Week 3 i'd play nothing but Zerg.

I'm a ladder addict, so within that 1 week span i played roughly 50 games (starting off in bronze, with 0 RTS experience) a week.

By the end of the first week I started playing Favored Silver, switch, lost a bunch, got back to Favored Silver, switched lost a bunch. This continued wit steady progress, usually by the end of the Zerg cycle I'd rank up to the next league. This continued into Platinum where i struggled for a while, as i began to learn more of the intricacies that is RTS gaming.

But my 3 races became stronger rather equally. My zerg always caught on faster than my P and T, in fact T is the hardest macro race for me, i feel like i'm playing wack-a-mole with my production in the late game.

By the end of season 1 I cracked Master's with this playstyle. Eventually (and it depends on what you particularly value) you'll either choose the race you're strongest at naturally (for me it's zerg) or you'll pick your favorite (for me it's Protoss). I don't like to lose, so naturally I stuck with my zerg, and offrace my Protoss a few hours a week on my friends account who never made it out of the hell that is high bronze-low silver.

TLDR; keep doing what you're doing eventually you'll reach a breaking point, to where you'll finally pick a race.
darkscream
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2310 Posts
March 11 2012 11:20 GMT
#17
Its pretty easy to choose really. Just think about what kind of playstyle you'd like to have. Are you aggressive? Cheesy? Passive? Do you have a good eye for the details, good scouting? Or are you a micro hero, with perfect unit control? Do you want to expand everywhere on the whole map, or do you never want to expand even once?

Answer these questions, and the race that fits you best will become clear, I think.
Deleted User 61629
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
1664 Posts
March 11 2012 11:44 GMT
#18
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Sophron
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia21 Posts
March 11 2012 14:51 GMT
#19
Pick the one you want to play.

I mean the one you actually want to play, not the one you think you should play because you want to be good. You'll get better if you switch, even if it takes a few weeks or a month. What you're actually doing is procrastinating switching because you don't want to get worse at the game.

Don't worry so much, play what you want. <3
This, too, shall pass.
Jedclark
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom903 Posts
March 11 2012 16:14 GMT
#20
Don't pick a race on your current skill level; you can always improve game knowledge and mechanics, but you can't improve the natural fun you have... if that makes sense.
"They make it so scrubnubs can PM me. They make it so I can't ignore scrubnubs!" - "I'm gonna show you how great I am." MKP fan since GSL Open Season 2 #hipsternerd
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