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Zarathustra and The Savage Reformed

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jdseemoreglass
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3773 Posts
November 10 2011 17:13 GMT
#1
The men of the past had an ideal called "liberty," which was just a knee jerk reaction to the oppressions of the past. Now we are enlightened enough to understand that freedom can have harmful effects. Science has proven that free speech is dangerous and harmful, we ought to be done with it completely. What good does it do society to allow people to walk around advocating fascism, or hatred towards gays, or revolution? No good at all, society should stamp it out.

There is no need for struggle or pain these days. One day we will have soma to eradicate it nearly completely. Face a difficulty in life, and you can take a soma holiday, and be free from the decidedly unnecessary discomfort. In the past coping was necessary, and bought at years of effort and difficult experience. Soon we will have a world where pain is extinct.

We seek the world where men are no longer capable of great action. Greatness is oppression, and immoderation. To the last men, moderation is godliness. Guns give individuals power. We shall abolish guns. Wealth gives individuals power. We shall abolish wealth. War is the epitome of a power struggle. We shall abolish it. Power will be outlawed, and there will be no one left to disturb your comfort or peace.

No rich and no poor, no sinner and no saint, no ruler or ruled. No shepard, and one herd.

Our virtues are comfort, safety, peace, and moderation. We seek the green pastures, where the herd can chew the cud, and there is no wolf in sheep's clothing. We will eradicate all wolves, and we shall call it "education."

Alas, man will no longer be capable of great action. Goals require too much exertion, we say. We shall focus all our efforts on reducing our efforts, and we shall call it "democracy."

To the last men, greatness is a good nights sleep. To the last men, great is he who discovers how to remove even a little more pain or suffering. Anyone who thinks otherwise will go voluntarily into the madhouse. And we shall call it "happiness."

Man will no longer be capable of despising himself. He will no longer be capable of asking, "What matters my happiness? What matters my contentment?"

We shall complete the journey begun by Moses so many centuries ago. We shall put up the final tablets of commandments, and the tablets will never again be broken. There is no longer any need for creators, or destroyers. Our truths are the eternal truths. Formerly, we say, all the world was insane. But we, we enlightened, we educated... We have invented happiness.



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"If you want this forum to be full of half-baked philosophy discussions between pompous faggots like yourself forever, stay the course captain vanilla" - FakeSteve[TPR], 2006
00Zarathustra
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bolivia419 Posts
November 10 2011 17:47 GMT
#2
I don't get it.
Zarathustra "You can't spell aNal_Rape without Nal_Ra"
plated.rawr
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Norway1676 Posts
November 10 2011 17:54 GMT
#3
He's mocking safety measures and socialized institions backed by the belief that full individual freedom would allow humanity to ascend to a greater level of society. By applying Zarathustra to his text, he's equating socialized society to the concept of 'lie', with liberalism as the 'truth'.

All in all, common demagougery polarizing the 'good' view against the 'bad', meant only to make fun of other ideologies and prove to himself and his followers the superiority of their own view without actually comparing them at all.
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jdseemoreglass
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3773 Posts
November 10 2011 18:05 GMT
#4
On November 11 2011 02:54 plated.rawr wrote:
He's mocking safety measures and socialized institions backed by the belief that full individual freedom would allow humanity to ascend to a greater level of society. By applying Zarathustra to his text, he's equating socialized society to the concept of 'lie', with liberalism as the 'truth'.

All in all, common demagougery polarizing the 'good' view against the 'bad', meant only to make fun of other ideologies and prove to himself and his followers the superiority of their own view without actually comparing them at all.

lol that's a pretty terrible analysis... But I guess it's common these days to dumb everything down to the level of partisan politics.

I was merely contrasting the modern man's philosophy with Nietzsche's Zarathustra and Huxley's Savage. I'm not sure why you are talking about ideologies or followers, because I have neither.
"If you want this forum to be full of half-baked philosophy discussions between pompous faggots like yourself forever, stay the course captain vanilla" - FakeSteve[TPR], 2006
inamorato
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States263 Posts
November 10 2011 18:05 GMT
#5
On November 11 2011 02:13 jdseemoreglass wrote:
. One day we will have soma to eradicate it nearly completely. Face a difficulty in life, and you can take a soma holiday, and be free from the decidedly unnecessary discomfort.


But we already have Soma my friend.
You're one microscopic cog in his catastrophic plan Designed and directed by his red right hand
MattBarry
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4006 Posts
November 10 2011 18:52 GMT
#6
At least cite Nietzsche if you're going to parrot his beliefs
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FryBender
Profile Joined January 2011
United States290 Posts
November 10 2011 19:00 GMT
#7
On November 11 2011 03:05 jdseemoreglass wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2011 02:54 plated.rawr wrote:
He's mocking safety measures and socialized institions backed by the belief that full individual freedom would allow humanity to ascend to a greater level of society. By applying Zarathustra to his text, he's equating socialized society to the concept of 'lie', with liberalism as the 'truth'.

All in all, common demagougery polarizing the 'good' view against the 'bad', meant only to make fun of other ideologies and prove to himself and his followers the superiority of their own view without actually comparing them at all.

lol that's a pretty terrible analysis... But I guess it's common these days to dumb everything down to the level of partisan politics.

I was merely contrasting the modern man's philosophy with Nietzsche's Zarathustra and Huxley's Savage. I'm not sure why you are talking about ideologies or followers, because I have neither.



I see absolutely no politics in his response to you. He's simply saying that your interpertation of Nietzschian philosophy that equates power with morality vs the Utopianism/Liberalism of John Stuart Mills that you seem to be condemning in your satirical post is an unfair comparison since you make no analysis of either but simply apply broad brushstroke generalization.
00Zarathustra
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bolivia419 Posts
November 10 2011 19:45 GMT
#8
On November 11 2011 04:00 FryBender wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2011 03:05 jdseemoreglass wrote:
On November 11 2011 02:54 plated.rawr wrote:
He's mocking safety measures and socialized institions backed by the belief that full individual freedom would allow humanity to ascend to a greater level of society. By applying Zarathustra to his text, he's equating socialized society to the concept of 'lie', with liberalism as the 'truth'.

All in all, common demagougery polarizing the 'good' view against the 'bad', meant only to make fun of other ideologies and prove to himself and his followers the superiority of their own view without actually comparing them at all.

lol that's a pretty terrible analysis... But I guess it's common these days to dumb everything down to the level of partisan politics.

I was merely contrasting the modern man's philosophy with Nietzsche's Zarathustra and Huxley's Savage. I'm not sure why you are talking about ideologies or followers, because I have neither.



I see absolutely no politics in his response to you. He's simply saying that your interpertation of Nietzschian philosophy that equates power with morality vs the Utopianism/Liberalism of John Stuart Mills that you seem to be condemning in your satirical post is an unfair comparison since you make no analysis of either but simply apply broad brushstroke generalization.



Thats why I "don't get it"
Zarathustra "You can't spell aNal_Rape without Nal_Ra"
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
November 10 2011 20:48 GMT
#9
If you're going to criticize something, you should at least make an attempt to address the content.

Meta-arguments are cute and all, but if that's all you do, it makes me think that that's all you've got.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-10 21:14:25
November 10 2011 21:13 GMT
#10
And you are still posting on a video game forum instead of conquering the world ?

;D
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
November 10 2011 23:13 GMT
#11
This made me lol.
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