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itsjustatank
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Hong Kong9157 Posts
August 12 2011 02:44 GMT
#1
After watching an Eddie Izzard comedy bit about the differences in pronunciation between American and British English, I noticed something.

One of his jokes was that he pronounces the 'h' in 'herb,' "because there is a fucking 'h' in it." I, however, being an American, have always pronounced the 'h' in 'herb,' without giving it much thought.

Is it because I'm from Southern California, and our version of American English is less riddled with regional aberrations in pronunciation? Or is it because I watched too much Monty Python as a small child?

If you are an American, it would be cool if you answered this small poll...

Poll: Do you pronounce the 'h' in 'herb'

No (40)
 
61%

Yes (18)
 
27%

Sometimes (8)
 
12%

66 total votes

Your vote: Do you pronounce the 'h' in 'herb'

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): Sometimes



Here's the Izzard video for reference:



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marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
August 12 2011 03:11 GMT
#2
Haha, I don't pronounce the H normally, but "because theres a fucking H in it" seems like a pretty good reason.
memes are a dish best served dank
pRo9aMeR
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
595 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-12 03:49:34
August 12 2011 03:12 GMT
#3
As an American and now an English teacher in Korea who has a knack for teaching and understanding pronunciation, I have to say that when I was younger, I did pronounce the 'h', but now that I'm older, I find myself not saying the 'h' most of the time. When I was young, my reasoning was the same as Izzard's - because there's a Fucking 'h', but now my reasoning is that most people say it like that and personally I think I'm just lazy and it's easier.

EDIT: I think this is the first time I've ever posted on my birthday! Happy Birthday to me!
edit2: spellingㅋㅋㅋ gj teacher ㅋㅋㅋ
In training...let's play, gg! d^..^b
lizzard_warish
Profile Joined June 2011
589 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-12 03:15:04
August 12 2011 03:14 GMT
#4
British people are barely intelligible to me to be honest [Canadian] but yes I say the h in herbs. If you want to look up real differences in how english people speak its more centerd around ae pronunciations than anything else.
Geovu
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Estonia1344 Posts
August 12 2011 03:16 GMT
#5
If it's a medicinal herb I don't pronounce 'h', if its just a plant (eg that fucking parsley the waiter puts on my otherwise edible dish) I do pronounce the h.

dunno why lol I just thought that's how you do it.
xarthaz
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1704 Posts
August 12 2011 03:18 GMT
#6
Few languages have purely pronunciation straight typing. English is not one of the finno ugric languages, so it doesnt share the luxuy.
Aah thats the stuff..
Z3kk
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4099 Posts
August 12 2011 03:18 GMT
#7
I'm American and I do not pronounce the h...just how I learned it o-o
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Iranon
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States983 Posts
August 12 2011 03:26 GMT
#8
American (Northeast). I pronounce the H only if it's a guy's first name, not if it's the edible plant. I can't recall anyone ever doing otherwise in my presence.
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17009 Posts
August 12 2011 03:48 GMT
#9
One of his jokes was that he pronounces the 'h' in 'herb,' "because there is a fucking 'h' in it."


I mean, I get the fact that it's a joke, but seriously, does he know what language he's speaking? Silent letters are a dime a dozen in English. If he made this joke in Russian or something, he might have more of a point :/
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Bibbit
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada5377 Posts
August 12 2011 03:53 GMT
#10
On August 12 2011 12:26 Iranon wrote:
American (Northeast). I pronounce the H only if it's a guy's first name, not if it's the edible plant. I can't recall anyone ever doing otherwise in my presence.


Good point, I had forgot it was also a name. But what do you do for(P)Herb?! We cant know if he was named after a person or a plant!
itsjustatank
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Hong Kong9157 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-12 03:57:10
August 12 2011 03:56 GMT
#11
On August 12 2011 12:48 Empyrean wrote:
Show nested quote +
One of his jokes was that he pronounces the 'h' in 'herb,' "because there is a fucking 'h' in it."


I mean, I get the fact that it's a joke, but seriously, does he know what language he's speaking? Silent letters are a dime a dozen in English. If he made this joke in Russian or something, he might have more of a point :/


Yeah, I think his tone is more of a I-speak-the-queen's-English-not-the-colonies one. It's a significant part of the humorous content of that bit, I think.

That being said, I think the "there's a fucking 'h' in it" viewpoint makes some sense. I'm pretty sure I developed into pronouncing the 'h' in 'herb' simply because of how I learned how to spell the word. No one has ever corrected me on that, and I've never really noticed it until now.

Edit: Oh and happy birthday pRo9aMeR!
Photographer"nosotros estamos backamos" - setsuko
pRo9aMeR
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
595 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-12 03:58:40
August 12 2011 03:57 GMT
#12
So by his same reasoning...I would like to hear his pronuncation of the following:
knife, knee, knight, know, pneumonia, psycho, gnome, gnat, mortgage, debt, hour, honest, mnemonic, ballet

Silent k, p, g, t, b, h, m

Thats what I thought about in about 2 minutes...

EDIT: itsjustatank THX!^^
In training...let's play, gg! d^..^b
Bibbit
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada5377 Posts
August 12 2011 04:05 GMT
#13
On August 12 2011 12:57 pRo9aMeR wrote:
So by his same reasoning...I would like to hear his pronuncation of the following:
knife, knee, knight, know, pneumonia, psycho, gnome, gnat, mortgage, debt, hour, honest, mnemonic, ballet

Silent k, p, g, t, b, h, m

Thats what I thought about in about 2 minutes...

EDIT: itsjustatank THX!^^


I had a friend from the Philippines who just would not get over the pronunciation of "leopard" when contrasted with "leotard." He wasn't very happy about it.

Also happy birthday from me too I suppose. :D
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
August 12 2011 04:14 GMT
#14
Trying pronouncing "hero" without the "h". There's an H man, so just pronounce it unless there is a weird rule to not do it.
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Dice17
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States520 Posts
August 12 2011 04:32 GMT
#15
I dont pronouce the "h" in herb but if someone is named herb you usually will always pronouce the "h". I have never seen anyone pronounce a name any other way
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Jinsho
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3101 Posts
August 12 2011 04:40 GMT
#16
It's not "urb". It's "hurb".
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
August 12 2011 05:08 GMT
#17
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/herb

hurb in Britain, urb elsewhere.

I actually always say hurb.
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