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Cheering for players? Or Cheering for Races?

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nvs.
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada3609 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-20 20:24:01
June 20 2011 20:22 GMT
#1
Note: I'm discussing Moon vs. Huk Dreamhack, but won't be spoiling any results.

So I'm watching the VODs of HuK vs. Moon right now (had to work this morning, missed the stream) and I started to feel my allegiances split as I watched and I was wondering if this happens to other people too sometimes.

Here's the dilemma. I'm a Zerg player, and love to see Zergs win (especially vs. P! ^^) but I also love HuK, with me being both a Canadian and a lover of his awesome personality. I went into VOD #1 100% behind HuK (even though he is the hated Protoss!). By VOD #3 however, I caught myself hoping that Moon (Representing the Swarm!) could pull out the game and was subconsciously cheering for all of his attacks, hoping they would break through.

I caught myself and was like "WTF why am I cheering against Huk? Is my allegiance to my race really that strong??"

So I thought I would post a blog about it asking who you cheer for when you watch SC2 games and why. Does anybody else feel this player vs. race split of allegiances? (Especially when the player you love happens to play a race you hate!! :D)

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ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
June 20 2011 20:27 GMT
#2
Risky topic mate.
HuK is TeamLiquid Canadian(w/e at least partially) and Protoss!
He is an easy choice for me.
I also find myself very inclined to cheer for protoss vs people like Jinro who i actually want to win.
I think this is just our instincts as honed destroyers.
We are used to wanting certain units to succeed in battles.
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
BenBuford
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Denmark307 Posts
June 20 2011 20:28 GMT
#3
Same thing. My loyalty is indeed as situational as yours, depending on race/person/matchup/manners (i usually like the BMs more) .
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Treemonkeys
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2082 Posts
June 20 2011 20:41 GMT
#4
I used to race cheer at closer to release but I've grown further and further from that, I think at the beginning it was just some feelings of desperation to see my race do well while being a noob to the whole scene. Now I'm at the point where I have players I love to watch win, regardless of race. I love watching Boxer win, just because he is so good mannered and professional, as well as his age and SC1 history. I love watching anyone from teamliquid win just because of how much I <3 this site, I want them to be successful. I love watching anyone win if they are using some new/innovative strategy. I also love watching idra lose despite him playing the same race as me because he is so BM and doesn't think people deserve to win.
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spoolinoveryou
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States503 Posts
June 20 2011 20:51 GMT
#5
I cheer for my favorite players.. Not for my race.

DON'T BE SUCH A RACIST MAN!
whats good?
anatem
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania1369 Posts
June 20 2011 20:52 GMT
#6
never cheered for a race, always for the players, MC has been my favorite player since open season 2.

race bias makes no sense to me, unless for when you're watching a match between players you are equally disinterested in.
'Tis with our Judgements as our Watches, none / Go just alike, yet each believes his own.
sLiniss
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States849 Posts
June 20 2011 21:11 GMT
#7
I cheer for my fav players. If it comes down to players I don't particularly favor, it is race. I love seeing a good zerg player win!
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Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
June 20 2011 21:11 GMT
#8
Zergs have a lot of racial pride in my experience, at least all the Zergs I know tend root heavily for other zergs. I never really see the same from the other races.
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
June 20 2011 21:16 GMT
#9
It really depends, personally almost all of my favourite players are Protosses. Really the only exception is IdrA, for whom I cheer for unless he is going up against some of my other favourites.
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Yung
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States727 Posts
June 20 2011 21:30 GMT
#10
While i cheer for zergs most of the time, if i really like a protoss or a terran i will cheer for them. And if its korean vs non korean i will be cheering for non korean no matter what. Foreigners all the ways man. Like I had to follow dreamhack on twitter and when i saw huk was the only Foreigner left in I so wanted him to win,
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I was jumping for joy when a Foreigner, even a toss Foreigner won.
Specialist
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States803 Posts
June 20 2011 21:30 GMT
#11
I cheer for better players.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
June 20 2011 21:33 GMT
#12
I cheer for the best players, but frankly from the ''foreigners''(This is such an odd word to use these days) I only support the Teamliquid people(Huk,Jinro, Ret etc) and Thorzain.

Race I don't really care, if its Idra its autoroot against Idra regardless of his race but if its July its autoroot for July. The more you get to know the players behind the races, the less you will care about the race they play and more about the player and his play itself.
WriterXiao8~~
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
June 20 2011 21:36 GMT
#13
It really depends. I do not follow the scene so closely to really know all players in the matches I watch.

But quite often, I find myself cheering for the underdog.(For some reason that I am not willing to discuss on this server, it's not often the Protoss.) I really can't imagine how could anyone not cheer for Thorzain in TSL3, regardless of the race. It was such a story! And MC played so well, but ....

Also sometimes I fall in love with someone's play after watching a single game. I have honestly never heard much of MMA before Columbus, but I fully understood the crowd shouting his name after the matches. His play was just so amazing!

On the other hand, where there is a lack anything else, I may be brought to side with the Protoss player, when I see him struggling with things I have problems with.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
June 20 2011 21:48 GMT
#14
depends. i'll generally cheer for protoss, but if they're against someone i like, then i won't. it's really that simple
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
Bibdy
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3481 Posts
June 20 2011 21:49 GMT
#15
It's pretty common in western society to cheer for the underdog. Although, if that just happens to be a Terran, I'll cheer for the other guy.
Kamais_Ookin
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada4218 Posts
June 20 2011 21:49 GMT
#16
I cheer for players, particularly top Korean players.
I <3 Plexa.
thOr6136
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Slovenia1775 Posts
June 20 2011 21:50 GMT
#17
I cheer for players all the time and i am zerg player I prefer watching ZvX tho. But i may root for other player like in huk vs moon i would root for huk.
Radical
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States481 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-20 21:55:48
June 20 2011 21:54 GMT
#18
Back when I was first getting into watching pro BW games, I would just root for Zerg every game because I wasn't familiar with any of the players. But as I got more familiar with it all, I started to get favorite players that I would root for regardless of race, and that's how it is with SC2 now as well. Though if it's a match between two players I've never heard of, I'll automatically root for the Z player if there is one. Otherwise I'll root for T. And if it's PvP I just throw my computer out the window.

Edit: also with BW there was proleague, so there was the team aspect as well, which for me was more important than race or player, unless it was yellow or reach.
Korinai
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada413 Posts
June 20 2011 22:33 GMT
#19
Most of the time I cheer for my race (zerg) but it also depends on whos playing. I will cheer for someone like Nada/MKP over a zerg player anyday.
"There is nothing more cool than being proud of the things that you love." - Day[9]
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
June 20 2011 22:41 GMT
#20
Based on the finals of DH alone, I'd say cheer for the player but I have to agree with Korinai. I almost always cheer for my race, even if it's against BoxeR or NaDa. Honestly I think there's just too much bile related to terran (as a Zerg player) to cheer for them.. Cheering for Huk was easier. He's on TL, he's a funny and charming player and he's very good. Moon has a history of all inning. So while (jeeze I'm rambling) most of the time I'd cheer for zerg, there are exceptions. Like if the zerg in question has a history of cheesy play or if I particularly like his opponent.
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CurLy[]
Profile Joined August 2010
United States759 Posts
June 20 2011 22:48 GMT
#21
I cheer for my race because I usually watch also with interest on picking up things for my own play. Therefore I want to see my race win, winning is fun yo
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seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9756 Posts
June 20 2011 23:00 GMT
#22
Always cheer for the team above everything else in team league, though cheering for an opposing player is fine if your team will win regardless ;D

In individual leagues cheer for players, duh, they're called individual leagues, not race leagues XP
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Profile Joined October 2010
United States217 Posts
June 20 2011 23:02 GMT
#23
Cheer for Race if its korean vs. korean or foreigner vs. foreigner and my race is involved, cheer for player otherwise

Cheer for player if it is korean vs. foreigner (almost always for the foreigner, with a couple exceptions)
djbhINDI
Profile Joined June 2011
United States372 Posts
June 20 2011 23:16 GMT
#24
For me it kinda depends on the player. I'll support Terran by default, Zerg over Toss (this because I hate the entirety of BW Protoss. I play at school w/my buds and there are like 15 methods of cheese exclusive to toss)

But certain players, like sAviOr or Jaedong, I will support even over T. I support FlaSh vs Jaedong, Jaedong vs most anyone else. The only Toss I support is Reach, the one I really hate is Stork.

It's kinda true about you wanting to see a certain unit winning - when I see siege tanks vs dragoons or hydras, I just feel good inside when their opponents explode into pools of multicolored blood. Like even if it's Jaedong or something, I kinda wouldn't mind if the vulture harrass killed a bunch of shit.
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Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
June 20 2011 23:39 GMT
#25
Depends, I will usually go Terran>Protoss>Zerg but I will cheer for say Nestea over Choya or DRG over say....Byun
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eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
June 21 2011 00:06 GMT
#26
Usually, I cheer for foreigners when they are fighting against Koreans. Since I play Random, I don't give a hollering hoot about race. I also cheer for stronger players playing against weaker players, since I always like witnessing the formation of a bonjwa.

Otherwise, I cheer based on my Liquidbet. It's quite an effective tool, especially when I know nothing about either player.
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darklordjac
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2231 Posts
June 21 2011 00:10 GMT
#27
Depends, if it's two players I know barely anything about then I will cheer for my race. On the other hand if I knew about both of the players I will pick my favourite out of the two and cheer for them, race doesn't matter.
zhurai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States5660 Posts
June 21 2011 00:15 GMT
#28
unless for some reason I get on a team, (which I'll root for anyone on my team...) otherwise.... Only Zergs.
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