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OverZero
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States271 Posts
January 23 2011 19:31 GMT
#1
Over the past 2 or 3 days I've played probably 4 or 5 PvZ's where I do the zealot wall with the pylon and gateway, but every time I've done it the zerg manages to run like twenty zerglings straight past my zealot. Is anyone else having this trouble or am I doing something wrong?
Thanks,
OverZero

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Backpack
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1776 Posts
January 23 2011 19:36 GMT
#2
You have to hit hold position with your zealot or else it will get pushed out of the way.
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Turo
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada333 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-23 19:38:18
January 23 2011 19:37 GMT
#3
My guess is that you didn't hold position your
Zlot. And the wall is actually better with cyber and gate fyi =]
green.at
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Austria1459 Posts
January 23 2011 19:39 GMT
#4
screenshot of how you wall in with your zealot selected!
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Deleted User 108965
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1096 Posts
January 23 2011 19:44 GMT
#5
yeah a replay would be nice, there are certain placements where the hole isn't actually a zealot wide but is a zealot and a half wide, so that might be the problem.
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xxpack09
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2160 Posts
January 23 2011 19:47 GMT
#6
Is this.... Starcraft 2?

Because if this is Brood War, you should remember that almost nothing is tight in brood war and I find it highly dubious that you can wall off a ramp with a pylon + gate + zealot
OverZero
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States271 Posts
January 23 2011 19:50 GMT
#7
heres a screen shot of one of the games:

[image loading]
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Deleted User 108965
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1096 Posts
January 23 2011 19:54 GMT
#8
On January 24 2011 04:50 OverZero wrote:
heres a screen shot of one of the games:

[image loading]


yes that space is actually more than a zealot wide, try moving your gate forward a square if you can, or making the wall with a cybercore and gate instead
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fabiano
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Brazil4644 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-23 19:56:04
January 23 2011 19:54 GMT
#9
Edt: Use hold position in the zealot and make it tighter, as poster above said.

A tip though: wall off with your gateway and cybercore instead of pylon, prevents baneling busts
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OverZero
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States271 Posts
January 23 2011 19:58 GMT
#10
Ah, I see. I appreciate the help guys!!! :D
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unit
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2621 Posts
January 23 2011 20:17 GMT
#11
On January 24 2011 04:54 fabiano wrote:
Edt: Use hold position in the zealot and make it tighter, as poster above said.

A tip though: wall off with your gateway and cybercore instead of pylon, prevents baneling busts

yea that baneling bust tip is incredibly useful, not that many zergs do those anymore but some will if they see the opportunity its one of those small things that makes you win those rare games when that happens
RandomAccount#49059
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2140 Posts
January 23 2011 20:43 GMT
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aztrorisk
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States896 Posts
January 23 2011 21:54 GMT
#13
HAHAHA, your opening is 2 spaces wide. Zealot only covers 1 space. You would need 2 zealots to cover that up. You could either move ur gateway one more space and then your stalker can't get through. However, when I play standard, I usually leave 2 spaces open and get 2 zealots. If your apm is good enough, if you see that they are bringing zerglings to ur base, you could build a pylon to take up another space and put ur zealot in that 1 space and have ur stalker shoot the zerglings.
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jacen
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Austria3644 Posts
January 23 2011 22:19 GMT
#14
On January 24 2011 06:54 aztrorisk wrote:
HAHAHA, your opening is 2 spaces wide. Zealot only covers 1 space. You would need 2 zealots to cover that up.

on the screenshot there is 1 (building grid) space open.
zealots can only cover 1 corner or 1/2 a grid space.
if 2 buildings connect on the corner of a grid space (like when you wall with gate and cyber) a zealot can hold.
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gabughraib
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany9 Posts
January 27 2011 02:18 GMT
#15
hello, i'm having the same problem but my wall was only 1 space (i positioned gateway and core at the front).

i don't know what i'm doing wrong, zerglings just passed. zealot was on hold position.


http://www.gamereplays.org/starcraft2/replays.php?game=33&show=details&id=184198#disc

please help!
OverZero
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States271 Posts
January 27 2011 03:07 GMT
#16
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=175013

Thats how they run by when theres one space.
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