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ondik
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Czech Republic2908 Posts
January 17 2011 19:58 GMT
#1
No, I'm not gonna complain about how I'm getting opponents way lower/higher ranked than myself. There's another thing that made me rage however - I played 18 games in a row against P or Z. 18 fucking games without a single terran opponent full of PvP which is currently almost as bad as BW ZvZ and PvZ which I just can't play. Now you may be thinking "well, that's just coincidence", well let's look at the odds of this "coincidence" happening - it's (aprox, let's say each race is played by 30 % of players) 0,0101 % WTF BNET? Did they just randomly chose me to make me hate the game? Well it sure seems so, because in these 18 games I also had 6 matches in a row against both P AND THEN 6 matches in a row against Z, odds of these streaks are 0,073 %.

Maybe Blizzard should just quit the gaming industry and start mass online roulettes? I'm pretty sure they would make lot of Martingalers go broke.

/rant

Bisu. The one and only. // Save the cheerreaver, save the world (of SC2)
Wolf
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)3290 Posts
January 17 2011 20:02 GMT
#2
Matchmaking attempts to give you a 50/50 winratio. That's why it puts you in matchups you don't like, because it knows you're worse at those. I'm not joking.
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andiCR
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2273 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-17 20:03:30
January 17 2011 20:02 GMT
#3
it's mmr, not mms.

Also, thats some fked up luck you got there I hate it when i get mass pvp's too.. and mass pvz's on blistering wtf

Edit: oh.. u meant match making system not match making ranking my bad
Nightmare1795 wrote: I played a guy in bronze who said he was Japanese. That was the only game I ever dropped a nuke, which was purely coincidental.
ondik
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Czech Republic2908 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-17 20:11:17
January 17 2011 20:04 GMT
#4
On January 18 2011 05:02 Wolf wrote:
Matchmaking attempts to give you a 50/50 winratio. That's why it puts you in matchups you don't like, because it knows you're worse at those. I'm not joking.


are you serious or just trolling me, because after this I'm gonna believe anything mms related.

edit: what's funny about it is that I came back to SC2 after 2 months break. Before the break I had win ratio against terran around 20 %, against protoss 70 % (good colossi build) and against zerg 60 % (shame on me for 4 gating). After few games and getting back to my previous perfomance level this changed as I somehow was rolling over every terran I played. And then I stopped playing them.
Bisu. The one and only. // Save the cheerreaver, save the world (of SC2)
Blisse
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada3710 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-17 20:36:05
January 17 2011 20:20 GMT
#5
Since you're rolling Terrans, why would you want it to place you against more Terrans. You can predict the result already, so you don't need to practice as much against them. Now it's letting you practice your other match ups more, so you can do to them what you do to Terran.

Calm down and play the game. Sometimes you flip a coin and get 5 heads in a row. Sometimes you don't.
There is no one like you in the universe.
WhiteLight
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada55 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-17 20:23:17
January 17 2011 20:20 GMT
#6
On January 18 2011 05:02 Wolf wrote:
Matchmaking attempts to give you a 50/50 winratio. That's why it puts you in matchups you don't like, because it knows you're worse at those. I'm not joking.


I seriously doubt thats true, im currently on a 16 game streak without facing a zerg (TvZ is by far my worse matchup as im 13-3 in those 16 games and im playing 2500 diamond players). If someone has a better explanation of not playing a specific race I would like to hear it.

Edit: what region are you in, I just assumed it wasn't giving me much zerg because NA has alot of protoss and fewer zerg (I dont know if that has changed in the past few months though)
Build order for girls: 8 Movie, 10 Dinner, 12 Lean in for the kiss, and if that fails get back in with some harassment. -Day9
BabyToss!
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Czech Republic588 Posts
January 17 2011 20:30 GMT
#7
I kinda don't agree with the statements it gives you matchup based on your results... I get rolled by Terrans lately and yet, most of my ladder games were against either T or P... my hopes for PvZ were unheard for quite long while, whenever I played ladder...
Nowadays a Filthy Casual | Follow your dreams |
green.at
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Austria1459 Posts
January 17 2011 20:39 GMT
#8
now i understand and it kinda makes sense too
getting PvP all the time since i decided to just dont bother about PvP anymore and just cheese/leave.
don't know when i played the last PvT on the ladder. i was focusing on PvZ because it was my worst MU.
Damn you mmr/mms!
Inputting special characters into chat should no longer cause the game to crash.
Zocat
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2229 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-17 20:44:45
January 17 2011 20:41 GMT
#9
On January 18 2011 04:58 ondik wrote:
(aprox, let's say each race is played by 30 % of players) 0,0101 % WTF BNET?


How many players / games are on bnet?
What's the chance of at least one person from this set having this kind of experience?
Just sucks for you to be one of those guys.

Szgk
Profile Joined May 2010
Poland112 Posts
January 17 2011 20:44 GMT
#10
Is it possible that you have voted down terran-favored maps?
sqrt
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1210 Posts
January 17 2011 20:46 GMT
#11
On January 18 2011 05:04 ondik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2011 05:02 Wolf wrote:
Matchmaking attempts to give you a 50/50 winratio. That's why it puts you in matchups you don't like, because it knows you're worse at those. I'm not joking.


are you serious or just trolling me, because after this I'm gonna believe anything mms related.

edit: what's funny about it is that I came back to SC2 after 2 months break. Before the break I had win ratio against terran around 20 %, against protoss 70 % (good colossi build) and against zerg 60 % (shame on me for 4 gating). After few games and getting back to my previous perfomance level this changed as I somehow was rolling over every terran I played. And then I stopped playing them.


If you are coming after a brake you should expect this. Seriously the level of play has increased and your abilities have stagnated it's normal.
@
TheNessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4158 Posts
January 17 2011 20:55 GMT
#12
Someone posted that he was playing too much ZvZ, then he changed his prefered maps, and now almost never gets the matchup. This makes sense, think about it, all the other protosses and zergs have the same maps picked. Change your preferred maps and you'll get matched with the T race, on their maps of course.
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ondik
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Czech Republic2908 Posts
January 17 2011 21:09 GMT
#13
On January 18 2011 05:20 Blisse wrote:
Since you're rolling Terrans, why would you want it to place you against more Terrans. You can predict the result already, so you don't need to practice as much against them. Now it's letting you practice your other match ups more, so you can do to them what you do to Terran.


Because I just want to have fun. I don't care whether I need to improve in any of my MUs and I CERTAINLY don't want BNET to make the decission for me. If I'm significantly better (have higher MMR) in one MU than another, then BNET should just naturally match me with a T who has the same MMR, isn't that obvious? By the way, following this logic, if I lost on purpose every game against T would BNET keep on matching me with terrans till the end of world?

Sometimes you flip a coin and get 5 heads in a row. Sometimes you don't.

yea.. or 18 heads in a row

On January 18 2011 05:20 WhiteLight wrote:
Edit: what region are you in, I just assumed it wasn't giving me much zerg because NA has alot of protoss and fewer zerg (I dont know if that has changed in the past few months though)


europe, 23XX-24XX diamond, I believe there's no terran shortage

On January 18 2011 05:44 Szgk wrote:
Is it possible that you have voted down terran-favored maps?


only map i've ever voted down is shakuras
Bisu. The one and only. // Save the cheerreaver, save the world (of SC2)
palanq
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States761 Posts
January 17 2011 21:10 GMT
#14
you're underestimating the probability here
a more reasonable thing to calculate is the odds of any person getting a streak of X or more games on ladder without any opponents of any particular race
the odds of this are much much higher
time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana
forgotten0ne
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States951 Posts
January 17 2011 21:12 GMT
#15
Yeah! A lot of my texts have been getting delayed, it sucks!

wait, what?
"Well it’s obvious that these Terran gamers are just extremely gifted when it comes to RTS games" -Ret, in regards to the first months of SC2
Nyx
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Rwanda460 Posts
January 17 2011 21:25 GMT
#16
On January 18 2011 06:12 forgotten0ne wrote:
Yeah! A lot of my texts have been getting delayed, it sucks!

wait, what?


Yeah sometimes I send somebody a picture then a few minutes later call them like, have you got it, and they're like, no, I'm like wtf.

Fucking battle.net
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
January 17 2011 21:39 GMT
#17
I must say this makes practice on ladder a lot harder. The fact that it doesnt let you choose opponents race makes it so that you can't play a specific matchup (lets say in preparation for a bo1...like in CSL)

I havent had that much bad luck though and its been pretty balalanced.
Jaedong :3
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