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FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-13 06:32:14
September 13 2010 06:29 GMT
#1
I just spent 10 minutes looking at my match history. Here are my last 33 games.

In order from most recent to oldest...

1. T
2. T
3. T
4. T
5. P
6. P
7. T
8. P
9. T
10. P
11. T
12. P
13. T
14. T
15. T
16. P
17. T
18. T
19. T
20. T
21. P
22. P
23. T
24. T
25. T
26. P
27. T
28. P
29. P
30. T
31. T
32. T
33. P
34. Z

Twenty-one T, Twelve P. Don't get me wrong, ZvZ is my least favorite matchup, but I wouldn't mind playing it SOMETIME just to get practice! Just really annoyed lately at the sheer amount of Terrans in a row I'm facing. If you don't believe me and want to look up my statistics I'm FabIntegral.581 on ladder. I started playing T in 2v2 for this reason as they are broken there. =/.

PS. I feel 34 is a sufficiently large sample size. Maybe I'm an outlier, I'm just tired of it!

PSS. Not saying anything about balance, I'm playing fine atm vs P and T.

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KinosJourney2
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden1811 Posts
September 13 2010 06:32 GMT
#2
I'm considering starting to play Protoss cause i really hate playing TvT and pretty much everyone plays Terran

Hope Blizzard buffs Zerg so we have less Terrans.
ocho wrote: EDIT: NEVERMIND, THIS THING HAS APM TECHNOLOGY OMG
Icx
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Belgium853 Posts
September 13 2010 06:33 GMT
#3
Haha, ye I know the feeling.

I can go for complete playing sessions without ever seeing a ZvZ at all.

I guess on average, let's say every 10 games it's: 5T 4P 1Z for me.

And yes ZvZ is also my weakest MU since I almost barely get to play it ^^
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11567 Posts
September 13 2010 06:39 GMT
#4
I play far more P than T at my level T_T

I hate PvP so much

SO FUCKING MUCH
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frogmelter
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States971 Posts
September 13 2010 06:41 GMT
#5
I really hate TvP

Can't beat the FE build for the life of me

Single reason I'm considered to go to P
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Entropic
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2837 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-13 07:35:56
September 13 2010 06:44 GMT
#6
EDIT: I get owned (I know nil about statistics), read below.

^_^
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4203 Posts
September 13 2010 06:48 GMT
#7
Wow must be something wrong with your matchmaking system. How the hell do you rarely get TVT?
petered
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1817 Posts
September 13 2010 06:51 GMT
#8
34 is not a sufficiently large sample size for what? he didn't make any conclusions or inferences from the data, just talked about how rarely he has seen zerg.

Also, in many statistical tests, 34 is actually plenty, considering the nature of the test being done. In other words, if your null hypothesis was that there are equal amounts of zerg, terran, and protoss players versus the alternative hypothesis of there being less zerg than t or p (which we already know to be true from large amounts of data) then I am quite confident you would reject the null in favor of the alternative based on the 34 games, although i didn't take the time to go through it myself.

I am just tired of people saying that there "isn't a sufficiently large sample size" and then feeling smart because they remembered one line from their statistics class, even though that has no relevance to the discussion. It really makes you look foolish.
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Altar
Profile Joined May 2008
United States577 Posts
September 13 2010 07:02 GMT
#9
Seems like all i got today was zvz and i lost them all because i have no idea how to zvz. Consider yourself lucky.
Heavens to Betsy
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
September 13 2010 07:03 GMT
#10
The chances of getting no zergs 33 times in a row, assuming equal probability of facing each race (which is inaccurate, but let's assume this for simplicity's sake) is the probability of facing a T or P 33 times in a row, so that's (2/3)^33 right?

That's a pretty small chance ><
ShoeFactory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States186 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-13 07:04:18
September 13 2010 07:03 GMT
#11
/agree with petered.

34 is a huge fucking sample size.

The odds of this happening is extremely low even given the current race distribution.
Fly[DCT]
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada38 Posts
September 13 2010 07:09 GMT
#12
It is obviously a large enough sample.


Let the null hypothesis be that you meet Zerg more than 1/3 of the time
Let the alternative be that you meet Zerg less than 1/3 of the time

It's pretty simple to see that:


+ Show Spoiler +
> dbinom(1,34,0.33)
[1] 2.043908e-05
> dbinom(0,34,0.33)
[1] 1.220515e-06
> 2.043908e-05 + 1.220515e-06
[1] 2.165960e-05


the p-value is 2.165960e-05 so we would reject null... under almost any reasonable levels.

We can also do an estimate of Z vs other races ratio and compute the variance of the estimator. It's 3AM right now though so I will cut myself some slack. Maybe tomorrow :3
lalalalala
Elegy
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States1629 Posts
September 13 2010 07:11 GMT
#13
I'm in the same boat. ZvZ is my worst MU but some of that is because, outside of customs, it's easily the rarest matchup. Of course there are times when I get it 3-4 times in a row, but...

Tons of P and T (I don't really mind as I find those matchups more interesting and dynamic, however).
Karliath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2214 Posts
September 13 2010 07:13 GMT
#14
Haha this is kind of good for a learning player like me, as I can focus on learning only two matchups for now. Of course, it's bad for the long run though.
Bash
Profile Joined August 2007
Finland1533 Posts
September 13 2010 07:18 GMT
#15
It's pretty clear the matchmaking isn't random, I would like to hear Blizzard's reasoning on why they decided this would be a good idea or whether they think it's working as intended or not. For the purpose of the thread I went ahead and did the same thing as the OP, and got similarly idiotic results.

1. T
2. T
3. Z
4. Z
5. T
6. P
7. P
8. P
9. P
10. P
11. P
12. P
13. P
14. P
15. T
16. T
17. P
18. P
19. T
20. P
21. Z
22. P
23. P
24. P
25. P
26. Z
27. T
28. P
29. P
30. P
31. P
32. P
33. Z
34. T


21 protoss, 8 terrans and 5 zergs. I don't hate PvP as a matchup but holy hell has Bnet2.0 spoiled it for me. Basically any other matchup and I probably wouldn't mind too much, but mirrors get boring much quicker than the other matchups... I'm really turned off the ladder as a whole because I know it'll queue me up yet another mirror.
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Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
September 13 2010 07:32 GMT
#16
i play about 7/10 Terrans, the rest 3 is sometimes all Z sometimes all P, rarely mixed
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
September 13 2010 07:40 GMT
#17
Yesterday i played like 5 ZvZ's in a row, i was sad =(
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Polar_Nada
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States1548 Posts
September 13 2010 07:43 GMT
#18
lol just play shoey!
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Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-13 07:46:41
September 13 2010 07:45 GMT
#19
Out of my 200 games I've only played against about 5 random people total. That probably has to do with there being so few random players, especially at the higher ranks of diamond haha . My games that I have recorded were:
+ Show Spoiler +
p
z
t
t
t
t
p
p
p
z
p
t
t
t
z
t
p
p
p
z
p
t
p
p
p
p
z
p
z
t
t
t
p
p
t
p
p
p
p
t
z
t
p
t
p
z
t
z
t
t
p

Thats:
23 Protoss
18 Terran
7 Zerg

Some of those might have been random, I only see the race they end up getting though.

I think there's so many Protoss because I feel like I'm at the point where 4 gate suddenly stops being so successful and the Protoss who are doing it are hitting a peak.

Note: I play random
ShoeFactory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States186 Posts
September 13 2010 07:53 GMT
#20
On September 13 2010 16:43 Polar_Nada wrote:
lol just play shoey!


im goign to try to play some T offrace. I need a break from Z.

gimme some reps polar lol

I'm going to make it even MORE unlikely that he gets zvz matchups
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