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FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
September 13 2010 08:34 GMT
#21
On September 13 2010 16:43 Polar_Nada wrote:
lol just play shoey!


We played a custom today.. but I was referencing 1v1 ladder only!
seanisgrand
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1039 Posts
September 13 2010 10:25 GMT
#22
I don't know if the MM system is truly random or not but it makes you really question the system and the map pool when you get 4 straight PvP's on Blistering Sands.
This is well below quality expected of a post in any forum. -Empyrean
EquilasH
Profile Joined April 2009
Denmark2142 Posts
September 13 2010 11:44 GMT
#23
In my first 23 games, I played around 16 terran, 5 protoss and 1 zerg.
wat
NukeTheBunnys
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1004 Posts
September 13 2010 14:30 GMT
#24
Some peoples understanding of random seems to be quite lacking. If there was an even distribution of races (1/3) each then yes, over a large enough sample size(more then once person) it would balance out to getting about 1/3 of each race. The races are not evenly distributed, it is skewed to protoss, terran, then last zerg. Random does not mean you will get an even distribution of the races, it means you will get a random distribution. Flip a fair coin 100 times you will prob get around 50 heads. Get over a million people flipping coins 100 times, its almost certian that some of them will be 75+% heads.

tl;dr People think a random distribution is an even distribution, when in reality it doesn't have to be anything of the kind
When you play the game of drones you win or you die.
MinoMino
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway1103 Posts
September 13 2010 15:48 GMT
#25
Some statistics to help with the calculations (from sc2ranks.com):

Global race distribution:

Random: 8.05%
Protoss: 36.03%
Terran: 36.78%
Zerg: 19.14%

Not many Zerg D:
Blah.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25989 Posts
September 13 2010 15:58 GMT
#26
I play random, and it seems like I only get Z when it's ZvZ. It's so upsetting because I love playing ZvT and ZvP
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arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
September 13 2010 16:12 GMT
#27
Didnt blizz say less than 20% of total SC2 players play zerg?

seems reasonable to me
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FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
September 13 2010 16:30 GMT
#28
On September 13 2010 23:30 NukeTheBunnys wrote:
Some peoples understanding of random seems to be quite lacking. If there was an even distribution of races (1/3) each then yes, over a large enough sample size(more then once person) it would balance out to getting about 1/3 of each race. The races are not evenly distributed, it is skewed to protoss, terran, then last zerg. Random does not mean you will get an even distribution of the races, it means you will get a random distribution. Flip a fair coin 100 times you will prob get around 50 heads. Get over a million people flipping coins 100 times, its almost certian that some of them will be 75+% heads.

tl;dr People think a random distribution is an even distribution, when in reality it doesn't have to be anything of the kind


I don't think anyone has the misconceptions that you have. I already stated I would qualify as an outlier. I am also aware Zerg is seen the least. However, I'm blogging about my most recent SC2 experience and the utter lack of Zergs I've seen to encounter as I've progressed up to the ladder. If you look in almost any division, there are less and less Zerg the higher up you go. I was just talking about how I'm frustrated I personally haven't encountered any Zerg and that it's very statistically unlikely something like this is going to happen.

Yeah, it's going to happen to some people, but that's hardly an excuse for everything. People reject null hypotheses with a margin of error of ~5% depending on what they're studying. My p value would be quite below .05.
Cedstick
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada3336 Posts
September 13 2010 17:42 GMT
#29
Match-making isn't random. The system always pits me against three Diamond players when I'm doing well. I will always win against the Z and P, but the third Diamond match is always TvT, and I always fail, and stay stuck in Platinum It knows your game better than you know it.
"What does Rivington do when he's not commentating?" "Drool." ~ Categorist
Pure.Calm
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom196 Posts
September 13 2010 18:03 GMT
#30
Lol i changed to t from p to avoid all the pvp's =P matchmaking system is good though
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
September 13 2010 18:06 GMT
#31
On September 14 2010 00:58 Chill wrote:
I play random, and it seems like I only get Z when it's ZvZ. It's so upsetting because I love playing ZvT and ZvP


Don't get me wrong, I definitely prefer ZvT and ZvP both over ZvZ. It's just my ZvZ is so terrible atm, I feel like I personally am an outlier (although I think Z is def more rare overall) and whenever I do get matched up against a Z I'm gonna get rolled.

Btw that 34th match vs a Z was a loss =[
GreatFall
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1061 Posts
September 13 2010 22:13 GMT
#32
I have the same thing happen to me. Log on, play a ton of Terrans in a row, log off upset LOL.
Inventor of the 'Burning Tide' technique to quickly getting Outmatched Crusher achivement :D
TekKpriest
Profile Joined March 2010
308 Posts
September 14 2010 01:01 GMT
#33
well i play on eu, but i rarely get a ZvT.

My most played and my worst matchup is ZvZ.. followed by RvMirror and ZvP
A Man chooses, a slave obeys
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
September 14 2010 01:16 GMT
#34
On September 14 2010 00:58 Chill wrote:
I play random, and it seems like I only get Z when it's ZvZ. It's so upsetting because I love playing ZvT and ZvP

Better than getting P in PvP, T in TvT and Z in ZvZ. and the occasional PvZ. I DIDNT PLAY THE OTHER MUS AS RANDOM YET!!!!!!!!!!!! damn my random luck -_-
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
MisoSowee
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-14 01:45:21
September 14 2010 01:44 GMT
#35
Agh I understand the feeling here in gold xD
For me it's usually PPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP
all of them 4 gates get really tiring really fast.

I am learning to defend against it better though. Spine crawlers are great :D
skindzer
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
Chile5114 Posts
September 14 2010 02:23 GMT
#36
Meh, just got 10 zvz in the last 15 games ANd like 6 in a row. I wanted to kill myself.
Its not only the rain that brings the thunder
ilbh
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil1606 Posts
September 14 2010 04:46 GMT
#37
you won't believe, but mostly of my matches are against zergs.
I even made a post in the bug report forums because I was only getting zergs. I got 10 zvz in a row once, and every then and now I get like 5 or 6 zvz in a row. that is retarded.
Part of the inhumanity of the computer is that, once it is competently programmed and working smoothly, it is completely honest.
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
September 14 2010 05:33 GMT
#38
Odd how that shit happens for some ppl and not for others.
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
September 14 2010 08:19 GMT
#39
On September 14 2010 00:58 Chill wrote:
I play random, and it seems like I only get Z when it's ZvZ. It's so upsetting because I love playing ZvT and ZvP


Me too! I played against 6 zergs in my last 10 games, and guess what? 5 of them were ZvZs! God I hate that matchup so much. I'm considering just 6 pooling every time I play it now
JudoChopper
Profile Joined August 2010
England148 Posts
September 14 2010 18:13 GMT
#40
Doesn't it also have to do with what maps you have veto'd
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