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cloudJR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States266 Posts
April 20 2010 18:12 GMT
#1
Is anyone aware if Blizzard is planning on leaving the ability to see every map during multiplayer game play on the official release of SC2? I've been curious about this for quite some time. For me personally it wasn't so much my micro/macro that hurts me in game. It's my opponent picking a map I've never seen or rarely play that always ends up biting me in the ass. I'm sure others will agree that map knowledge/strategies are just as important as macro and micro collectively. I just don't want to see Blizzard cater to the casual player and turn into a huge complain fest much like MW2 is currently and has been pretty much every since it was released. This is a game that takes years to become truly successful at and personally I would like to see stay that way.

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All I can hear are thousands of children screaming imbalance.......
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
April 20 2010 18:18 GMT
#2
As far as I know, this feature hasn't bothered competitive players. I think it will stay in the game and it won't ever be an issue.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
April 20 2010 18:23 GMT
#3
I can't understand what you are saying in your post. Could you explain your problem a little more clearly for people like me who are not in the beta?
ShaperofDreams
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2492 Posts
April 20 2010 18:28 GMT
#4
I love this feature, just having a wall of black unless you can draw the map by hand is stupid in 2010
Bitches don't know about my overlord. FUCK OFF ALDARIS I HAVE ENOUGH PYLONS. My Balls are as smooth as Eggs.
3clipse
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada2555 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-20 18:32:24
April 20 2010 18:32 GMT
#5
On April 21 2010 03:23 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
I can't understand what you are saying in your post. Could you explain your problem a little more clearly for people like me who are not in the beta?


Fog of war is not completely black; you can see the entire map.

I don't think it's a huge detriment. If you're a remotely competitive player, you almost always knew the map you were playing on in bw quite well. If it's your first time with a map in sc2, I can see how the fundamentals of knowing where to scout his base is revealed to you quite overtly, but you're still at a significant disadvantage to a player who is more familiar with the map. It's pretty hard to find every expo and nuance and invent strategies on the fly (especially when things are so dark xD). I think this change is only significant for the casual community.
cloudJR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States266 Posts
April 20 2010 18:39 GMT
#6
On April 21 2010 03:23 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
I can't understand what you are saying in your post. Could you explain your problem a little more clearly for people like me who are not in the beta?


Basically what I'm asking is are they planning on leaving the map the way it is or blacking it out like it is in BW.
All I can hear are thousands of children screaming imbalance.......
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
April 20 2010 18:39 GMT
#7
Only 2 possible reasons why Blizzard is doing this:

1) The SC2 terrain is just that pretty.
2) They want to prevent people from making phallic images in the minimap with their scouting workers (or at least make them less obvious).
May the BeSt man win.
cloudJR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States266 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-20 18:56:38
April 20 2010 18:42 GMT
#8
I'm speechless Liquid`NonY and now Chill (had to edit it lol) posted on my thread lol. I guess I'm somewhat beside myself so far on this topic.
All I can hear are thousands of children screaming imbalance.......
Piy
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Scotland3152 Posts
April 20 2010 18:44 GMT
#9
It won't really be a problem, once you play a map 10 times you remember it pretty well anyway. It just makes it easier for casual players, no easier for competitive players.
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Kralic
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2628 Posts
April 20 2010 18:46 GMT
#10
I like it being revealed the way it is, it helps newer players dive into the maps without having to play through them a few times to get used to them. I know in SC1 before iccup and all that jazz I never really played on any other map but a couple of the ladder ones for 1v1ing just because I did not want to spend the time to go through all the maps and explore them.
Brood War forever!
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8182 Posts
April 20 2010 18:49 GMT
#11
I think it's fine. Best part about it is that it will make people less afraid to try new maps and HOPEFULLY the community wont want to just play python (or well SC2's equivalent) forever.
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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary26004 Posts
April 20 2010 18:52 GMT
#12
I like it better this way so I don't have to guess about scouting.
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cloudJR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States266 Posts
April 20 2010 18:54 GMT
#13
On April 21 2010 03:49 Ideas wrote:
I think it's fine. Best part about it is that it will make people less afraid to try new maps and HOPEFULLY the community wont want to just play python (or well SC2's equivalent) forever.


Haha or a map like BGH
All I can hear are thousands of children screaming imbalance.......
cloudJR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States266 Posts
April 20 2010 18:55 GMT
#14
Or maybe they can set it as an option pregame. I would appreciate something like that.
All I can hear are thousands of children screaming imbalance.......
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
April 20 2010 18:59 GMT
#15
This makes it easier for beginners to jump into the ladder, without having to worry about learning the layouts of new maps and such. I like it.
Axonn
Profile Joined April 2010
Croatia288 Posts
April 20 2010 19:04 GMT
#16
I don't think this is going to be a problem but yeah good idea to make it an option before the game starts, that may be useful to stop any complaints if there are going to be any what so ever.
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
April 20 2010 19:09 GMT
#17
I don't see any problems with it, and it definitely will help weaker players getting into the game.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Badjas
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Netherlands2038 Posts
April 20 2010 19:17 GMT
#18
It makes sense to have it visible. Starcraft is not about remembering the map by head and being able to click in the dark and be at most 5 tiles off from what you wanted to click. Being disadvantaged because you blindly clicked just at the wrong side of a cliff should not be part of the game.
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N3rV[Green]
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1935 Posts
April 20 2010 19:32 GMT
#19
I have yet to play sadly, so my opinion might be invalid, but I would love to see them return to the old fog of war, just because I like that system. Adds a degree of I dunno;...something to the game, seeing you slowly uncover more and more of the map. It also helps show very clearly where you have yet to check for something or things of that nature.

But ya, not game destroying or anything.
Never fear the darkness, Bran. The strongest trees are rooted in the dark places of the earth. Darkness will be your cloak, your shield, your mother's milk. Darkness will make you strong.
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
April 20 2010 19:40 GMT
#20
The current implementation is great. They will definitely not change it.
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